# A314 or Ammo again, now that my social skills are much better? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 16, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519 "2009-09-16T19:39:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/1 "2009-09-16T19:39:20Z")
Ok everyone I have a VERY big problem that needs to be addressed. Before now I used [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) back in high school and got ok results. But those results would have been better IF I had better social skills. 5 months later with ZERO phero usage and now my natural people skills are waaaaaaaaaay better, I can crack jokes, yet I’ve been told I have a cool personality and am good looking. I’m also much better at breaking the ice and gaining people’s trust very quickly. The problem is that I’ve heard A314 works best with outgoing people with good people skills and I’m thinking about buying it but I’m wondering if I should give Ammo another shot since it also works good with outgoing/funny people. Also, does being funny deteriorate from A314? Any advice is appreciated. P.S. I’m 18. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/2 "2009-09-16T22:59:49Z")
Bump for an answer ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/3 "2009-09-16T23:08:08Z")
I would advise with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) over the A314 simply because of the age. IG makes you seem a bit older, more charismatic, and will definitely help you to build off of your personality. - “Instant Gentleman” For Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct ([Instant Gentleman — Classy, High Value Male Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)) Couple that with the AMMO and I think you have a DANGEROUS combination for the ladies. ---
**Author:** ![kaosman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@kaosman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kaosman)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/4 "2009-09-16T23:09:22Z")
I think you will like ammo since you cant OD from it and its not an intense and a314. also you are pretty young dont wanna intimidate people with a314 ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/5 "2009-09-16T23:19:34Z")
Alright guys, thanks. It’s just that when your personality starts altering a little you have to start rethinking product choice know what I mean? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/6 "2009-09-17T00:36:02Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Alright guys, thanks. It’s just that when your personality starts altering a little you have to start rethinking product choice know what I mean? Actually, I would agree with the IG suggestion. It really does help to make people see you as the the guy everyone wants to know. The stuff is great when paired with IO to get people talking to you and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to make you seem like someone they just have to be around. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/7 "2009-09-17T01:01:21Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Actually, I would agree with the IG suggestion. It really does help to make people see you as the the guy everyone wants to know. The stuff is great when paired with IO to get people talking to you and Instant Shine to make you seem like someone they just have to be around. Yeah see the thing is that I know that pheros are 90% you and 10% them it’s just that now that I have the me part underwraps I need the correct 10% because I want to ADD 10% to myself not subtract. But your suggestions are very much appreciated. I’m just wondering wether I should get IG with Ammo or IG with IS. It’s hard to decide wether I should build from comedic side or build from my “cool” side. Decisions, descisions… ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/8 "2009-09-17T01:04:58Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Yeah see the thing is that I know that pheros are 90% you and 10% them it’s just that now that I have the me part underwraps I need the correct 10% because I want to ADD 10% to myself not subtract. > > But your suggestions are very much appreciated. I’m just wondering wether I should get IG with Ammo or IG with IS. It’s hard to decide wether I should build from comedic side or build from my “cool” side. > > Decisions, descisions… From experience, either product (Instant Gentleman or Ammo) can be flipped whichever way YOU choose to do it. Just a matter of which one you think will work best for you. Ammo doesn’t work for me so my first suggestion is IG and IS because women see you as more ‘important’ and yet someone approachable. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/9 "2009-09-17T02:19:14Z")
Thanks Snoop, I think I’ll go with the Ammo and IS. I worked good 5 months ago so maybe now I’ll be able to manipulate it a little more. ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/10 "2009-09-17T02:28:35Z")
dude. get both. dont leave a314 out of the mix, if you really think you might need it, im 18 and use it it works great ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/11 "2009-09-17T23:06:08Z")
> [@Michael721](#): > > dude. get both. dont leave a314 out of the mix, if you really think you might need it, > > im 18 and use it > > it works great Really? That’s not a bad idea though, why settle for one when I can get both eh? How did you dose the A314 and ammo? ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/12 "2009-09-18T07:42:06Z")
I don’t think being funny would detract from the A314. Quite the opposite. Humour is an alpha male attribute - look at all the movies in which the action hero is in a tight situation and cracks a joke. Humour shows you are relaxed, intelligent, and paying attention to whats going on around you, all alpha qualities. And laughter shows submission, so the high status should make them laugh MORE. (This is why some girls get giggly around guys they are attracted to.) ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/13 "2009-09-18T13:24:11Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > I don’t think being funny would detract from the A314. Quite the opposite. Humour is an alpha male attribute - look at all the movies in which the action hero is in a tight situation and cracks a joke. Humour shows you are relaxed, intelligent, and paying attention to whats going on around you, all alpha qualities. And laughter shows submission, so the high status should make them laugh MORE. (This is why some girls get giggly around guys they are attracted to.) That is a very good point. I didn’t even stop to consider that… I think what it is is that most people (myself included) consider A314 to be a “serious” product. Reps to you man. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/14 "2009-09-18T15:00:47Z")
Serious isn’t quite the right word for sure. It definitely has it’s more serious applications… but it’s more of dominant type thing. Be that ALPHA funny guy and the chicks will eat it up like candy. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/15 "2009-09-18T17:53:54Z")
You know I think the main problem is that the media has kinda altered the image of the alpha. In movies we usually see the alpha guy as being a big muscle bound guy that cusses up a storm and kicks ass. Rarely do people think of alpha as being “funny”. This discussion has really opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities… ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/16 "2009-09-18T17:58:25Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > You know I think the main problem is that the media has kinda altered the image of the alpha. In movies we usually see the alpha guy as being a big muscle bound guy that cusses up a storm and kicks ass. Rarely do people think of alpha as being “funny”. This discussion has really opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities… That’s what this place is for! It’s great to have well through out perspectives and experience reports from other people to help open your eyes to the possibilities. Do some testing with it and let us know how it goes. I would think that the A314 would pump your positive personality traits up majorly and people will take notice of that. The whole “Alpha” thing has me thinking a lot. Gonna have to do some writing soon… ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/17 "2009-09-18T18:27:14Z")
> [@Reclipse](#): > > That’s what this place is for! It’s great to have well through out perspectives and experience reports from other people to help open your eyes to the possibilities. > > Do some testing with it and let us know how it goes. I would think that the A314 would pump your positive personality traits up majorly and people will take notice of that. > > The whole “Alpha” thing has me thinking a lot. Gonna have to do some writing soon… Lol, that’s why I love this place. It provides a wealth of information free of BS. Reclipse perhaps a thread should be created asking people what they define as “Alpha”? I think it could help people to address the myths from the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/18 "2009-09-18T18:33:54Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Lol, that’s why I love this place. It provides a wealth of information free of BS. > > Reclipse perhaps a thread should be created asking people what they define as “Alpha”? I think it could help people to address the myths from the facts. Funny you mention that… my current status on my IM programs is ‘The Alpha Experiment’ which is an idea in my head… possibly to turn into a long writing project about the transformation from a normal person with some alpha traits to a physically and socially dominant alpha. And when I say physically, I mean in proper shape and healthy. I’m not so much either… but I do have some Alpha traits for sure. Just not so much due to weight and personal self image things… but when I’m on my game I’m 100% alpha This whole thing is a learning experience. I’ll make the thread right now if you haven’t already. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ammo-again-now-that-my-social-skills-are-much-better/32519/19 "2009-09-18T19:49:17Z")
> [@Reclipse](#): > > Funny you mention that… my current status on my IM programs is ‘The Alpha Experiment’ which is an idea in my head… possibly to turn into a long writing project about the transformation from a normal person with some alpha traits to a physically and socially dominant alpha. And when I say physically, I mean in proper shape and healthy. I’m not so much either… but I do have some Alpha traits for sure. Just not so much due to weight and personal self image things… but when I’m on my game I’m 100% alpha > > This whole thing is a learning experience. > > I’ll make the thread right now if you haven’t already. Sure, no problem man. I’d love to see the communtiy’s response. The idea has potential. I’m also eager to hear about your “Alpha Experiment”. It looks promising.