# A314 poll self effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 2, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865 "2009-01-02T04:07:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/1 "2009-01-02T04:07:32Z")
I’m 16 and i haven’t felt a single self effect from the A314 that I just bought. do any of you find that odd? anyways, since its my winter break, i wanna test it out in school just to make sure its not just that I’m used 2 them or something, even though i haven’t ever used it before. Oh and I haven’t even felt a thing from the 6 sprays of Instant shine 2x that i sprayed on. which is odd becuase i felt it when i first tried Is in a togo bottle 2 weeks before that. It may sound stupid but i have a feeling something might have happened 2 them during the 2 weeks dhl held it ☹ ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/2 "2009-01-02T04:09:23Z")
I posted in the A314 area but i wanted everyone 2 see it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/3 "2009-01-02T07:46:36Z")
Where are you applying the Alpha? Try on your upper lip, I get really intense self effects when I apply it there. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/4 "2009-01-02T09:02:03Z")
The self effects from full size bottles Alpha A314 and also [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) were very noticable the first couple times i applied them, but the self effects dont go on like forever, unless i take a long break. It took me awhile to really notice anything much in the way of hit type action with my A314 at first and i thought it may have been useless, But i eventually bought another bottle before the first had even reached 3/4 way because i started to notice some great action from the stuff as i became more phero experienced. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/5 "2009-01-02T10:05:56Z")
I didn’t start using A314 until I had used other products heavy in androsterone and androstenone for several years, so I already had a tolerance to these mones. So, no, I have never felt any self-effects from A314. However it’s one of my fav products for work as it fosters respectable communication and cooperation from those working under me. Plus, I prefer a clear head and hate the thought of drinking my own poison. I want to influence my targets, not self-medicate. If I wanna get stoned, weed or booze works much better. Incidentally I love the scent of LS A314. Whips [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) and good. ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/6 "2009-01-02T18:45:40Z")
> [@pherophreak](#): > > Where are you applying the Alpha? Try on your upper lip, I get really intense self effects when I apply it there. right under my nose on my upper lip, and another 2 drops down my ears towards my jawline. havent felt a thing ☹ ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/7 "2009-01-02T18:50:04Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I didn’t start using A314 until I had used other products heavy in androsterone and androstenone for several years, so I already had a tolerance to these mones. So, no, I have never felt any self-effects from A314. However it’s one of my fav products for work as it fosters respectable communication and cooperation from those working under me. Plus, I prefer a clear head and hate the thought of drinking my own poison. I want to influence my targets, not self-medicate. If I wanna get stoned, weed or booze works much better. > > Incidentally I love the scent of LS A314. Whips Akuto and good. 😃 Gegogi ur right about the self medicating part but I just wanna feel it at least once if not 4 a while. I dont know why I cant feel a thing Is it cuz i blaze? As soon as I can feel its effects at least once, it wouldnt bother me so much. but I tried 6 sprays of 2x shine and nothing happened. (all these mones came in the same order) and thats completely rediculous becuase 2 sprays of a togo of the shine i got 4 free got me smiliing like a retard. and i hear spaceland smells like weed is that true? lol ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/8 "2009-01-02T20:14:49Z")
> [@](#): > > and i hear spaceland smells like weed is that true? lol Nope, that ain’t true at all. Spaceland has a strong EO scent, I think clary sage. Smells kinda like headshop incense hence maybe the weed association. It’s scent is too hippie for me but the heavy androstenol dose works great if you wanna lube up your target’s verbal centers. ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/9 "2009-01-02T20:19:07Z")
IC.. im guessing it smells like Hemp shops? So do you think its odd i cant feel a self effect from the A314 if i put it right under my nose? especially because i havent been using pheros for a long time like you? and what kind of behaviours do you notice in people when wearing it? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 9:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/10 "2009-01-03T09:47:20Z")
Not really. As a noob, I felt only a mild anticipation–sorta like a coffee buzz–from a stiff dose of androstenone. After a few uses, not even that. I’ve not felt much from the many other mones I’ve tried. Realize for most humans mone reactions are context sensitive (otherwise you’d get buzzed off your armpit after a workout). For example, if I sniff a bottle of EOW (artificial pussy juice) I get nothing except a gross smell up my nose. Now with that same scent coming off a hot woman next to me I get instant wood and wanna make babies. Context is everything for me. Or perhaps you’re numb from years of smoking weed and eating psilocybin mushrooms. Mones are pretty subtle in comparison… ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/11 "2009-01-03T20:09:53Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Or perhaps you’re numb from years of smoking weed and eating psilocybin mushrooms. Mones are pretty subtle in comparison… Hopefully its not the weed. i read that smoking could be linked to the possible destruction of the vno? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/12 "2009-01-03T23:24:36Z")
Don’t worry, evolution took care of the human VNO millions of years ago. The human VNO is a merely vestigial organ. We detect mones via sense of smell. You might wanna read the book, Scent of Eros by JVK to bone up on the basic science behind human mones. The existence of a functional human VNO was discredited by research many years ago. ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/13 "2009-01-04T07:12:41Z")
Really?\> So not to be insulting but do you smoke weed? and if you do, do you think that has affecteed your sense of “pheremone” smell? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/14 "2009-01-04T07:51:15Z")
Only while visiting Amsterdam and Spain. In most others countries it is subject to fine and/or jail time. ---
**Author:** ![Oakey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/258eb7/32.png) [@Oakey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oakey)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/15 "2009-01-04T14:41:14Z")
I usually use 1 drop split and allpied from my ears to the base of my neck… and half a drop applied to the base of my nose… And damn it makes me feel on top of the world, damn near invincible lol only after about 6 hours i seem to get more tires than i usully do after a long day… ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/16 "2009-01-04T21:05:13Z")
> [@Oakey](#): > > I usually use 1 drop split and allpied from my ears to the base of my neck… and half a drop applied to the base of my nose… And damn it makes me feel on top of the world, damn near invincible lol only after about 6 hours i seem to get more tires than i usully do after a long day… I dont get that!!!☹ im reaallly pissed. and i dont notice a difference in reactions either from my friends or my family. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/17 "2009-01-04T21:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > and i dont notice a difference in reactions either from my friends or my family. Those that know you well have you pegged. It’s difficult to change their view of your role and status with or without mones. They’re just too used to you. Mones are the most successful for first impressions and casual acquaintances. Also, wearing an alpha enhancing mone without alpha behavior and status is incongruent. In other words, you don’t make sense and therefore they ignore the mone signals. Think of this way. Spray TUTH on a lamppost where young women are hangin’. They detect the mone and think, “hot guy” but, seeing the lamppost instead, their brain tells them its a false alarm and instructs them to stand down from the mone signal. So, unless your new mone signature is accompanied with corresponding behavior and status, you’re pretty much just a lamppost. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/18 "2009-01-04T21:50:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Think of this way. Spray Turn Up The Heat on a lamppost where young women are hangin’. They detect the pheromone and think, “hot guy” but, seeing the lamppost instead, their brain tells them its a false alarm and instructs them to stand down from the pheromone signal. So, unless your new pheromone signature is accompanied with corresponding behavior and status, you’re pretty much just a lamppost. I dont know Gegogi, if it were me I think I would do a little pole dance just to be sure 😛 Never know a guy could have been recently leaning on the pole and still in the vicinity. I love TUTH Tisha ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/19 "2009-01-04T22:35:01Z")
HAHAHAHhh lool. Well I dont conciously force my decisions or opinions on my friends but I’m basically the leader of our band. Most of what I say goes though recently I’ve kind of gotten fed up with doing all the leading and I’ve been trying to incorporate my friends into thinking for themselves and maybe voicing some opinions and suggestions. Its kind of a problem cuz they dont like being blamed for any shortcomings that happen so they dont really suggest anything and basically expect me to “lead” i guess.. I hadnt really noticed the hierarchy of our group but once i started on mones I started seing things differently. So I dont think Im not portraying anything different from what the a314 is sending out to them. LOL once the other night I put some on my upper lip (though i didnt feel a thing or notice any different reactions) my friend saw it shining and he says “you have a little drip there” and I realised that the oil was glistening so i tried moving it around a bit. Does anyone notice that pheros taste REALLY REALLY bad? LOL i had 2 spit 2 get the taste out. (maybe the fact that its really really cold is affecting me seing results? Anyways I’m going 2 school starting 2morrow so I’ll have perfect repetitive testing grounds with no drastic changes from day to day. so if they dont work then I’ll exchange em or something? Anyways I’m not gonna go for a refund cuz i know that the ammo and tuth (togo) and shine (togo) that i got from my first batch work like a charm. Its just the 2nd batch that seem to be not working somehow ☹ With ammo Ive had girls touching me 😃 telling me i smell good and telling me how hot i am lol with Tuth A girl who sits next 2 me in bio was sitting sideways 2wards me and asked me 2 copy my notes (even though we just took them and they were still on the board?) and when i offered it 2 her she just scooted over and just sat like really close and i swear i heard her sniff me! does anyone notice that people sniff you? its fucking weirdd Oh and i slept with a girl and she was all like “i cant do this” so im like “we can stop” and shes like “NO!!! keep touching me!” LOL so im guessing the pheros were making her too horny 😃 she even told mme she loved me!!! but I dont like her like that so after that day we never spoek of it lol and with the shine I had the midgets fighting over me and this girl starting random small talk with me “did you get a haircut?” im lik WTF? u saw me lik 2 hours ago and my hairs the same.. ANYWAYS… LONG ass post im convinced somethings wrong with the batch i got but I’ll be testing at school to make sure. I’ll be testing them individually. just like i did with ammo OH and is it un-alpha of me to try and get my friends to voice their opinions sometimes? I feel like im talking to robots who just do w/e and I really dont want that. I want my friends to be more of a round table than a normal table with me in the front just telling people what to do its not fun ☹ maybe i should have put this in its own separate post? lol ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865/20 "2009-01-29T21:19:29Z")
Is it possible that age may be playing a part in this? 16 seems a bit young for A314. I dunno… I just haven’t seen that mentioned and thought I’d toss it out there. -D4 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-poll-self-effects/189865.md?page=2)