# A314 on its own towards women **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [January 31, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-its-own-towards-women/8788 "2008-01-31T22:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GoldenForest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@GoldenForest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenForest)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-its-own-towards-women/8788/1 "2008-01-31T22:14:36Z")
Anyone notice certain effects? It seems to create kind of a celebrity aura around you, very confident girls still maintain things like eye contact and may even talk to you but they are noticeably reserved. Shy girls get really nervous and can’t maintain eye contact at all, they almost always look at you and then down (IoI and also of submission to you but not always) and in all cases, they seem to set their pace as taking it kind of slow, looking for opportunities to sneak kino or excuses to touch you rather then just doing it when they feel attraction. Another interesting thing I’ve noticed is that it will really ignite sparks between the more beta males and beta females in the group to the point where I almost have to interfere to maintain my status over the other male, it must give them an aura of being part of the in crowd since I hang out with them combined with the high value making you appear out of the girl’s league and they tend to “settle” for the lesser members rather easily One interesting thing I have noticed is if you wish to counteract the intimidation of the less confident females in the group you can do so by taking value away from the alpha female and spreading a little of it to the others. She comes onto you fairly heavily and when you display disinterest or just toy with her while engaging the other females they see their “chance” so to speak to usurp the leader and they tend to leap at it anyone else see any similar effects? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-its-own-towards-women/8788/2 "2008-02-01T00:28:18Z")
Interesting observations. Others have noticed the attraction of a314 for “high value” females. You gave some interesting details of group dynamics. Please keep up the observations and reporting. ---
**Author:** ![GoldenForest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@GoldenForest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenForest)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-its-own-towards-women/8788/3 "2008-02-03T20:50:37Z")
Once again, the most attractive female of the group pays me an excessive amount of attention, I had no opportunity to reverse the effects as she was my buddy’s girl and I’m on good terms with him, so I was trying to keep it more like a friend and be a little less intense. The other girls reacted congruent with my earlier findings, I mixed IFMM and TUTH along with ISx2 and they still acted intimidated a bit, but once I opened them and started conversation they would stare dreamily into my eyes and smile. I had been trying to help a buddy out with his game and he totally screwed it up, trying to AMOG me and literally steal every girl I opened, he’s on my shit list for it, so if he actually manages to some how get a girl without ever making a move, he best not bring her around me or he’ll regret it, lol Steal is a misleading word though, he was mostly just messing it up by distracting them and getting louder and louder to hold their attention (attention hog) and supplicating them, they think oo, cool, this guy gives me stuff so they play into him for freebies but he doesn’t quit, he keeps going and interrupting me and everyone around him, I leave and find another girl OH! surprise! there he is! interrupting me again… It got on my nerves because I was trying to close different girls and he follows me and messes it up every time, damn leadership effect, lol I’m done with that kid, I’m letting him float dead in the water and taking his action from now on 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GoldenForest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@GoldenForest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenForest)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-its-own-towards-women/8788/4 "2008-02-03T21:02:19Z")
I mixed 2 drops A314 with 2 ISx2, 1 Turn Up The Heat and 1 IFMM Results were fairly congruent to the A314, it seems to take charge and the other phero’s just accent it or tweak its effects Once again, the most attractive female pays me extra attention without any effort on my part, but she is my the girl of a good friend of mine, so I did not have another opportunity to test the group mechanic as I did last time (don’t want to steal her although she was shooting IoI’s at me) The other females acted intimidated, and slightly nervous until I started talking to them, this brought many a smile and they usually stared me right in the eyes with a dreamy expression on their faces. Once again I was interfered with, however, by a friend who gave me a lot of trouble that night I would open and he would follow me around and interrupt and try to steal the girl I had tried to help him out with girls but was just being disrespectful and competitive with the girls which is making us both look bad He succeeded in being loud, creeping out a chic, annoying another by stealing half of her bed (and not doing anything with it), and messing up my chances I come off as a cool guy, and they were obviously attracted, but I was interrupted far too much to really go anywhere with it, it sucked The guy literally followed me all night, I was starting to get angry darn leadership effect… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-its-own-towards-women/8788/5 "2008-02-19T16:04:04Z")
Very interesting there GoldenForest. I’m interested in your theory of taking away value from the Alpha Woman and spreading it around. I have my own theorems on this but would appreciate if you could elaborate in more detail. Now don’t get me wrong, I did read what you had to say, but it would seem a delicate balance between being a mean person and a nice guy. Sometimes if not done correctly this very act can be quite disastrous. ---
**Author:** ![GoldenForest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@GoldenForest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenForest)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-its-own-towards-women/8788/6 "2008-02-19T23:48:14Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > Very interesting there GoldenForest. I’m interested in your theory of taking away value from the Alpha Woman and spreading it around. > > I have my own theorems on this but would appreciate if you could elaborate in more detail. Now don’t get me wrong, I did read what you had to say, but it would seem a delicate balance between being a mean person and a nice guy. Sometimes if not done correctly this very act can be quite disastrous. It is a bit difficult to really elaborate on it, it involves a lot of things that relate to pick up artist theory but basically, if the established leader of the group of girls(female not male leader) is after you their friends are also generally interested in you(something called social proof) and by making the leader invest a lot of energy in interacting with you and having the others need much less, and giving them a little more attention it kind of creates an effect where anything you do with the leader the others will assume they can and want to because all your interactions so far have shown them that they are currently above the leader with you and they want to prove it to themselves and feel good about themselves when they get that proof Normally showing the extra attention has a negative effect in terms of getting someone attracted, but you use the leader to generate the attraction in all the members its got some stuff to do with competition and how men and women react to a high value member of the opposite sex All of these things are situational though, you cannot follow a specific formula and expect the same results each time, stuff related to behavior is more about finding certain patterns that you can recognize and use during interactions I also agree that it is a very fine line go too far and your mean, go too little and your a wuss do it right and your on fire, haha