# A314 vs IG at 18: clubs vs social use, and can IO or IShine soften A314? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 2, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256 "2010-05-02T03:33:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![celerytree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@celerytree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celerytree)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/1 "2010-05-02T03:33:05Z")
I’m new to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and I was just looking for some more opinions regarding A314 and IG. I’m assuming A314 is better for environments like clubs and IG is more socially acceptable? Do things like IO or IShine help to negate some of the negative effects (i.e. intimidation) of A314 in social settings? If it helps, I’m 18. ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/2 "2010-05-02T03:42:00Z")
> [@celerytree](#): > > Do things like IO or IShine help to negate some of the negative effects (i.e. intimidation) of A314 in social settings? If it helps, I’m 18. Yes they most certainly do. Your other question im unable to answer, as I have neither product. And thats too close of a question to really answer without personal experience. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/3 "2010-05-02T03:51:47Z")
Haven’t tried IG myself but I love A314. Given a lot of forum members feedback IG sounds like a kinder gentler A314. Most of the posts I’ve read make it sound like IG is just a good all around product for being seen as a mature, solid reliable guy that’s easy to like. I would think that means it could be just as effective in a club as in a work environment. Again not having tried IG to compare I get the impression that neither is really better per say, but A314 is harder for some people to work with, hits are subtle and cumulative, and carrying the product requires congruent action on your part. I dove right in with A314 it took a while for me to notice the effects but they are there and have been stacking up. In all honesty I think I’d have had an easier time with A314 had I started with other products in the line first and gotten a sense of noticing the differences in various products effects. In either case I’d say you could use IG and will probably have an easier time working with it to start before trying A314. I suggest getting a togo of IG as soon as it’s available and use two sprays a day and monitor the effects on people around you then consider moving up to A314 ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/4 "2010-05-02T03:52:34Z")
Rad we’re like a team on here lol. Whatcha all got on the A-Team?!! ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/5 "2010-05-02T03:56:50Z")
lol I like trying to help, I picked up a lot since joining but I have a lot more to learn. I’m actually interested in trying as many products as I can and recording/reporting the effects. Hell I’m even considering trying [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A and B just to see what the effects are if a guy wears womens mones. (actually I’m secretly plotting on converting lesbians to very confused but pliant bisexuals) I’m sure there is a mix that will enable me to accomplish my nefarious scheme. ---
**Author:** ![celerytree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@celerytree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celerytree)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/6 "2010-05-02T04:00:07Z")
Bahahaha… pliant bisexuals. Thanks for the input! I think I’ll start with some IG once they restock, then move to A314 sometime later ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/7 "2010-05-02T04:48:46Z")
> [@celerytree](#): > > I’m assuming A314 is better for environments like clubs and IG is more socially acceptable? Do things like IO or IS help to negate some of the negative effects (i.e. intimidation) of A314 in social settings? If it helps, I’m 18. I wouldn’t recommend A314 as a standalone for socializing or dating. It’s authoritative and standoffish as in “I’m the friggen big kahuna boss man.” Do you want to hang at the club with your father, a police officer or mean-ass boss from work? Sure you’re respectful and polite when they’re around but you try to move on ASAP. A314 is ideal for work environments where you have some authority but are not getting as much cooperation and respectful communication as you’d like, e.g., young manager with peers working under you. Sure you can tame it with socials but then IG would be a better choice as you get a mellower mature vibe without appearing to be “the man.” ---
**Author:** ![celerytree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@celerytree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celerytree)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/8 "2010-05-02T04:57:05Z")
Oh, I would definitely be using A314 with something else. Using it as a standalone didn’t even cross my mind. From what I’ve read, IS, IO, and IH seem to go well with a lot of things. For my first order, I was thinking about getting [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) FF22 + IS + IH to use together (will be getting IO once they restock). Do you have any helpful suggestions regarding these three? ---
**Author:** ![Asus28](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/asus28/32/1719_2.png) [@Asus28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Asus28)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/9 "2010-05-02T04:57:30Z")
Can A314 and IG be mixed with good results? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/10 "2010-05-02T05:05:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Do you have any helpful suggestions regarding these three? Why were some of the suggestions unhelpful? Test each product individually, noticing reactions so you can find the optimal dose and which products work for you. Once you have a baseline of knowledge for individual products, you’re ready to start testing combos. Everybody has different body chemistry, persona and goals, so what works great for one guy may be a total bust for another. Running careful trials initially makes for successful results later. A beginner applying multiple products at once is a recipe for failure. ---
**Author:** ![celerytree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@celerytree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celerytree)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/11 "2010-05-02T05:09:38Z")
Sorry, I wasn’t implying unhelpfulness at all! And I think I’ll take your advice on trying one at a time ---
**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/12 "2010-05-02T13:39:13Z")
> [@celerytree](#): > > Sorry, I wasn’t implying unhelpfulness at all! And I think I’ll take your advice on trying one at a time I would have to slightly disagree about A314 in clubs - I have used it extensively in clubs as a standalone, with instant honesty and with a dab of -none, it provides an outstanding base and certainly helps attract high quality women. In my experience, the product screams “I have class, sophistication and am successful” - women love that shit. Of course, everyone is different and the complexity of this product affects people in different ways. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/13 "2010-05-02T14:33:23Z")
> [@celerytree](#): > > I’m new to pheromones and I was just looking for some more opinions regarding A314 and IG. I’m assuming A314 is better for environments like clubs and IG is more socially acceptable? Do things like IO or IS help to negate some of the negative effects (i.e. intimidation) of A314 in social settings? If it helps, I’m 18. IG is definitely not for a club, esp if you are not authorative… Have you ever been to one? Nice guys don’t belong there!!! 🙄 Most guys there all dress nice and act tough… You might get away with A314, but certainly not cool with IG… Go with AMMO + TUTH! Besides most girls there aren’t looking for bf’s… either they get caught up in their emotions and might go for one nighter or flake on you as soon as you call 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/14 "2010-05-02T18:57:53Z")
huh, you think so? I thought Ig would be great for a club! simply because it make’s you alot cooler, and way smoother ig and some tuth would be how’d I’d take it sensually sexual is how that would go. but these are just my thoughts, I’ve never tried it ---
**Author:** ![Lacosteboy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lacosteboy/32/1661_2.png) [@Lacosteboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lacosteboy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/15 "2010-05-02T20:02:05Z")
my girlfriend smelt IG and she told me to do not wear it agan cuz it had the same smell as her father hahahah ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-ig-at-18-clubs-vs-social-use-and-can-io-or-ishine-soften-a314/38256/16 "2010-05-02T21:00:58Z")
oh wow… thats gross 🙂