# A314 or IG: First day / week on the job...

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 6, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655 "2011-08-06T20:44:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/1 "2011-08-06T20:44:35Z")

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Hello all,

Just wanted to get a collection of views from people who have actually used pheros on the first day of a new job. In particular, I wanted to gauge opinion from those who have used IG or A314, and the effects that it had with regard to first impressions.

My brother is starting at a investment bank in a couple of days. It’s his first job (he graduated recently from college). Given the extreme turbulence (no pun intended) seen in the global economy, the threat of layoffs and general shitty environment, I have given him free reign on my collection, to give him an “edge” over the other 25 or so Analysts in his class. I don’t know much about finance careers but from what I have read in other forums and by talking to him, first impression is absolutely crucial (just like any other job I guess!).

I think IG would be a good one (I don’t want him to appear like a “I know everything…I’m a star” type person so early into an important job and piss off someone above him) but I also have A314 UFE, which from my own experience is a little softer than full-fat A314.

Anyways, all thoughts are welcome and highly appreciated!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/2 "2011-08-06T21:17:20Z")

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I would say go with the IG on his first day and suss out what his team and boss is like and then later on decide if he wants to wear A314

> [@ps86651](#):
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> Hello all,
> 
> Just wanted to get a collection of views from people who have actually used pheros on the first day of a new job. In particular, I wanted to gauge opinion from those who have used IG or A314, and the effects that it had with regard to first impressions.
> 
> My brother is starting at a investment bank in a couple of days. It’s his first job (he graduated recently from college). Given the extreme turbulence (no pun intended) seen in the global economy, the threat of layoffs and general shitty environment, I have given him free reign on my collection, to give him an “edge” over the other 25 or so Analysts in his class. I don’t know much about finance careers but from what I have read in other forums and by talking to him, first impression is absolutely crucial (just like any other job I guess!).
> 
> I think IG would be a good one (I don’t want him to appear like a “I know everything…I’m a star” type person so early into an important job and piss off someone above him) but I also have A314 UFE, which from my own experience is a little softer than full-fat A314.
> 
> Anyways, all thoughts are welcome and highly appreciated!

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**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/3 "2011-08-06T23:39:06Z")

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I’d go with IG as well. I started out my new job with A314 and I got a bit more responsibility thrown at me than I was expecting.

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**Author:** ![PharoahTalk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pharoahtalk/32/1197_2.png) [@PharoahTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PharoahTalk)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/4 "2011-08-07T06:11:55Z")

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this is helpful for me.

What would be best combo with IG?

IG+IH+IO?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 7:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/5 "2011-08-07T07:37:28Z")

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With what type of situation?

There is no best combo with IG except for a “best for situation” with “best for a type of person/people” you are going to be in/with

At work it would be IG and IS and then optionally IH

If you’re going to class, IG and maybe both IO and IH.

If you’re going on a date maybe IG, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IH.

As you can see it really depends

> [@PharoahTalk](#):
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> this is helpful for me.
> 
> What would be best combo with IG?
> 
> IG+IH+IO?

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**Author:** ![PharoahTalk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pharoahtalk/32/1197_2.png) [@PharoahTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PharoahTalk)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 9:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/6 "2011-08-07T09:14:20Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#):
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> With what type of situation?
> 
> There is no best combo with IG except for a “best for situation” with “best for a type of person/people” you are going to be in/with
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> At work it would be IG and IS and then optionally IH
> 
> If you’re going to class, IG and maybe both IO and IH.
> 
> If you’re going on a date maybe IG, Ammo and IH.
> 
> As you can see it really depends

I meant for the situation where your new at a workplace and you dont know anyone there. So you would want to get everyone to like you fast, especially upper management.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 9:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/7 "2011-08-07T09:30:05Z")

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IG+IS and IH optional

> [@PharoahTalk](#):
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> I meant for the situation where your new at a workplace and you dont know anyone there. So you would want to get everyone to like you fast, especially upper management.

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**Author:** ![PharoahTalk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pharoahtalk/32/1197_2.png) [@PharoahTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PharoahTalk)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/8 "2011-08-07T09:59:45Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#):
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> IG+IS and IH optional

What kind of vibe does that convey?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/9 "2011-08-08T17:06:01Z")

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Dependable Mr Nice Guy

> [@PharoahTalk](#):
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> What kind of vibe does that convey?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/10 "2011-08-08T17:44:07Z")

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He’s in IB, I would go with A314.

This is a different animal all together. Bosses aren’t really intimidated by you because they’ve already made it past the “initiation” stages. You’re there to look the best and work the hardest, it’s a dog eat dog world in IB, and while you wanna make friends, the next guy will stab you in the back for the bigger bonus. Establish a well respected “I know what I’m doing don’t mess with me” vibe and let his own personality take over the rest.

Moreover, they work so many hours and are constantly busy that A314 in its oil form would work so much better because of the slow diffusion and he won’t forget to repply.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/11 "2011-08-08T18:19:33Z")

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While all these are great suggestions, based on the individual providing them personal experience, the real question lies in your brothers personality. There are members here that greatly benefit from the warmer, more charismatic persona of IG, while others pull off A314 without a hitch. I would have him wear both and determine for himself which is the one “HE” is more comfortable with. Whenever I wear A314, which is more often than IG, I never felt like I knew everything. Contrary to that, as an ALPHA male, when there is something that I don’t know I embrace it to learn it. I take what I can get from whomever is offering it.

I think the best decision he can make is the decision of which one makes him more comfortable.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-or-ig-first-day-week-on-the-job/51655/12 "2011-08-08T18:42:09Z")

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Lol. I wouldn’t disagree with you, but then again I’d opt to be on the safe side on 1st day.

How did your brother join this bank and is he undergoing some sort of programme right now?

> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> He’s in IB, I would go with A314.
> 
> This is a different animal all together. Bosses aren’t really intimidated by you because they’ve already made it past the “initiation” stages. You’re there to look the best and work the hardest, it’s a dog eat dog world in IB, and while you wanna make friends, the next guy will stab you in the back for the bigger bonus. Establish a well respected “I know what I’m doing don’t mess with me” vibe and let his own personality take over the rest.
> 
> Moreover, they work so many hours and are constantly busy that A314 in its oil form would work so much better because of the slow diffusion and he won’t forget to repply.
