# A314 questions... And others?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 5, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065 "2014-02-05T21:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/1 "2014-02-05T21:51:55Z")
First off, I’m thinking about ordering some A314 to try out.. Is there a difference with the 10mL oil kind and the togo-sprays?? Also, I’ve read a lot about the A314 and it sounds great.. And I have an idea for a mix that will fit me and my situation.. Lately, I’ve been doing a lot of tests with -mones and the wife… And it’s been a lot of hit and miss.. But just recently, I tried 5 sprays TUTH and that was it and it went great. She was very submissive, kind, fun to be around, and very sexual. First off, the kind of aura I want to convey is something that says “I’m very alpha, so respect me, but I’m hot, so desire me, but I’m very kind, trustworthy, and understanding, so be open with me, but don’t talk too much, unless you are complementing me or wanting something sexual from me.” Ok it’s a lot, lol.. But I’m trying to be specific. What I find is that when I have on AMMO or IH or p130 she just seems to get emotional or talk too much, that’s why I tried just the TUTH.. And the results were near perfect, and just hardly shy of what I’m looking for. So I was thinking, when my IS comes in (already ordered), I would try that with TUTH to make the situation like it was last time but maybe more happy and feel good. And I was thinking about adding some A314 on top of this to create more of the Alpha respect me, look up to me vibe.. My question is, am I on the right track with what my goals are??? Also, what effects should I expect from A314??? I’d also like to add that, I also want the A314 anyways for when I’m out and about or at school, so I can have that alpha vibe.. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/2 "2014-02-06T04:39:33Z")
Bump\*\* Anybody…?? ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/3 "2014-02-06T05:30:29Z")
Sure why not, I’ll bite. You’re asking for too much. You are basically asking if I understand correctly you want people to stay the hell away from you unless they want you for some self-minded sexual purposes. Now I’m sure you wouldn’t act on those but the mere fact of being desirable at that level is something you would want to achieve. This is something of an axe effect you’re looking for. Let me clarify, axe effects very RARELY happen. Now I’m only addressing the last part of what you want out of your vibe now I will begin to address the other parts. Being open with you and not talking too much is an oxymoron as far as I understand. It’s like you’re putting on IO or IH and you’re expecting people NOT to chat your face off. These [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) will cause that to happen. People will be chatty or tell you things you would never dream of hearing. Now asides from those two points, being alpha with respect because you’re hot tends to be just _slightly_ conflicting with your other point of being kind. With a certain degree of respect that you can achieve through a314, it’s sort of an intimidation factor in a way. Being understanding and your point of don’t talk to much to me unless you want something sexual is also a bit of an oxymoron. If you want this I don’t quite understand how it works in that you are understanding that a person wants to talk to you, yet you are sending them away because they do not want anything complement/sexual from you. Anyway, that being said… a314 is what you want for the alpha, respect, trustworthy and dont talk to much in some sense. However, using a314 will also diminish people to be open because they may fear some sort of judgment because your high status is intimidating. If you were to use something like IO to soften the vibe, I believe it would hinder some of the alpha/respect vibe that comes from a314. In other words to me, your goal makes no sense to me and is asking for too much. Maybe someone more experience than me will have more extensive knowledge about what other pheromones can do but my knowledge isn’t quite up there yet. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/4 "2014-02-06T05:43:08Z")
It’s good that you’re being specific about your aims. Nearly anything is possible with mones, and since you are targeting one specific person rather than a general audience, it should be very achievable for you. I can see where p130 didn’t achieve your goal, that one is a lot more of a stress reliever. It makes things pretty laid back while still being sociable. I like it a lot, but I can see how it would foil your intentions. There is definitely a difference between a314 in spray versus oil. Oil has a slower and longer diffusion, so the effects are a lot more steady. With spray, the effects are stronger in the beginning, but wear off more quickly as the alcohol evaporates. In the spray, there are 2 varieties: version a and version b. B is not as strong as a. A314 should definitely achieve the “I’m alpha, respect me” as well as “Don’t talk too much”. IH should achieve the kind, trustworthy, and understanding. Many people find that a314 on its own has a bit of a harsh edge to it, so IH is a common buffer. Since TUTH has worked for you already, then it’s great that you’ve already found your base to work with. Have you tried pairing TUTH and IH in the mean time? IS…interesting that you’re gonna try this for those particular goals. IS tends to make things bubbly and cheery. You might get talkativeness from her again. It’s not always ideal to use with a314, since it tends to counteract the alpha-ness. A314 says, “give me space”, while IS says, “lets have fun!” But whatever you do, do NOT use IO with a314! IO has been found to be very conflicting with the alpha message. I’m not surprised that [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) didn’t work for you, it’s designed to be social as well as sexual. I’m predicting that a314 + IH will be a successful everyday mix for you, and then you’d want to add TUTH when you’re with your lady. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/5 "2014-02-06T05:58:41Z")
rolandcubed… Thanks for the input.. It’s much appreciated.. I guess you can see how my ideas may be an oxymoron or contradicting or whatever, but I assure you it’s not.. Let me explain… First, I’d like to mention that when using 5 sprays of TUTH with the wife, I’ve seemed to have hit my goal (or gotten quite close) …in other words, she behaved pretty much exactly how I wanted her too, but there was a little lack.. The lack was 2 things… 1. I wanted there to be a much happier and fun vibe. (That’s why I mention IS) 2. I wanted to feel a little more ALPHA. (That’s why I mention A314) Basically, I’ve already got the whole “respect me, desire me, open up to me, but keep your mouth shut about senseless babel, and tell me the sexy things you want me to do to you” vibe down… It took weeks of trial and error to get it but I’m not talking about reaching this level. ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/6 "2014-02-06T05:59:05Z")
Jdub, I bought A314 when it first came out maybe 8-9 years ago when I was still trying to determine if mones worked. I tried it for two weeks with expectations of grand proportions. After two weeks I threw it out. I would put a few drops on and expect magnetic like attraction. I would recommend you try 1 drop per day for a week. That’s 7 days so it includes some week days and weekends. Then take a week off and repeat. You will notice subtle differences between the on and off weeks. The on weeks you will start to break those jeans in and will notice more respect and kindness from strangers and friends. You will start to differentiate between the on and off weeks. Not just the mones affecting people but how A314 affects you when you wear it. If your patient and test it slowly then you’ll get a really good knowledge on its workings and how to test. How to test mones coupled with your behaviour with them. Take it slow and learn the basics . These days there is so much literature that you feel overwhelmed . Get the basics first and the rest will follow. Have to tell you after I read you sprayed 5 sprays of tuth on you. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/7 "2014-02-06T05:59:09Z")
But thanks for biting, rolandcubed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/8 "2014-02-06T06:10:41Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > It’s good that you’re being specific about your aims. Nearly anything is possible with mones, and since you are targeting one specific person rather than a general audience, it should be very achievable for you. > > I can see where p130 didn’t achieve your goal, that one is a lot more of a stress reliever. It makes things pretty laid back while still being sociable. I like it a lot, but I can see how it would foil your intentions. > > There is definitely a difference between a314 in spray versus oil. Oil has a slower and longer diffusion, so the effects are a lot more steady. With spray, the effects are stronger in the beginning, but wear off more quickly as the oil evaporates. In the spray, there are 2 varieties: version a and version b. B is not as strong as a. A314 should definitely achieve the “I’m alpha, respect me” as well as “Don’t talk too much”. > > IH should achieve the kind, trustworthy, and understanding. Many people find that a314 on its own has a bit of a harsh edge to it, so IH is a common buffer. > > Since TUTH has worked for you already, then it’s great that you’ve already found your base to work with. Have you tried pairing TUTH and IH in the mean time? > > IS…interesting that you’re gonna try this for those particular goals. IS tends to make things bubbly and cheery. You might get talkativeness from her again. It’s not always ideal to use with a314, since it tends to counteract the alpha-ness. A314 says, “give me space”, while IS says, “lets have fun!” But whatever you do, do NOT use IO with a314! IO has been found to be very conflicting with the alpha message. > > I’m not surprised that Ammo didn’t work for you, it’s designed to be social as well as sexual. > > I’m predicting that a314 + IH will be a successful everyday mix for you, and then you’d want to add TUTH when you’re with your lady. Thanks Miss Dragon.. 🙂 you answered my questions very well! Now to answer yours… Yes I tried TUTH with IH and oh my!! She got really emotional. One slip of the tongue (mine) and she was all in a bad mood, and wouldn’t accept my apologies or anything. It was a phero disaster, haha. It’s actually quite funny that when I wear socials in public, I get hits from all kinds of women, but from the mrs. the socials are very counter-productive, yet I can be drenched with -none, and it makes it all the better. Haha I guess basically what I was hoping for with the IS was to take the effects I already produced and make the mood a little more fun… See the thing is, I achieved my goal with just the TUTH, but it felt like there was so much Alpha going on that there wasn’t enough “let’s have fun” ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/9 "2014-02-06T06:17:24Z")
Thanks for all the help man. Have to tell you after I read you sprayed 5 sprays of tuth on you. But why did you say this ^ ..all that TUTH worked wonders for me. I think I could even push the envelope, it was awesome!!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/10 "2014-02-06T06:25:44Z")
Oh dear! Emotional is definitely not what you are going for! Did you try adding p130 with the TUTH + IH? I find that p130 really tones down emotions. But I wouldn’t be surprised if you just don’t want to go there after that moody disaster! On one hand, I can understand why TUTH works for your Mrs. TUTH has been described as “Instant Walking Boner”, so not something to use with the general public. But if your wife senses sexuality and arousal from you, she’d interpret that as, “My husband wants me.” And what wife wouldn’t feel good about herself with that? Congrats on finding a non-typical application! Shine doesn’t last as long, and there’s the associated crash, so be mindful when playing with it. But it sounds like you’re on a great track! Go for it, and I wish you the best! ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/11 "2014-02-06T06:54:03Z")
Thanks.. Yeah things are looking up for me with the TUTH. One thing I was intrigued about though is I felt as though it had an alpha effect, more than ever, and this was the first time I went up to 5 sprays. It’s funny you mention the p130, because that one was another that seemed to cause disasters. Except this disaster was a nuclear tongue bomb (and not in a good way), she must have felt it was a good time to tell me everything. The only thing that seemed to counteract all this mayhem was p102. I’m supposed to receive some IS tomorrow so I think I’ll try the 5 of TUTH, with 1 or two of the shine. How long does it take for the crash? ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/12 "2014-02-06T06:57:11Z")
Try half a spray of tuth and see what happens. Unless you are the ketchup king when it comes to your fries. I have had the best experiences with tuth when used correctly . ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/13 "2014-02-06T07:01:21Z")
> [@fishdude](#): > > Try half a spray of tuth and see what happens. Unless you are the ketchup king when it comes to your fries. > > I have had the best experiences with tuth when used correctly . I’ve tried less amounts of TUTH, with other combos too.. And 1 or 2 is good.. But the thing is, when I had 5 on, it was like I was “the man”.. I felt in complete control, like I had her in my crosshairs, she didn’t stand a chance. ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/14 "2014-02-06T07:07:34Z")
Perhaps she has some none tolerance. I’m just speaking form experience . Being a single man , using any tuth is always a ruin. When I see a gf, half spray of tuth and she becomes an animal. Do you have any [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)? It’s a magnifier and dis inhibitor . It will enhance what you have on. Use less tuth with it. And add some TAC. You will get the best breakfast made for you. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/15 "2014-02-06T07:09:18Z")
Wow, sounds like you married a real spitfire! Yeah, I forgot…I once had a “nuclear tongue bomb” experience with p130. Totally isolated, opposite from the usual effects, and I’ve never figured out why it happened. I can only chalk it up to low blood sugar. I was the one losing my cool. P102 is one that I definitely need to do more testing with. My last test made me all spacey and disassociated from my surroundings, so that killed my desire to test it for a while. Definitely please record your experiences with it! The crash happens at different times for different people. It comes as soon as the IS effects wear off, so it’s easy to know the duration of effectiveness. IS has the shortest duration of anything in the consumer line. Some people say it’s taken as long as 4 hours. For me, I think it’s been an average of 2 hours. The shortest it’s ever worked for me was 30 minutes one day, but that was a particularly horrible day anyway. I didn’t even notice the crash, because the whole day was one big crash. The good news is that once you and the lady become acclimated to IS, then you shouldn’t even notice the crash after a while. It’s usually nothing too horrible, anyway. Bit of a headache maybe, tiredness maybe, possibly grumpiness. But it doesn’t even last long. And some people have made it go away with a top-off of IS. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/16 "2014-02-06T07:09:48Z")
Actually I don’t but I’m interested now. So are you saying the p83 will magnify whatever I have on? Also what is the TAC? I haven’t read much about this one.. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/17 "2014-02-06T07:15:02Z")
@Miss Dragon.. Ok I see. Yeah I actually like the p102 a lot. It seems to make life feel better for me. And my sense of smell seems to heighten by a large degree. So when you say the duration of IS is short, does that mean other people won’t be able to feel the effects for long? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/18 "2014-02-06T07:15:36Z")
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is a dis-inhibitor, particularly for women. It will tend to make them more carefree with you, and more likely to act on impulses. Considering your wife’s previous reactions, I’d say to tread lightly. It doesn’t universally magnify whatever you have on, but it would make them more likely to act upon whatever feelings are produced. Not only feelings produced by the mones, but anything they might be feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/19 "2014-02-06T07:34:28Z")
Oh ok, so yeah I got to be careful with that one but I am intrigued. I see p83 mentioned a lot.. Is this one of the more popular dis-inhibitors..? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065/20 "2014-02-06T07:58:46Z")
It’s the most widely recognized one. Possibly the most effective, but that’s for further testing to determine. And yes, the duration of effectiveness is measured by how long it still affects other people. Self-effects can help serve as a marker in determining this, but because your body will adjust to mones a lot more quickly than someone else will, we don’t solely rely on self-effects as an accurate gauge. I haven’t used TAC myself, you’d have to speak to others to get an idea of it. It’s generally talked about in terms of being a relaxer. In this context, it’s been used to help women achieve or intensify orgasm. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-questions-and-others/61065.md?page=2)