# A314 + P83 or A314 + NPA **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721 "2010-04-13T20:05:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Euphorios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@Euphorios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Euphorios)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/1 "2010-04-13T20:05:12Z")
For those of you who have used all 3 of these products I was wondering which combination suited you better for the sexual alpha male vibe? I know I want to get A314(I hope Steve will sell me one of the new test batches) and either [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) when it is restocked or NPA. Anybody have any opinions? As of now I am really enjoying 2 spray AMMO 1 spray IO, 1 spray IH. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/2 "2010-04-13T20:13:50Z")
Not sure, try it for yourself and find out. That’s what testing is all about! Plus [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and NPA aren’t even remotely close to being the same molecule wise I bet. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/3 "2010-04-13T20:18:15Z")
A314 + NPA from past experience has social proof filtered women for me. I got great hits from confident women with no repressed sexuality issues like many younger women have. I had to stop using it at work b/c it was kinda eerie drawing in my older female co-workers like cougar bait. ---
**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/4 "2010-04-13T20:21:20Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > A314 + NPA from past experience has social proof filtered women for me. I got great hits from confident women with no repressed sexuality issues like many younger women have. I had to stop using it at work b/c it was kinda eerie drawing in my older female co-workers like cougar bait. really? I had this with NPA but what does a314 add for you when you wore this mix? I guessing the cougar bait part was really noticeable? If so I need to try out. I’m asking because I’m looking for a cougar.🆒 If you don’t mind me asking how much of each product did you wear? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/5 "2010-04-13T20:56:01Z")
> [@smellymen2002](#): > > really? I had this with NPA but what does a314 add for you when you wore this mix? I guessing the cougar bait part was really noticeable? If so I need to try out. I’m asking because I’m looking for a cougar.🆒 > > If you don’t mind me asking how much of each product did you wear? The A314 gives me a mellow “I wont take shit from you”. My female coworkers get coozy around me because A314 gives me a mature protector vibe which I exude quite well. Without a doubt much of the time their demeanor was just “off”. The signature is so impressive they forget that they get paid about 3k-4k every two weeks while I get like 500-600 and how young I am with all the undeniable flirting going on. I use 2 drops of A314 and 2 drops of NPA. IME A314 gives me the “I can take care of you” + the “I can give you a good time” from NPA is superb. Girls always want the “package” literally and figuratively speaking 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/6 "2010-04-13T23:24:44Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > The A314 gives me a mellow “I wont take shit from you”. My female coworkers get coozy around me because A314 gives me a mature protector vibe which I exude quite well. Without a doubt much of the time their demeanor was just “off”. The signature is so impressive they forget that they get paid about 3k-4k every two weeks while I get like 500-600 and how young I am with all the undeniable flirting going on. I use 2 drops of A314 and 2 drops of NPA. > > IME A314 gives me the “I can take care of you” + the “I can give you a good time” from NPA is superb. Girls always want the “package” literally and figuratively speaking 🆒 You mixing before applying, OA, or are you applying your NPA and covering it with A314? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/7 "2010-04-14T00:02:00Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > You mixing before applying, OA, or are you applying your NPA and covering it with A314? > > Thanks! NPA then A314 then a cologne as cover =) ---
**Author:** ![Euphorios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@Euphorios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Euphorios)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/8 "2010-04-14T00:32:22Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > NPA then A314 then a cologne as cover =) yes that was my plan! =) ---
**Author:** ![Euphorios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@Euphorios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Euphorios)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/9 "2010-04-14T01:00:02Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > The A314 gives me a mellow “I wont take shit from you”. My female coworkers get coozy around me because A314 gives me a mature protector vibe which I exude quite well. Without a doubt much of the time their demeanor was just “off”. The signature is so impressive they forget that they get paid about 3k-4k every two weeks while I get like 500-600 and how young I am with all the undeniable flirting going on. I use 2 drops of A314 and 2 drops of NPA. > > IME A314 gives me the “I can take care of you” + the “I can give you a good time” from NPA is superb. Girls always want the “package” literally and figuratively speaking 🆒 what job gets you 3-4k every two weeks!? haha ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/10 "2010-04-14T01:13:24Z")
> [@Euphorios](#): > > what job gets you 3-4k every two weeks!? haha Veteran Pharmacists 🆒 Anyway If you do decide to do that combo let us know if anything interesting happens 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Euphorios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@Euphorios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Euphorios)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/11 "2010-04-14T01:16:44Z")
I want to try the rev # versions of A314 really badly but I can’t figure out how to find their links o\_0; I was told to be an active/reporting user but I have been since I’ve registered last month… does it take a long time to be considered active/reporting? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/12 "2010-04-14T03:50:54Z")
> [@Euphorios](#): > > I want to try the rev # versions of A314 really badly but I can’t figure out how to find their links o\_0; > > I was told to be an active/reporting user but I have been since I’ve registered last month… does it take a long time to be considered active/reporting? You should receive an email from Steve stating that you are now a reporting user after you’ve done a bit of reporting. ---
**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/13 "2010-04-14T04:56:23Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > The A314 gives me a mellow “I wont take shit from you”. My female coworkers get coozy around me because A314 gives me a mature protector vibe which I exude quite well. Without a doubt much of the time their demeanor was just “off”. The signature is so impressive they forget that they get paid about 3k-4k every two weeks while I get like 500-600 and how young I am with all the undeniable flirting going on. I use 2 drops of A314 and 2 drops of NPA. > > IME A314 gives me the “I can take care of you” + the “I can give you a good time” from NPA is superb. Girls always want the “package” literally and figuratively speaking 🆒 I’m surprised that 2 drops of NPA does not have a really strong smell. I will be trying out this mix next week with NPA/TE since it is the same thing it won’t interfere with my testing. I’m guessing one drop to wrist and one drop to neck as application points? What kind of cologne do you use for cover? I have quite an impressive list of oil based collections. Which cologne have you use that cover the cat piss smell for a long period of time? ---
**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/14 "2010-04-14T08:16:30Z")
I’ve used it myself by mixing equal parts npa and A314, added to perfume oil 2-3 parts. It is an addicting mix for self effects - awesome really! ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/15 "2010-04-14T11:21:29Z")
> [@smellymen2002](#): > > I’m surprised that 2 drops of NPA does not have a really strong smell. I will be trying out this mix next week with NPA/TE since it is the same thing it won’t interfere with my testing. > > I’m guessing one drop to wrist and one drop to neck as application points? > > What kind of cologne do you use for cover? I have quite an impressive list of oil based collections. Which cologne have you use that cover the cat piss smell for a long period of time? Yep 1 to wrist 1 under the ear. Well when I have something thats hard to cover up I use a cologne and cologne oil of the same variety. I like Tobacco Vanille and Angel Cologne and I use them to great effect. ---
**Author:** ![gamo10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b19c9b/32.png) [@gamo10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gamo10)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/16 "2010-04-14T12:32:24Z")
Like I’ve stated in earlier posts I love A314 right by itself it is my base for everything I wear can’t seem to not wear it because I almost feel naked, and for me with my own natural chemistry it works really well. I have been using 1 to 2 drops for work and 2 to 3 drops for going out in a more crowded environment. but here lately after getting my order of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and testing it in combination with A314 I’m really liking the results so far. One of my more exciting hits came from an unlikely lady and I used A314 and P83 in combination with 2 sprays 12.5mcg each of CTTM2 you can read about it in this post. [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/good-p83](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-p83-hits-too-bad-out-of-stock/36344) -hits-too-bad-out-39245.html ([Good P83 hits....too bad out of stock!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-p83-hits-too-bad-out-of-stock/36344)) Good luck with your testing and I will be posting more results as I test.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/17 "2010-04-14T19:35:55Z")
I am gonna get some [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) on my next order, might as well give it a try 🙂 Whats NPA though? ---
**Author:** ![yetis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@yetis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yetis)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/18 "2010-04-17T14:00:22Z")
> [@Stud\_Muffin](#): > > I am gonna get some P83 on my next order, might as well give it a try 🙂 > > Whats NPA though? NPA stands for “New [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Additive”. It’s a product from Love Scent. High concentrated on Androste-none … i believe. Let me have a look @ this little thing called bottle… 5ml - Product of Lacroy Chemical - `http://www.love-scent.com` There you can get further information… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/19 "2010-04-18T02:59:42Z")
I like NPA and the sexual effects but the self effects of A314 + [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) are incredible. The self effects of Instant Jerk are stronger then NPA but NPA is a sexual bomb. ---
**Author:** ![ankhbr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@ankhbr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ankhbr)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721/20 "2010-04-20T01:17:43Z")
A314 + [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) (and probably IO, too) is something I plan to test pretty soon! I’ve been watching the effects A314 gives on me, and I wanna know what would come from combining it with P83+IO (which usually puts me in a “mental excitement” state)! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-p83-or-a314-npa/37721.md?page=2)