# A314 worth the current price?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 24, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578 "2010-06-24T17:03:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![myonlyone13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/myonlyone13/32/854_2.png) [@myonlyone13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/myonlyone13)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/21 "2010-06-24T19:47:52Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Ask anyone who has been using this for a while. This is worth more than 155 for the 15ml bottle that they are currently offering this for. I will say it again and again that I will pay for this no matter what because I use this every day for work and it has paid dividends in my sales.
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> 15ml should last you 6-9 months, based on two drops a day 5 days a week.

Yeah see I don’t do sales I just work for a small IT company so I wouldn’t really have to use this all that often. I would only use it if I was meeting with a client (which isn’t often) or just going out to parties, hanging out with friends, etc. So more than likely I would be just using this for going out and hanging out.

Thanks for your input though man I’ve seen on these forums a bunch of posts with people in sales that says this stuff rocks.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/22 "2010-06-24T19:54:13Z")

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> [@myonlyone13](#):
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> Yeah see I don’t do sales I just work for a small IT company so I wouldn’t really have to use this all that often. I would only use it if I was meeting with a client (which isn’t often) or just going out to parties, hanging out with friends, etc. So more than likely I would be just using this for going out and hanging out.
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> Thanks for your input though man I’ve seen on these forums a bunch of posts with people in sales that says this stuff rocks.

I would buy MX347 then

It’s the spray version of A314, and I think its only like 35 bucks right now. So for tactical uses, this would probably work best for you while maintaining a cost effective aspect for your mone purchases.

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**Author:** ![myonlyone13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/myonlyone13/32/854_2.png) [@myonlyone13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/myonlyone13)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/23 "2010-06-24T19:58:10Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> I would buy MX347 then
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> It’s the spray version of A314, and I think its only like 35 bucks right now. So for tactical uses, this would probably work best for you while maintaining a cost effective aspect for your mone purchases.

Cool thanks man. Whats the difference between spray and oil’s by the way? Just how long it lasts after putting it on?

I’m also kind of confused maybe you can explain this to me. How do you know what each of the MX / P products do? Is there a list some where or a tut to show me what each one has in it / effects?

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/24 "2010-06-24T20:01:06Z")

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Ok for sales it’s awesome, especially if used with instant honesty.  
While ammo is the more sexual attraction based product A314 raises your perceived value…there’s no such thing as “out of you’re league”.  
Even if not in sales, it creates a more dominant, authoritarian vibe so if being respected and listened to at work matters to you…then its worth it.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/25 "2010-06-24T20:11:14Z")

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> [@myonlyone13](#):
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> Cool thanks man. Whats the difference between spray and oil’s by the way? Just how long it lasts after putting it on?
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> I’m also kind of confused maybe you can explain this to me. How do you know what each of the MX / P products do? Is there a list some where or a tut to show me what each one has in it / effects?

For your first question:  
**Venue:** Work place, after work events (bars)  
**Temps:** 70-75, Low Humidity at times 90 + High humidity  
**Pheromones Used:** MX347 (1-2 sprays) , [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) (2-4 drops)  
**Reapplication:** None  
**Self Effects:**

- **MX347:** For those who have used [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) , imagine speeding up the feelings you get of being alpha. MX297 like rush, not as strong, but more confidence.
- **A314:** Basic long-term effects noticed from [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) . Gradual buildup of alpha like feeling.  
**Effects on Others:**

**- MX347** : Instant hit, almost finding out that a boss you haven’t met yet just revealed themselves to you after you performed a job function that you’re judged at in front of them. Like a previously unknown authoritative figure just shows up in front of you out of no where.  
**- A314** : Slow gradual effect. People who know you notice something different, people who don’t sense an aura of authoritativeness.

During my testing, so the bias from changing a pheromone signature too radically wouldn’t skew the results, I applied two sprays of MX347 to my neck about 20 minutes before I met with a big client and topped it with a refreshed of 2x IS to keep the same pheromone signature I typically wear. MX347 won’t hit intended recipients like MX297 will. (Imagine energizer bunny, then getting that power boost) Same animal, just faster speed. Using this would be practical if you want to establish dominance quick and fast, your body language, perception have to be top notch to get the best results from this. This is geared more towards sales people, managers, and people that are in authority situations or are trying to move into those positions. This hits hard and this hits fast, you HAVE to look the part, talk the part, and act the part when you’re using this. Those three parts also have to fit together like a precision machine. You will get great results from this.

**Downsides:**  
You won’t get these results on a consistent basis (timed relase). This for the full effect should be used for interactions that you know you need to make a quick impact on. **The time for full effect comes at the maximum (from what I noticed) an hour AT MOST, in a climate controlled environment. If you’re outside, I would say 30 minutes.** I buffer with Instant Shine because of my physical build. I’m younger, and leaner, and more proportioned than my counterparts. **It helps portray that you are the leader of the pack when you look, act, and dress better than the others. If you don’t, then something will tell your target that something doesn’t seem right, you might be put in the same category as a “used car salesman”.**

The good side is that if you need to go to an environment immediately after work that needs to be less threatening (Date, out with co workers, meet with friends) then it’s gone within 4-5 hours, you might have lingering effects like 2-3 drops of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) at the end of the day, but that’s easily covered by any socials that you have. I always bring a To-Go with me just incase. I also have MX297 on hand ready and rockin to go since that won’t change your sig too much in an after work environment when you’re out with co-workers/managers.

The good part is that you can transition back to your normal [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) base/mix after you have that big event or meeting past you. You never know if you’re going to need a quick hard hitting signature because people you may not know might be there to observe you and you need to results faster, and people who are used to that signature will just sense you are more dominant and alpha and attribute that to the situation, not only will you have congruence with yourself but you will also have congrunece with your audience/co-workers in the end.

For the second question:

MX’s are [experimental pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/experimental-pheromones/) mixes that either AD or other users have come up with to test. You can find reports on many of the MX’s out there like MX301, MX297, MX330, MX292, etc. You can also do the same with the P (Putatives). Putatives are single molecules believe to act like pheromones. For example, AMMO has three known pheromones in there, for this purposes lets call them P1, P2, P3. Each “P” is a single molecule and pheromone experts have creatively crafted ratio’s and mixes based on what each “P” does to create the consumer product. Now, how these are supposed to be used is that you experiment with each and know that there may or may not be results for you. This is the whole point of the experimental mixes, there are no guarantees for it. This also goes the same for the Putatives, they don’t know what they do until there have been enough evidence to gague how effective each P is. You can search the forum and find descriptions on how these things work, but you would be missing out on the discovery out there.

For your benefit, (this is completely your decision), many suggest that you find out what each consumer line product does before venturing out, this would just give you a better understanding of the putatives or MX’s. _For example; P221 (Made up number), this P has the calming effects of Product A, and it also seems to enhance -none responses like an amped up TUTH, this happens between 5mcg to 7.5 mcg. I tried using this at 15mcg as a standalone and I was getting a beta nol/erone vibes when it comes down to this._ This is how reporting would be done on this, and you can compare notes with others and then discuss the options and uses for it. I’ve gotten a pretty good handle on most of the core pheromones so I’m going to venture out and find out exactly how well P’s would work out in my daily testing. Hope this helps.

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**Author:** ![myonlyone13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/myonlyone13/32/854_2.png) [@myonlyone13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/myonlyone13)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/26 "2010-06-24T20:43:03Z")

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Wow thanks for the information. This defiantly helps me a lot more in my decision and understanding.

I have a pretty good understanding of how the consumer products work, at least how people see you and how you should feel. I just need to do some experimenting of my own for a little while longer but was just curious about that.

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/27 "2010-06-24T21:29:54Z")

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Is A314 worth it? That’s a good, honest question. The answer is a big emphatic YES!

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**Author:** ![Redstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bbce88/32.png) [@Redstone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redstone)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/28 "2010-06-24T21:48:54Z")

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My first thoughts would be NO. Why not bring back the old version of A314 that ended up over at LS? Wasnt that less expensive to make? Frankly I prefered it anyway.

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**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/29 "2010-06-24T21:53:22Z")

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LS has been out for a long while, it’s not even there anymore… Didn’t they just buy a batch from here and resell it?

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**Author:** ![Redstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bbce88/32.png) [@Redstone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redstone)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/30 "2010-06-24T22:04:21Z")

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> [@hillke](#):
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> LS has been out for a long while, it’s not even there anymore… Didn’t they just buy a batch from here and resell it?

Not sure when they ran out because I was fully stocked up last summer and am back now because its time to restock. I am a consumer, not a cutting edge tester. Dont have the ability to pick up on subtle hits or creative writing skills to contribute the write way. When I purchased it from LS last year, they were being supplied with the classic version that was a different formula. It was discribed as less social and more Im the boss.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/31 "2010-06-24T22:35:57Z")

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I’m sorry if this comes out wrong and I know this is a forum where typed words can be misconstruted.

If you don’t believe A314 is worth the money, they just simply not purchase it. There are plenty of people that are willing to pay this much for the product. It’s just been that good for many people and we’ve said that this is worth a lot more than what AD is offering it for.

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**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/32 "2010-06-24T23:27:34Z")

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I have to say that I have used it for over a year now. Is it worth it? HELL YES!!! It is my favorite phero product that is available. It truly does improve so many aspects of my life. I wear it everyday. To work, the store, really no matter where I am going I have it on. I love to make my own mixes and have a large collection of Putatives and all of the Instant line. For most products if I were told that celebrities and CEOs wore it, I would have to call bullshit. For A314 I could not imagine them NOT wearing it. If you do not like the price then wear a spray or make your own mix. You will end up spending the same if not more money on other stuff that works ok. That choice is up to you. That being said… I am glad I have purchased 5 bottles before the price change. LOL

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/33 "2010-06-25T00:39:37Z")

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Is there any alternatives to A314??  
I have seen other [pheromone oil](https://a314.com/product-category/oil-pheromones/) products out there but to be honest with you it seems abit “scamish”. Would love to hear other peoples input

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/34 "2010-06-25T00:43:19Z")

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My last bottle of A314 was bought at teh lower 69 dolars price. From that bottle i got about 140 drops or doses which i seud. From that usage I closed over 387 sales netting me over 5 grand in commission all in one week. So is A314 worth it hell yes. The women treat me like a god that tells them what to do and they do it. No more long drawn pout question and swer perios. They ask me what they should do. The Men defer to my opinion and accept recommendations more readily that if i did not use A314. So yepper it is worth it. I love the stuff

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/35 "2010-06-25T05:10:38Z")

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lol wow, i’ve been checking the prices for my friend. they raised them!

its 109 instead of 99 for the 10 and the 5ml upgrade went from 30 to 55.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-worth-the-current-price/39578/36 "2010-06-25T08:59:55Z")

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Androtics are very transparent regarding their current financial situation, and we all appreciate that. We all have been waiting for months for them to restock A314 and our many other favorite pheros.  
We all trust Androtics and know they are doing their best to provide us with the best pheros in the market.

But I was afraid that they would be tempted to lower the quality, go for some cheap chinese molecules, like other phero providers are doing, in order to override their current situation.

Fortunately, instead of lowering their costs, they chose to increase some prices. Personally, this is something that I definitely approve. I know what I am paying for, I am happy with the quality of their products and with their top notch customer service, and I will keep supporting them as long as they are doing their best.

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