# A314 realization **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 23, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670 "2007-03-23T06:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lomu11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a183cd/32.png) [@lomu11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lomu11)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/1 "2007-03-23T06:26:13Z")
I have really realized that A314 cant work if your mood isn’t right. 2 days at work I have been tired, unmotivated and probably a bit negative. I most likely was in that mood before I applied the A314. The whole day on both occasions I kept saying to myself why am I feeling like this and I better do something to snap out of it. Didn’t seem to be able to. But I just felt crappy all day. The days where I really felt it was working I kind of had a really positive attitude from the get go. Really high energy. And I felt charged up and ready to overcome and dominate every situation that could potentially arise. So to me like every other phero you control alot of what impact they have on you. If you are looking for it to magically cure some deficiency or problem or make gold rain from the sky it wont. But if your mind is right and your attitude I have seen good things pop off! ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/2 "2007-03-23T06:32:52Z")
> [@lomu11](#): > > I have really realized that A314 cant work if your mood isn’t right. 2 days at work I have been tired, unmotivated and probably a bit negative. I most likely was in that mood before I applied the A314. The whole day on both occasions I kept saying to myself why am I feeling like this and I better do something to snap out of it. Didn’t seem to be able to. But I just felt crappy all day. > > The days where I really felt it was working I kind of had a really positive attitude from the get go. Really high energy. And I felt charged up and ready to overcome and dominate every situation that could potentially arise. So to me like every other phero you control alot of what impact they have on you. If you are looking for it to magically cure some deficiency or problem or make gold rain from the sky it wont. But if your mind is right and your attitude I have seen good things pop off! That’s pheromone congruency to a tee. Your personality is more important than the pheromone. If you match what you are wearing their effectiveness increases substancialy. I do feel that use of [pheromones](https://a314.com/) over time will help one grow in personality and actions. See if using A314 makes you more of a leader after a time period (even when you don’t use it) It’s done that for me. ---
**Author:** ![lomu11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a183cd/32.png) [@lomu11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lomu11)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/3 "2007-03-23T06:44:03Z")
I’ve already noticed it has made me more of a leader. I do not back down as easily. I’m bolder. I notice I am looking any and everyone dead in the eyes. Which used to be a problem for me in the past. It really is helping me in management. It is true that I have really commited myself to self improvement in so much of my personal life and things of that nature but I am really noticing that A314 even when I am not using it is making me be aware and conscious of my DHV at all times. I stand taller, talk deeper, engage in more conversation and I am loving it. Its been a long process from being a painfully shy little boy to where I am trying to go but I have come a long way. Now people tell me they would have never guessed I was shy. ---
**Author:** ![lomu11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a183cd/32.png) [@lomu11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lomu11)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/4 "2007-03-23T21:33:37Z")
I had on three sprays of A314 on today. I had a great day. In morning meeting I got 2 awards and a glowing report from my manager. Then my superviser gave me the same. Probably the most praise I’ve gotten at one time. That was good. I had a great mindset today. Never got flustered and I had this great energy about me. It was funny. Near the end of the day, 2 of my coworkers kept asking me if I was okay. They kept asking me that. I had to keep reassuring them that I was allright. Couldn’t tell why they were asking me that. That stuff has been good for me. I’m sure I am missing alot of things that are going on but I have seen enough to tell it is doing something ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/5 "2007-03-23T21:44:50Z")
You sure it was A-314? A-314 isn’t a spray product. ---
**Author:** ![lomu11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a183cd/32.png) [@lomu11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lomu11)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/6 "2007-03-23T21:50:45Z")
It came in a sample size when I ordered some other things. It is almost empty now but it’s clearly marked A314 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/7 "2007-03-23T22:20:41Z")
Lomu how much did you apply the day you had bad results with A314? Did you feel a little anti-social? I see a lot of the same when I OD on A314 ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/8 "2007-03-23T22:24:12Z")
this happens to me too, but for different reasons then you i think. But yeah A314 can wear heavily from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![lomu11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a183cd/32.png) [@lomu11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lomu11)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/9 "2007-03-23T22:26:58Z")
I know one day I was really dragging, feeling unmotivated and maybe a little depressed even. I rarely go over 2 sprays. I went with an extra one today and I felt great. Iam going to buy a full size bottle and continue testing it more. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/10 "2007-03-23T22:27:42Z")
> [@Nunya](#): > > this happens to me too, but for different reasons then you i think. But yeah A314 can wear heavily from time to time. Definitely. A314 is something that really needs to play on a subtle level. At an obvious dosage, the effects are a little overbearing. I’m normally pretty laid back and easy going, so when things get too heavy and serious, it doesn’t sit well to me. Might have a lot to do with the aforementioned lack of congruency. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/11 "2007-03-23T22:54:22Z")
> [@lomu11](#): > > It came in a sample size when I ordered some other things. It is almost empty now but it’s clearly marked A314 Look at the fine print under the A314 It should give you an MX number. My sample like that was MX102, but they have some new variations. ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/12 "2007-03-23T23:13:37Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Definitely. A314 is something that really needs to play on a subtle level. At an obvious dosage, the effects are a little overbearing. I’m normally pretty laid back and easy going, so when things get too heavy and serious, it doesn’t sit well to me. Might have a lot to do with the aforementioned lack of congruency. for me I jsut feel like there’s a weight dragging me down. Like mentally and physically. Almost overtired, or like I’m mentally trying to walk in quicksand. I think that’s hormonal tho, since really those aren’t hormones that should be coming from a woman in general. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![lomu11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a183cd/32.png) [@lomu11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lomu11)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/13 "2007-03-24T00:05:21Z")
It was mx102. I didn’t even realize that. Thanks now I’ll research mx102 specifically. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/14 "2007-03-24T00:07:09Z")
> [@lomu11](#): > > It was mx102. I didn’t even realize that. Thanks now I’ll research mx102 specifically. MX102 is the classic variation of A314 in a spray form. Results should be fairly consistent with A314 classic, though there are differences in diffusion between the oil based and alcohol based versions ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/15 "2007-03-24T00:28:19Z")
> [@lomu11](#): > > I have really realized that A314 cant work if your mood isn’t right. 2 days at work I have been tired, unmotivated and probably a bit negative. I most likely was in that mood before I applied the A314. The whole day on both occasions I kept saying to myself why am I feeling like this and I better do something to snap out of it. Didn’t seem to be able to. But I just felt crappy all day. > > The days where I really felt it was working I kind of had a really positive attitude from the get go. Really high energy. And I felt charged up and ready to overcome and dominate every situation that could potentially arise. So to me like every other phero you control alot of what impact they have on you. If you are looking for it to magically cure some deficiency or problem or make gold rain from the sky it wont. But if your mind is right and your attitude I have seen good things pop off! Oil-based A314 does make me kind of subdued when worn all the time at high doses (every day at work). It just seems to be so serious and distancing sometimes. On the other hand, the stuff is indispensable at the office sometimes, gaining you access to high-end people, showing competency without doing much to deserve it, and being seen and feeling like a ‘natural’ leader. With A314 on I feel like I am doing something important even if I am just taking the garbage out. 😃 Now on for my spiel: Yes if you were wearing MX102, the problem may be to do with diffusion you see… This product, being a translation of A314, has a little [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) for a ‘respect’ backbone. There has been some talk on the forum of alcohol spray variations of A314, MX172, [MX102](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and MX134 (the ladies version) for example, causing some mildly negative reactions and [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)-like tension. See the following thread for one example dealing with Instant Gentleman which is based on a similar formula: > [@Instant Gentleman first report: lovely scent, compliments, no clear effects yet](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-report-instant-gentlman/2523): > > :o Progress report for my dealings with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) thus far: Instant Gentle has a lovely scent which I’ve gotten a few compliments on thus far. I’ve only gone out with it six times so far and never with more than 2 sprays, 2 times per night. I haven’t had any conclusive findings with effects on others thus far. Most “scientific studies” for such things are double blind and run at least 30 times. Given that I’m one person who’s not blind at all to this, and that I’m going about it with p… It isn’t a big issue for me but definitely does happen IMHO because some people are just very sensitive to minute amounts of [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). I have felt quite tense and aggressive myself at times when applying standard amounts of [MX102](https://pheromonelabs.com/) or MX172 twice-a-day everyday at work. Basically the minute amounts of [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) in the formula may be a problem occassionally because of fast diffusion in an alcohol spray format as opposed to oil-based A314. [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) sticks to the skin as well like no other pheromone so build up is quite possible if applying say twice a day. Here are some more threads dealing with this issue: > [@MX134 - Me LIKE! ^\_^](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx134-me-like-_/1206): > > So..I have just had my first experience of using MX134 - the A314 for ladies, and I think I am going to like this very much. I had a few things to get out to people before Christmas, and near the Uni, there is a combined grocer’s/sub-post-office, which I use for convenience. Now, the girl who co-owns this shop makes Sad Sam look like Happy Harry on a GOOD day, and I don’t like dealing with her, as her truculence and unwillingness to help, are really a downer and a pain in the backside to be ho… chirimoya: “Ok anyone else experience grumpiness with [MX134](https://pheromonelabs.com/)? I want to like it but I’m beginning to think every time I wear it I get the grumps a bit. Maybe it’s just coincidence but I dunno… ☹” [Mx172-173](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398) Sunny: “…I am ususally most successful with a maximum of 2 sprays of MX172 (from the big bottle). When I recently had a long meeting with a superior, I got the impression that I ODed for the first time with just 2 spays. He reacted negatively (not trusting, protective) as if I was wearing [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). Fortunately I had an other meeting with him, this time only using one spray of MX172 and 5 sprays of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) double strength. Things improved dramatically into a direction of bonding and friendship. Fascinating!..” [MX102 is definitely ‘edgier’ than A314](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-is-definitely-edgier-than-a314/1170) Sunny: "Visionary, I agree. I used to be a big fan of oil based products, until recently, when I realized that the alcohol based spray gives much more ‘edge’ to A314. But my concerns are the same: You need to reapply much more and since the andorostenone sticks to the skin, this will add up quicker than with the oil version. What we need is a second “refresher” bottle with a different formula, with less of the longer lasting pheromones." ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/16 "2007-03-24T00:41:00Z")
I thought A314 had no androstenone in it? Just androsterone. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/17 "2007-03-24T01:02:27Z")
A314 definitely has a little amount of Androste **none** in there but is predominantly Androste **rone** with a number of other components (the latest version includes a total of 16 pheromones I do believe). Michael Harris from Androtics has posted on the problems of using -Rone alone and why a little -None needs to be added to it (see below)… > [@Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolutionary-psychology-rone-men-and-none-men/19/7): > > I know what you mean. Rone by itself has some serious issues. I tried more closely to formulate the new A314 to the James Bond character (I’m sure it was in the back of my mind previously, too). The experimental mix that ended up being A314, the one that “made it” in the tests, was based along the lines of something like a transmogrification of 80/20 principle… except the 80% part really does do something. The 20% wouldn’t exist as effectively without the 80%. Nonetheless, that 80% part is sa… MHarris: "I know what you mean. Androsterone by itself has some serious issues. I tried more closely to formulate the new A314 to the James Bond character (I’m sure it was in the back of my mind previously, too). The experimental mix that ended up being A314, the one that “made it” in the tests, was based along the lines of something like a transmogrification of 80/20 principle… except the 80% part really does do something. The 20% wouldn’t exist as effectively without the 80%. Nonetheless, that 80% [Androsterone] part is safe, perhaps too safe. That’s where the other 20% comes in to play, and IMHO, is essential. I would never use Androsterone completely alone. It has some serious downsides. I’ve never liked the effects I’ve gotten from wearing Androsterone alone…" > [@MX102 experimental A314 mix 1: early user experiences, no effect yet, dosing tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-mix-1/521/29): > > Androstenol not being sexual, depends on how you look at it. I think it is “indirectly” sexual. For instance, ANY pheromone is the end result of hormone metabolism. Therefore, ANY pheromone acts as an exogenous marker of hormone metabolism. i.e., the more pheromones you use, of any kind, the more you’re saying to other people “hey, my body makes lots of hormones” That is indirectly sexual, as it indicates good health, and good health as indicated by hormone and pheromone output often goes h… MHarris: “…A314 is highly refined -rone] that doesn’t put out the “Walk all over Me, I’m Mr. Rogers” type prescence that Androsterone alone can sometimes do on some men.” ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/18 "2007-03-24T01:06:43Z")
_lol_ @ walk over me I’m Mister Rogers! Hello boys and girls! do you like my new cardigan? ok - lemme stop. That’s good to know tho. I wonder which phero in the mix drags me down at some times of the month. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-realization/2670/19 "2007-03-24T04:15:32Z")
I’m playing with an AndrosteRone/AndrostAnone/AndrostEnone mix, but won’t have a clear space to test it until late May … I’m not going to experiment with this mix at work, heh.