# A314 + p114 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 10, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284 "2011-09-10T03:26:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/21 "2011-10-21T08:52:41Z")
> [@extraballislit](#): > > Sounds just great, Mobo. Great reports as always. And as good with the ladies as alwys. > > How much A314 are you using together with P114? > > Would it be appropriate for an ofice environment? > > Thanks. > > Talk to you soon. I’ve got a lot better since finding a range of pheros/mixes that suit my demeanour TBH - And a lot of good wider advice here! 🙂 For something sexual, I’m going fairly high on the A314 - 4-6 drops (depending on version) and around 30-40mcg P114. 30mcg seems to be the dose I’m coming back to time and time again. If you don’t have ENE, I would get some none in there too - TUTH, NPA and Alter Ego are the main ones I’ve used so far - I didn’t find [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) that effective, maybe its nol and rone balance detracts? For work/social applications Its a more normal 2-3 drops standard A314 and 10-20mcg P114 and yes it is good at work. That is if you don’t mind not getting much work done! The conversations you get into with randoms are nothing compared to your colleagues. Every little five minute job turns into a good long chat and your opinion gets sought on **everything,** not always work related. Saying that, I’ve not worn it around the really high-ups much yet, as I’m finding the straight A314 is serving me very well there. I also don’t know if it quite exceeds my favourite work combo of A314/IH/P74 (You can add something like NPA to this to turn it very sexual) yet but I mainly save that one for public events and semi-social things. That one just seems to wow them! ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/22 "2011-10-31T05:00:40Z")
P114 seems really great with a314, my classic nightlife mix is 5xa314+2TUTH+2IH+4inches Master for men what can I expect if I switch the IH for p114? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/23 "2011-10-31T12:09:52Z")
I expect you would have a very, very good time! 😃 The pleasant/commanding nature of the P114/A314 combo is driven in a very sexual direction by the addition of TUTH. I don’t know Master at at all but I would tend to the thinking that I would use either it or TUTH. Keeping this mix simple seems to be a key but it would be interesting to hear your results with and without Master as P114 is not the most widely tested put. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/24 "2011-10-31T19:53:18Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I expect you would have a very, very good time! 😃 > > The pleasant/commanding nature of the P114/A314 combo is driven in a very sexual direction by the addition of TUTH. I don’t know Master at at all but I would tend to the thinking that I would use either it or TUTH. > > Keeping this mix simple seems to be a key but it would be interesting to hear your results with and without Master as P114 is not the most widely tested put. 🙂 Master is geared toward the wearer, great product! It’s like the full self effect of a314 on yourself the first time you wear it but it doesn’t tone down with time like a314 or p75 does. Back to p114, what does it add to a314 precisely? I seem to understand that it will tone down the alpha in a314? IO does tone down the alpha but not in a good way so whats your take on p114 with a314? Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/25 "2011-10-31T21:33:21Z")
Well, I dislike anything with A314/IO together because it significantly destroys the vibe. However, other folk may need that toning down effect. IME, P114 is totally different - It takes nothing at all from A314 but add a pleasant/commanding/hanging on your every word layer that makes it so good for conversation and having your authority liked and taken with little question. Then I started adding it to sexual mixes and was gobsmacked what I could get women to do for me - and where! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/26 "2011-10-31T21:51:52Z")
I have a couple of 30 ml bottles of P114 as it has been one of my all time fav molecules. Another one that I love is P123. I can see that both of these can do some wonders for the Alphaness vibe of IG or A314. Here is a post of mine with P123. > [@Commercial line, MX and P's mixed to create...CHAOS!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/commercial-line-mx-and-ps-mixed-to-create-chaos/43111/66): > > Did a bit more of a ‘standard’ combo. I had on IG, IO and P123. Went with: 3 x IG - one to each side of neck and top of hair. 3 x IO - one to throat area and one on top of each hand. 15 mu of P123 - to the back of neck. As I was meeting a few people that were visiting from out of the country, I wanted an easy to open conversation with the leader vibe without being overbearing. P123 seemed to bring to the table a lucidity about me. It seems to bold type whatever mone I’m wearing. Th… Spoiler alert… Self effects listing… DON’T click on the link if you’re testing P114… 😃 > [@P114 - Neroli Fragrance 30ml - 10 mcg per spray. What is this?!?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p114-neroli-fragrance-30ml-10-mcg-per-spray-what-is-this/42944/39): > > Some of my conclusions: A summary of P114… 10 mu: Some sharpening of my senses, from what I experienced, mostly visual sharpness, edges and contrasts seemed more pronounced. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p114-neroli-fragrance-30ml-10-mcg-per-spray-what-is-this/42944/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p114-neroli-fragrance-30ml-10-mcg-per-spray-what-is-this/42944/1) 20 mu: Best effects found at this level. Sharpness of thinking, focus of actions, others around me show some IOI’s and a relaxed attitude. A hint of not caring about others or there actions. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p114-n…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p114-neroli-fragrance-30ml-10-mcg-per-spray-what-is-this/42944/13) . ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/27 "2011-10-31T21:54:08Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Well, I dislike anything with A314/IO together because it significantly destroys the vibe. However, other folk may need that toning down effect. > > IME, P114 is totally different - It takes nothing at all from A314 but add a pleasant/commanding/hanging on your every word layer that makes it so good for conversation and having your authority liked and taken with little question. > > Then I started adding it to sexual mixes and was gobsmacked what I could get women to do for me - and where! 😃 Oh well, you gave me no choice… I just ordered a 30ml of p114 10mg akuto…Looking forward to ad it to the a314+tuth ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/28 "2011-11-05T16:43:17Z")
A314 UFE - 4 drops. Each wrist and behind ears P114 in [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) - 30mcg TUTH 2x - 2 sprays. Throat and between forearms. Cover scent - CK Be. Miss F is through for the weekend and we went for a quiet drink/karaoke on Thurs night. Went to a place we have not been in often before and my modest singing ability went down exceptionally with the regulars. Made very welcome and asked to come back. The pair of us got talking to a small cute woman, I danced with her and later after making a substantial pass at me when Miss F was in the toilet, she, Miss F and I continued to another club where things began to heat-up considerably. Before long, after buying us drinks, more dancing and a very bad game of pool, she was all over us **both!** and by the end of the night more or less begging-us to come back to her’s for a threesome! Friday night was a bit more sedate - same mix but not worked so hard, partly due to my being a bit shattered at work the next day - we only went for one drink and returned for music, cocktails and an early-ish time to bed. Although we didn’t sleep till very late! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DubJD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dubjd/32/1337_2.png) [@DubJD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DubJD)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/29 "2011-11-05T23:45:58Z")
Since I am young(19yr) and most of my targets are college students I was planning on substituting A314 with IG (IG + p114). Would that be similar? I might also add in some IS. PS: which scent is recommended in p114 if I were to use it with IG or IS? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/30 "2011-11-06T00:08:30Z")
IG & IS are both in [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), so P114 in Neroli would prob match. However I’ve only ever used P114 in Akuto, so maybe others could comment better? ---
**Author:** ![DubJD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dubjd/32/1337_2.png) [@DubJD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DubJD)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/31 "2011-11-06T05:22:30Z")
Oh ok thanks mobo! 😃 Looks like I’ll order neroli then. So the IG + p114 is good? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/32 "2011-11-06T14:32:55Z")
I’ve not tried them together but I see no reason why a lighter version of the pleasant status effect wouldn’t be excellent for younger people. Looking forward to seeing your results. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/33 "2011-11-06T22:32:17Z")
Went out clubbing the last two nights and so far I’m really not impress with p114 mixed to a314. I tend to feel that p114 soften the alpha projection a lot. Normally with my classic 5a314+ 2 tuth I get the kind of respect that frighten guys and put in awe all women, with p114 added I lost a lot of these respect hits and I didn’t notice something good in exchange…Still early in my test but may be coming back to my classic 5a314+2tuth… ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/34 "2011-11-07T00:47:13Z")
Personally I wouldn’t use p114 in a club setting, you want to go for a more sexually charged vibe in those settings. So I’d say stick to your a314/tuth combo. ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/35 "2011-11-07T01:15:54Z")
> [@WillieBeeman](#): > > Went out clubbing the last two nights and so far I’m really not impress with p114 mixed to a314. I tend to feel that p114 soften the alpha projection a lot. > > Normally with my classic 5a314+ 2 tuth I get the kind of respect that frighten guys and put in awe all women, with p114 added I lost a lot of these respect hits and I didn’t notice something good in exchange…Still early in my test but may be coming back to my classic 5a314+2tuth… willie iam glad the combo his working out out for you.. Quick question have you been adding Master in your mix ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/36 "2011-11-07T03:28:55Z")
> [@hillcat](#): > > willie iam glad the combo his working out out for you.. Quick question have you been adding Master in your mix Yep I’m always wearing Master, I called it instant swagger but it only affect the wearer so I’m not counting it in my mix… ---
**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/37 "2011-11-08T21:14:47Z")
> [@2000GT](#): > > Personally I wouldn’t use p114 in a club setting, you want to go for a more sexually charged vibe in those settings. So I’d say stick to your a314/tuth combo. I agree. There are a lot better alternatives to clubbing than P114. P114 is great at work. I have pretty much changed from A314, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), IH, to A314 p114. The original mix helped land me the job, but A314 and p114 alone has been great in terms of the relationship between me and my subordinates. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/38 "2011-11-08T21:50:32Z")
> [@WillieBeeman](#): > > Went out clubbing the last two nights and so far I’m really not impress with p114 mixed to a314. I tend to feel that p114 soften the alpha projection a lot. > > Normally with my classic 5a314+ 2 tuth I get the kind of respect that frighten guys and put in awe all women, with p114 added I lost a lot of these respect hits and I didn’t notice something good in exchange…Still early in my test but may be coming back to my classic 5a314+2tuth… Just A314/P114 to a club? I’d have some TUTH/NPA/AE or other overt none in with that. The only times I’ve taken just those two to a club/sexual situation was with A314-Extra None Edition. Which was fine. A314/P114 together is better at lower dose for work or for more sedate socialising at slightly higher. I don’t agree it softens the alpha vibe at all but it does steer it in an altogether different direction. A much more social, looked-up to kind of respect/sought after/enjoyable vibe. Which is great because it is not the intimmidating/overpowering vibe that A314 can give - There are different forms of alpha and P114 goes a long way to reducing the standoffish/remote aspect that can discourage a significant amount of people. It also ensures a more pleasant reception for your projected sexuality. On Saturday and Sunday, I took A314/P114 and IJ out for a spin. The results were to say the least interesting! I’ll write-up the lot in my journal but the highlight was probably when my ex gave me a public toe-sucking, whilst her current guy and a friend of her’s who rapidly got to hate me looked-on. Despite this, her bloke still treated me with a very decent degree of respect and friendlieness but Miss F did later comment - “you can be a bit nasty at times, can’t you!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/39 "2011-11-09T03:03:08Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Just A314/P114 to a club? I’d have some TUTH/NPA/AE or other overt none in with that. No I had 2xTuth(2.5mg) with it, I was just talking about p114 added to a314. > [@mobocaster](#): > > I don’t agree it softens the alpha vibe at all but it does steer it in an altogether different direction. A much more social, looked-up to kind of respect/sought after/enjoyable vibe. That’s exactly how IG feels my friend, at a lower price than a314… With p114 added to a314 I get the IG aura… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284/40 "2011-11-09T03:20:17Z")
Then maybe reduce the P114 until you get enough of the A314 aura whilst still retaining enough of the P114 effect? There is something more than just downsizing to IG in this mix IMO. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p114/52284.md?page=3)