# A314+Turn Up The Heat Reviews **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 2, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429 "2008-06-02T22:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/1 "2008-06-02T22:38:47Z")
Hey guys, I’m looking into getting some A314 and maybe some Turn Up The Heat to go along with it, but would like some reviews before I make my purchase. I’ve searched google quite a bit, but came up with nothing. So if you guys could give me your opinions on this Mixture of products and each one alone if possible would be great. Thank’s for any help. P.S. I’ve tried Pherlure and found no effect so I hope these work better! ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/2 "2008-06-02T22:59:25Z")
Great Name!😃 First welcome to pherotalk!!! If you’ll post an introduction in the “introductions” section of the forum you’ll get a nice juicy gift cert and all the advice you can handle. Now some quickie advice on the forum, I’m not complaining here, all questions are welcome, but there is a search button at the top of page. A314 and TUTH are very popular products and much has been written. I’m an old goat and don’t know much about google but I say try searching here for something like ‘A314; +tuth’ without the apostrophes. I think they’re both great by the way. Now for some phero advice. I’d guess you want something to bring all the girls screaming to their knees begging you for your body. Not gonna happen. So here’s the deal. Read this thread- > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati… Then order IG, IH and Ishine. The IG will give you nice manly vibe that doesn’t come off as too pervy on young guys. IH will give you an aura of being a guy that’s easy to connect with, and Ishine will give a slightly sexy fun happening vibe. Use each one for at least a week by itself. Read some other threads like the men’s sticky’s. You’ll also find some good stuff buried in the signatures of frequent posters. 🙄 Have fun and don’t forget to get that gift cert! PS. if Bosshank shows up and something tells me he will, listen to him! ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/3 "2008-06-02T23:09:22Z")
Ah thank you very much, I had actually been looking for that search button but couldn’t find it (it was late at night okay!), and no I’m not looking to have girls begging for me (well I am, but that’s not what I’m expecting), I’ve done my research 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/4 "2008-06-02T23:10:48Z")
How do you suggest Ammunition as a sort of in between? ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/5 "2008-06-02T23:56:19Z")
Ammo is what I always recommend to people 24 and under when they first come into the sacred knowledge. 😉. The reason is because TUTH is a primarily androstenone product, and at your age, you’re producing quite a bit in your body’s natural chemistry. The chances of an OD are very real, and while we’ll usually suggest one good OD to see what happens, you don’t want your first experience to be that way. Ammo has the same amount of androstenone in it as TUTH, but it also has two additional [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) that buffer it, which greatly reduces the OD chance. So, every time I see one of you young stallions bucking up and rearing to go with the full strength of TUTH, I’m one of the first to say “Whoooaa! Try Ammo instead. 😉” A key thing to remember with pheromones is “More is not necessarily better.” Get a to-go of 1x strength Ammo and use two sprays with two drops of A314 and you’re golden. Let us know how it goes! -D4 ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/6 "2008-06-02T23:59:22Z")
I just got a ToGo bottle AMMO and 1 of IS, is this a good combination? I figured I would just try these two out at first since this is really my first trial and I didn’t want to fork over the 70 bucks quite yet for the A314. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/7 "2008-06-03T00:02:21Z")
> [@Redundancy](#): > > How do you suggest Ammunition as a sort of in between? Not as a first product for a guy your age…and that’s just my opinion from reading a lot of posts by guys your age. It’s a cologne and the thing I see most often is “I don’t want to be the cologne guy” whatever that is. Next it has androstenone which you’ve already read is not the easiest [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) to deal with esp. for guys under their early 20’s. None of this is to suggest that you won’t get what you want from any of these products. It’s just that it takes some time and some skills to do it right and I think those are good for young guys to start with. Be on the lookout for a guy named Eldros. He seems to be the most successful high schooler we’ve had around here. Bond007 is another young guy who is having a lot of fun here. They are both slightly older than you and at your age a year or two make lightyears of difference. Just by being here you got yourself a jumpstart on everybody else…don’t blow it by being in a hurry. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/8 "2008-06-03T00:05:36Z")
Yeah, Ammo + IShine is a very good combo. There was even a special mix of Ammo and IShine in one container that Androtics used to sell. A314 is pretty expensive, but I think it’s worth every penny. Plus, a 10 ml bottle lasts me a long time. Much longer than a 30 ml spray bottle of the other stuff. For a nice cheaper alternative, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is worth looking into. Renny is more of an expert in the stuff than me, as I just received my first bottle today. Everything I’ve read about it makes it seem like an A314-lite. Also, another thing to keep in mind, and something else we recommend to newcomers is to try your products separately first to get a feel for them. IShine and Ammo both are good in social situations, with Ammo having a more sexual (but not in-your-face sexual like TUTH) angle. Go out a couple of nights with just 2 shots of IShine and see what happens. Do the same with Ammo and compare. Patience is definitely a virtue when it comes to pheromones. The more you learn early on, the better things will go later, when you start to experiment with test mixes and putatives. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/9 "2008-06-03T00:08:09Z")
Well I just stepped all over my old pal Data4. Didn’t mean to do that…anyway there are other opinions than mine that are equally valid. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and Ishine are a great pair of products and you should do well with them. Most important think of this a great fun experiment and enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/10 "2008-06-03T00:11:37Z")
Heya, Renny! So, in your opinion, even 1x Ammo in limited amounts is too much for a 17 year old? I guess it could be, especially if he’s physically active. I do agree with you on the socials you suggested. There’s a lot of stuff going on in a mid-late teen’s body that can make things confusing as all hell, and if nothing else, a good social vibe can take the edge off things. Redundancy, do listen to Renny. He’s got some good points. Plus he likes Bob Barr, who sadly, doesn’t stand a chance in hell of winning, but that’s for a different discussion in a different forum. 😉 -D4 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/11 "2008-06-03T00:23:26Z")
Data4, I think AMMO is great for young guys. The 2 reasons I cautioned against it are just from seeing a lot of young guys posts. You actually have more experience than I do with -none products, I just tend to recommend my faves. ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/12 "2008-06-03T00:28:04Z")
Okay, again thanks a lot for all the help guys, this seems to be a great forum, would it be okay to wear some of my cologne over the pheromones? I know that it was OK to do that with pherlure, so I’ll assume the same for AMMO and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), but just want to make sure! ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/13 "2008-06-03T00:34:15Z")
Ammo is a cologne product, so the smell is going to be a little more intense than the light neroli used in the others. I’ve heard that it smells like Hugo Boss or Acqua di Gio. I’ve never smelled those, but to me it smells exactly like Unforgivable by Sean John. Since you already have it, you know what I mean. Cologne doesn’t take away from the pheros effectiveness, and can enhance it by helping the molecules diffuse around you. The main thing you’ll have to consider with Ammo is how well the fragrances blend. Renny, again, good point. I guess my suggestions are based more on theory, but anecdotal experiences describe actual experiences and are just as valuable. I guess the best advice is what you originally said about searching. Plus, as Boortz would say (And I just KNOW you’re familiar with him. 😉) “Never believe anything I say. Always research it for yourself.” -D4 ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/14 "2008-06-03T00:34:30Z")
Yes, I want to echo what data4 has to say. A314 is an outstanding product, “worth every penny.” Ammo and Shine are very popular products, too, and they work well in combination for a lot of men. But there are a minority of people who don’t care for one or the other of them. When you can afford it give A314 a try – regardless of your experience with Ammo and IS. I am three times you’re age and still find Ammo a little bit agressive, so be very careful at first about ODing on it. The Instant Shine will help to balance it. To me it seems like having the youth of seventeen and the respect of A314 would be paradise. Don’t cheap out and get [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). IG is a good product, but you want ot try A314 next. Trust me on that. Then experiment with IO and/or IH. ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/15 "2008-06-03T00:37:49Z")
Okay will do, A314 was what actually got me interested in all this, I figured it wasn’t right for my age though, I suppose I was incorrect, I’ll give it a try, maybe over the summer when I get some more money. Gotta save up my Money for a new computer 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/16 "2008-06-03T17:14:56Z")
> [@Redundancy](#): > > Okay will do, A314 was what actually got me interested in all this, I figured it wasn’t right for my age though, I suppose I was incorrect, I’ll give it a try, maybe over the summer when I get some more money. Gotta save up my Money for a new computer 🙂 Redundancy, I guess we’re overloading you with conflicting advice. All of Androtics products work well and you’ll decide which ones you like best and work best with your personality and chemistry. D4’s Neil Boortz quote is quite apt here. Check 'em out yourself, Ammo and Ishine are a great start…don’t forget to go after that gift certificate, you’ll want it pretty soon I bet! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-turn-up-the-heat-reviews/13429/17 "2008-06-03T18:11:01Z")
You are 17 so you might not care about A314 just yet… (just an assumption) Rather go for ammo + instant openness and probably instant shine as your first products. (I didnt have a lot of luck with instant shine, but thats because I got a togo bottle and a lot of it leaked. couldnt test it enough) By the time you are ready for your second order… you probably have read enough around here to make your own judgments.