# A314 not working for me

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**Category:** A314 Insider's Club\
**Created:** [September 9, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285 "2009-09-09T01:08:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/1 "2009-09-09T01:08:37Z")

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Ok guys, so I am brand new user of pheros and this is the first time I ordered A314, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IO and IS. The initial two days I felt like this might be working but over the past two days I’ve used A314 in combination with IS (4 drops of A314 today and 2 drops yesterday) along with 1 spray of IS each day and things are exactly what they were before I started using this.

I don’t know what I am doing wrong, I apply the A314 exactly as asked, keep an inch away, let a drop form and apply. I put two drops on each side of the neck with my finger.

The smell stays for a little bit - but then it’s gone and I don’t see any difference in people’s reaction towards me.

This morning, I was in the packed new york city subway during morning rush hour, there were enormous number of commuters, men and women - I wasn’t dressed very well - just plain stuff - but I didn’t notice a single person make eye contact or anything like that. Same deal all day in office. Same thing coming back in the train.

I am so dissappointed in the past two days of experiments - how long is the smell supposed to last? What can I do to make it work? I am sooooooooo looking forward to have this work for me.

I have IO and Ammo - should try these along with A314? Should I experiment with different spots? Should I got to 5 drops or more. I’m 34, look younger and am very normal (above average) looking.

Please HELP!!

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/2 "2009-09-09T01:16:29Z")

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> [@floyd777](#):
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> Ok guys, so I am brand new user of pheros and this is the first time I ordered A314, Ammo, IO and IS. The initial two days I felt like this might be working but over the past two days I’ve used A314 in combination with IS (4 drops of A314 today and 2 drops yesterday) along with 1 spray of IS each day and things are exactly what they were before I started using this.
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> I don’t know what I am doing wrong, I apply the A314 exactly as asked, keep an inch away, let a drop form and apply. I put two drops on each side of the neck with my finger.
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> The smell stays for a little bit - but then it’s gone and I don’t see any difference in people’s reaction towards me.
> 
> This morning, I was in the packed new york city subway during morning rush hour, there were enormous number of commuters, men and women - I wasn’t dressed very well - just plain stuff - but I didn’t notice a single person make eye contact or anything like that. Same deal all day in office. Same thing coming back in the train.
> 
> I am so dissappointed in the past two days of experiments - how long is the smell supposed to last? What can I do to make it work? I am sooooooooo looking forward to have this work for me.
> 
> I have IO and Ammo - should try these along with A314? Should I experiment with different spots? Should I got to 5 drops or more. I’m 34, look younger and am very normal (above average) looking.
> 
> Please HELP!!

I can relate to your feelings of frustration. Today was the first day that I had anything happen that I felt I could directly relate to wearing A314. Because it is an oil base, A314 should last you at least 4 hours on your skin. If you have been using 4 drops its possible that you have overdosed. Try just the A314 for a few days at a smaller dose and you may find it works better. I’m 36 and I started with 1 drop for a few days and worked my way up to several but I think I may have been OD’ing. I’d suggest trying it at 2 for a few days and see what happens. Sometimes it takes people (especially people who know you) a bit more time to get used to the new phero signature.

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/3 "2009-09-09T01:30:29Z")

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Commuters aren’t your best test subjects, Floyd. Maybe it’s different where you are, but when I used [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) on the morning commute, I found that my unwitting test subjects had all the vitality and energy of a plastic doll in a shop window. Only Spaceland had any real success at rousing them out of their self-induced coma.

Try A314 alone. Maybe the combination of A314 and Shine doesn’t jive with your body chemistry.

At the office, are you actively interacting with other people, giving you chance to notice effects? Or are you alone much of the time? If people have known you for a long time, they have you pegged as a known quantity and it will take a while for them to notice a change in you.

How would you describe your body language, your posture? Are you being congruent with the signature that A314 radiates? If you wave your hands around expressively when you talk, try placing the A314 on your wrists.

Musk

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/4 "2009-09-09T02:29:24Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
>
> Commuters aren’t your best test subjects, Floyd. Maybe it’s different where you are, but when I used pheromones on the morning commute, I found that my unwitting test subjects had all the vitality and energy of a plastic doll in a shop window. Only Spaceland had any real success at rousing them out of their self-induced coma.
> 
> Try A314 alone. Maybe the combination of A314 and Shine doesn’t jive with your body chemistry.
> 
> At the office, are you actively interacting with other people, giving you chance to notice effects? Or are you alone much of the time? If people have known you for a long time, they have you pegged as a known quantity and it will take a while for them to notice a change in you.
> 
> How would you describe your body language, your posture? Are you being congruent with the signature that A314 radiates? If you wave your hands around expressively when you talk, try placing the A314 on your wrists.
> 
> Musk

Wow - this forum is the best - thanks both Muskcloud and Snoopyace.

Ok - now here’s my personality. I’m about 5 6, fairly decent looking, most days I dress smart and try to look professional. At office I am very expressive, I’m mostly walking around, co-ordinating meetings and even if I don’t, I am a very active participant. I’m east indian by descent (actually mixed race) and came to the US about 10 years ago but both my communication and presentation skills are much above average.

I sometimes get nervous and get stuck on a question someone may ask (I’m a project manager by profession) and at that time I kindda lose control and sink back in. I’ve a couple of extremely anal and nit picking superiors who I would really like to show my alpha signature and get them to be nicer to me (one is a lady, the other a guy). I usually never have problems with my peers or even people one or two levels above. I have been working at this company for about 10 months now.

I would say generally in office settings, I’m already somewhere between a normal office drone and an alpha male but I’m hoping to get A314 and other pheros give me a good boost.

Now for the personal stuff - I commute in crowded new york city subway which is full of women, I walk during lunch to crowded places and I live in an area of manhattan that is full of young single women. I’m single and would really like to start dating in the city again (I recently moved here and while relocating from across another part of the country, broke up with my ex-girlfriend).

So what I’m looking for in a personal sense is ability to get the eye contact and vibes from women, I am not very good at approaching women straight up but I get the confidence (with or without the pheros, I am sure I can easily do that). Once I strike a conversation with someone, I am usually pretty good at keeping them interested.

So looking both from social and professional stand point - I bought A314, IO, IS and Ammo and now I’m totally lost because I don’t know how to make it work.

I can start over from 2 drops of only A314 and put it in different places on my body to start with and work my way from there.

Do you also suggest getting Spaceland? I thought a combination of Ammo and A314 would be enough to be able to pick up the chicks I wanted to 😉

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/5 "2009-09-09T17:07:12Z")

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Wearing two drops today (put them on my neck this afternoon - absolutely no noticeable effects so far)

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/6 "2009-09-09T22:19:53Z")

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been 5 hours since applying A314 but no effect so far - what am I doing wrong ☹

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/7 "2009-09-10T04:16:19Z")

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I am so close to giving up but I keep telling myself - if so many people have had success, I can too. So I will try two drops tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Marc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@Marc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marc)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/8 "2009-09-10T04:25:55Z")

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Does wearing A314 make you feel any different?

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/9 "2009-09-10T05:01:39Z")

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Floyd, can I ask what you are expecting to see happen with A314? Most people who use it will tell you that it’s a very subtle product. More the sort of thing you notice a few weeks down the track.

My own experience has been like that. I wore two drops a day on workdays for about 3 weeks without noticing what I was used to as “Hits”. One night, sitting have a quiet beer at home, I started thinking about how smoothly things had been going at work lately. And then how smoothly things had been with my GF lately… and then realised the only thing that had changed during that time was me wearing A314.

I have seen clear hits from it - clear respect and people being deferential to me - but the more obvious ones have come when I have worn higher doses - like 4 or 5 drops. Even then, other people’s reactions haven’t been as obvious as when I’m wearing more social products.

A314 wouldn’t necessarily be my first choice if you are trying to attract female attention either. Not that it can’t do that, especially if you make the effort to engage girls in conversation, but if you want more re-assurance that these things do work, I’d recommend chatting to some girls wearing a more socially orientated product.

I see you have Instant openness - apply 4 or 5 shots of that before a party or social situation where you are interacting with women and see what happens 🙂

And as Snoop said above - a lot of people - again me included - see far clearer results around people we don’t know. Folks that you are around everyday have an idea of who you are and what you are like already. It would be nice if these things had THAT much influence - but then they’d be illegal 🙂

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**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/10 "2009-09-11T06:34:55Z")

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I wore my A314 today to class and felt like a god…  
the difference it made on my own psyche was amazing.  
you just have to look for it..  
i WOULD NOT have noticed in a subway ride commute thats for sure… but it really does make a difference…  
wore it to the bar again after class with a bunch of people i always go there with and there wasnt a HUGE difference except for my own feelings… which was enough

I say keep trying man, i felt way better with it there… even when i was alone

to the bar i wore 2 drops a314 and one spray IH… didnt notice any ‘honesty’ hits but this is my first night and i’m ready for more

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/11 "2009-09-11T17:38:33Z")

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yesterday I wore 2 drops of A314 and things just seemed to go smooth for me - gave me a lot of confidence - didn’t notice anything different from anyone but things did seem to flow very nicely.

Maybe that is what 314 is supposed to do.

I am so hoping that this whole 314 and other pheros is not a scam and does provide at least some value - I’ve yet to conclusively prove that - and I will keep trying to prove it either way till I still have any left in the bottles that I ordered.

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**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/12 "2009-09-11T18:06:36Z")

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Hey there,  
I just tried A314 for the first time… my first purchase.  
I felt fantastic  
It was very smooth and I just felt more confident than usual…  
felt like a king

A314 isnt really a phero that attracts so much as helps raise your status.  
I felt that pretty immediately with the confidence alone.

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/13 "2009-09-12T04:18:18Z")

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yea.. that’s what I’ve heard from a lot of people.. I feel given some tries it might work - hasn’t really worked well for me so far.

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/14 "2009-09-12T04:24:37Z")

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If anyone is still reading my experience, just wanted to add - I’ve Ammo, A314, IS and IO.

What are the best combinations that you have had with A314?

Are there any ones that I am missing? (maybe TUTH)

Any more advice on how to get the most out of these four products I have.

Thanks!!

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**Author:** ![KnowledgeIsPower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/knowledgeispower/32/1201_2.png) [@KnowledgeIsPower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KnowledgeIsPower)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/15 "2009-09-12T12:17:35Z")

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> [@lethalchead](#):
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> I wore my A314 today to class and felt like a god…  
> the difference it made on my own psyche was amazing.  
> you just have to look for it..  
> i WOULD NOT have noticed in a subway ride commute thats for sure… but it really does make a difference…  
> wore it to the bar again after class with a bunch of people i always go there with and there wasnt a HUGE difference except for my own feelings… which was enough
> 
> I say keep trying man, i felt way better with it there… even when i was alone
> 
> to the bar i wore 2 drops a314 and one spray IH… didnt notice any ‘honesty’ hits but this is my first night and i’m ready for more

Lethal, quick question. What amount do you usually wear to class? 1 drop or 2 drops?

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**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/16 "2009-09-12T17:17:09Z")

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floyd, maybe your looking for the wrong things. what do you want? you need to learn to just make friends first, and if your using ammo, your trying to do something else. also, pheros arent gods in a bottle.. fairys maybe, but not gods; they’ll do some of the work, but if you need a haircut, beard shave, practice with better posture, the ability to smile,etc you need to have those too! You don’t just wear the phero and nature bends to your will… you still have to do your part in the interaction… and usually, \*\*you’ll get back what you give out! \*\*_Pheros make life easier,but they don’t make life itself;doing all the work._

**Good luck! 🙂**

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**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/17 "2009-09-12T17:20:44Z")

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Oh… and one more thing. 🙂

If you still think that this might be a scam, then you’re ignoring reality. 14,000 people don’'t get on here with a good audience of about 200 posters a day because pherotalk has enough money to pay them all to do so.

Re read my last post over and over again, until something clicks with you, and your inspired to go out there and do more. Pheros are NATURAL, and they ARE doing their job. The problem then, isnt the community that knows they work, or the pheros themselves, the problem is your approach to them. Do YOUR PART!!! And then see if they don’t work 🙂

You can always ask for your money back, too.

Best of luck to ya.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/18 "2009-09-12T18:25:34Z")

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> [@KnowledgeIsPower](#):
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> Lethal, quick question. What amount do you usually wear to class? 1 drop or 2 drops?

It was my first time wearing it and I wore 1 drop, I’m going to bump it to 2 but maybe not to class.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/19 "2009-09-12T18:27:02Z")

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> [@Michael721](#):
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> floyd, maybe your looking for the wrong things. what do you want? you need to learn to just make friends first, and if your using ammo, your trying to do something else. also, pheros arent gods in a bottle.. fairys maybe, but not gods; they’ll do some of the work, but if you need a haircut, beard shave, practice with better posture, the ability to smile,etc you need to have those too! You don’t just wear the phero and nature bends to your will… you still have to do your part in the interaction… and usually, \*\*you’ll get back what you give out! \*\*_Pheros make life easier,but they don’t make life itself;doing all the work._
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> **Good luck! 🙂**

Well put!!!

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**Author:** ![floyd777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ebca7d/32.png) [@floyd777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floyd777)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-not-working-for-me/32285/20 "2009-09-13T02:27:00Z")

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Thanks - sorry didn’t mean to give off the impression that I want the pheros to do everything for me. I do make an effort and I don’t expect pheros to do everything for me - I am just looking for that extra push - and I feel like I am not able to notice it. Of course I don’t expect that I wear pheros and everyone does everything for me.

The thing is this is the first time so I am trying to test it and see if things work for me. I feel sometimes that things do seem smoother with A314 and I get some people look at me and approach me with Ammo and A314 combination.

I just want to make sure this thing works for me - I’m pretty sure that it works for a lot of the people here.

Well – anyways – I’m going to make more of an attempt. Today I wore 2 drops of 314 on my jaw line and 2 drops of Ammo - didn’t see that much difference except that I felt more confident myself and was able to do more things that I usually don’t.

Do you guys know how long 314 lasts?

Also, is a combination of 2 drops of A314 with 2 drops of Ammo a good mix for women?

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