# A314ers Does SIZE Matter **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [September 7, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463 "2010-09-07T19:30:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/1 "2010-09-07T19:30:04Z")
Just gave a newbie some advice saying without thinking beforehand that his body size may affect how much A314 he can use. I was thinking along the lines that he may have an intimidating presence and A314 would amplify that. With myself I have probably the least bit intimidating presence on the face of the earth and that’s why while wearing A314 my physical appearance balances my use (in any amounts) **Any thoughts!?!?!** Probably could have searched this beforehand and still will. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/2 "2010-09-07T20:46:20Z")
Interesting. But will, like you think, alot of -rone compensate for not having a big intimidating body ; less -rone compensate for having a big intimidating body ? OR Will adding alot of -rone (at least to much) to a small guy send out a non-congruent signal, like a large guy without any -rone ? ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/3 "2010-09-07T21:34:34Z")
Never thought of this thank you for bringing it up I think this might compensate for the fact that I’m not that intimidating until someone tries to touch me definitly will help alot in my daily life. In my opinion it shouldn’t send out incongruent signals but I don’t know that much yet. Ps. 69th post.. yes I know I’m immature 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/4 "2010-09-08T00:14:58Z")
I don’t think size matters at all if you have the right attitude and the ability to back it up. There’s a thing called command presence and one of the dating gurus on David D’s interviews was discussing this. An officer knows when he has this command presence when he can walk into a shower on a brand new base no clothes on at all and get called sir. Look at football coaches who are at times half the size of the guys that they’re in a sense “bullying.” They have the ability to lead, and intimidate if necessary without concern of getting their asses kicked. I’m only 5’6 1/2, which some may consider short, I am overweight, and in my mid 40’s. I had a young punk kind of mouth off to me the other day, wouldn’t leave the store in fact made comments implying a physical threat, then I just walked right up to him and got within inches of him, needless to say he left. I think part of the reason is when I get into fights, which I have in my youth, I go in not worrying about getting hurt, this fearlessness has given me the ability to intimidate much bigger guys than me. Now to get back to the whole A314 thing and size. I don’t want to be a bully, I don’t want to intimidate people. So I temper my mixes with socials and attraction mones. I want people to respect me for my inner strength, knowing that I bring stability to their world, a foundation to build on, to trust and lead them through difficult times. I look at a guy like Paul Sr on American Choppers. This is a biker guy who a lot of people would call Alpha. But I don’t see that. He’s a huge beta pussy who uses his size, and inability to control his temper as a way to bully people. He whines, and cries, bitches and moans and throw temper tantrums like a little girl going through puberty. They walk in fear that he might flip a switch. Now a guy like Vinnie, or Rick, who just seemingly let things roll off their shoulders as if to say, “Oh well, that’s life.” Those are guys who have the inner strength to handle their issues in a proper way that leaves people to focus on what they said instead of their behavior. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/5 "2010-09-08T03:24:48Z")
Alpha and size are irrelevant and quite honestly it can be easier to pull off for the ones you least expect it from. How many politicians in Washington have massive pecs or ripped abs? Does Donald Trump look like a chippendales dancer? Picture a 5’8" OLD Italian guy in an expensive suit and you might think he’s a pushover, then you see a guy so big he could scare a gorilla get down on one knee and kiss the little guys ring and you know to steer clear of him. Alpha is a social status achieved by leadership and charisma, not true force. The president probably couldn’t stand toe to toe with a second string HS football player, but at his command Marine Force Recon, Navy SEALS, Rangers, Green Berets, Stealth Bombers, Nuclear Subs and TOP GUN pilots fight, kill and die. Mafia Bosses as individuals are rarely impressive physical specimens but some of the most cold blooded and ruthless killers in the world pledge their allegiance to them. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/6 "2010-09-08T12:04:55Z")
thought I’d give some perspective on this from a bigger guy 🙂 I am a pretty ominous guy physically to some people. 6’4 - 220 confident but not prickish… I can command a room when I need to, but often just kind of let things be unless something bothers me. Honestly I don’t think my size has anything to do with it, in fact when I was much less alpha and less intimidating I was bigger. And in my days the guys I’ve always been most intimidated by myself have been smaller guys whose power and confidence seem to come out of the woodwork… those are the guys to look out for 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/7 "2010-09-08T14:34:55Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > **How many politicians in Washington have massive pecs or ripped abs?** > **Does Donald Trump look like a chippendales dancer?** I was surprised the first time Ned Flanders was featured shirtless on the Simpsons, so you never know…Groundskeeper Willie too, for that matter. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/8 "2010-09-08T15:24:53Z")
Great thread. I have a friend who is actually on here that isn’t very tall at all. i think he may be 5’6" 150 something pounds. When we were in the Marines together he made a 6’2" 250lb guy cry while he was talking to him. He didn’t even yell. When I was in bootcamp the scariest drill instructor we had was maybe 5’8 150lbs. You could feel him walk in the room even if you didn’t hear or see him. He dominated the room. He wasn’t a peaceful alpha. He wasn’t necessarily a bully, but he wasn’t peaceful either. He didn’t look for fights he just expected the world to turn in the direction that he was walking. For the most part he kept his cool, but when he exploded I swear hell erupted from where he was standing. Funny thing is that he kept his cool the entire time he was exploding. It was like the world ripped apart around him and he was just standing there. I guess you can say that he left an impression. The day we graduated he was just as relaxed as can be. Like he hadn’t spent the last 3 months beating the shit out of us. ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/9 "2010-09-08T18:40:09Z")
I understand what everyone is saying by their examples. My point was more like if someone showed you two pictures one of a tall lanky guy with no muscles(me) and a 300lb offensive lineman who would you say your more likely to avoid(without any variables)!?!?!? If your scary lookin’ and throw on some A314 wouldn’t you become more scary lookin’ in a sense. I’m not going along the Alpha scenario that A314 brings, but the intimidating aspect. Most examples given have added variables which make the person Alpha. Maybe I’m confusing the 2, but I was more thinking along the lines of making women more uncomfortable.If your a huge dude wearing A314 or a skinny dude wearing A314 who has less of a chance of making her high tail for the door??? I would say the person who was less intimidating to begin with, or doesn’t A314 work that way!?!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/10 "2010-09-08T19:00:38Z")
> [@GorMas2020](#): > > I understand what everyone is saying by their examples. My point was more like if someone showed you two pictures one of a tall lanky guy with no muscles(me) and a 300lb offensive lineman who would you say your more likely to avoid(without any variables)!?!?!? If your scary lookin’ and throw on some A314 wouldn’t you become more scary lookin’ in a sense. I’m not going along the Alpha scenario that A314 brings, but the intimidating aspect. Most examples given have added variables which make the person Alpha. Maybe I’m confusing the 2, but I was more thinking along the lines of making women more uncomfortable.If your a huge dude wearing A314 or a skinny dude wearing A314 who has less of a chance of making her high tail for the door??? I would say the person who was less intimidating to begin with, or doesn’t A314 work that way!?!?!?! I don’t think Alpha always means more intimidating really. I think the two are often thought to be similar when in fact I think they’re quite different. People who try to be alpha and aren’t usually try to be by being bullies or being tough, but it’s really not about that at all. It’s more about being strong… Which is often shown in much different ways than just intimidation, size, or being a bully. I think alpha’s are just more prone to speaking what they feel, or what they see, or the truth without regards to how others feel about it. As Steve would say, ‘they don’t sweat the small stuff’. Alpha’s are listened to, and generally respected without intimidation… so it’s really quite the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/11 "2010-09-09T02:28:33Z")
> [@GorMas2020](#): > > I understand what everyone is saying by their examples. My point was more like if someone showed you two pictures one of a tall lanky guy with no muscles(me) and a 300lb offensive lineman who would you say your more likely to avoid(without any variables)!?!?!? If your scary lookin’ and throw on some A314 wouldn’t you become more scary lookin’ in a sense. I’m not going along the Alpha scenario that A314 brings, but the intimidating aspect. Most examples given have added variables which make the person Alpha. Maybe I’m confusing the 2, but I was more thinking along the lines of making women more uncomfortable.If your a huge dude wearing A314 or a skinny dude wearing A314 who has less of a chance of making her high tail for the door??? I would say the person who was less intimidating to begin with, or doesn’t A314 work that way!?!?!?! I think I get what you’re saying, but for me the intimidation vibe other people get when I use it hasn’t been so much a “this guy could kick my ass” but more of a “he’s better than me” type of effect. Not one I deliberately foster, actually I’ve found with heavy A314 doses I need to be careful how I joke around because I’ve hurt peoples feelings unintentionally. It’s like my status is so high that my opinion carries more weight and that intimidates people to the point that they’d rather not risk offending me and having me think ill of them, or possibly use my alpha influence to cause others to think ill of them. Physicality and that type of intimidation sounds more along the lines of an [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) vibe. A heavy and aggressive none signature that says "me big strong cave man…me squash little man and impregnate his girlfriend…then leave little man to raise baby’s that look like me…oooga booga. yanno I think I need to order some Jerk now that I think about it. ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/12 "2010-09-09T06:52:55Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I think I get what you’re saying, but for me the intimidation vibe other people get when I use it hasn’t been so much a “this guy could kick my ass” but more of a “he’s better than me” type of effect. Not one I deliberately foster, actually I’ve found with heavy A314 doses I need to be careful how I joke around because I’ve hurt peoples feelings unintentionally. It’s like my status is so high that my opinion carries more weight and that intimidates people to the point that they’d rather not risk offending me and having me think ill of them, or possibly use my alpha influence to cause others to think ill of them. > Physicality and that type of intimidation sounds more along the lines of an Instant Jerk vibe. A heavy and aggressive none signature that says "me big strong cave man…me squash little man and impregnate his girlfriend…then leave little man to raise baby’s that look like me…oooga booga. > > yanno I think I need to order some Jerk now that I think about it. That makes sense…I don’t have as much experience using A314 and haven’t felt anybody being intimidated(physically), but I’m not intimidating so I was thinking that someone who was (physically) may have a problem, but your saying A314 doesn’t give off that vibe regardless of size, because I do agree with empath when he said intimidation and Alpha aren’t the same or at least at different ends of the spectrum ---
**Author:** ![papa4165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@papa4165](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/papa4165)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/13 "2010-09-09T08:11:39Z")
> [@GorMas2020](#): > > I understand what everyone is saying by their examples. My point was more like if someone showed you two pictures one of a tall lanky guy with no muscles(me) and a 300lb offensive lineman who would you say your more likely to avoid(without any variables)!?!?!? If your scary lookin’ and throw on some A314 wouldn’t you become more scary lookin’ in a sense. I’m not going along the Alpha scenario that A314 brings, but the intimidating aspect. Most examples given have added variables which make the person Alpha. Maybe I’m confusing the 2, but I was more thinking along the lines of making women more uncomfortable.If your a huge dude wearing A314 or a skinny dude wearing A314 who has less of a chance of making her high tail for the door??? I would say the person who was less intimidating to begin with, or doesn’t A314 work that way!?!?!?! I would agree with you that just looking at a picture you can say the 300 pounder is more intimidating, but humans use all their senses to evaluate situations site sound surroundings body language we calculate all variables in how we will react to a situation I think you are missing the point you have to take into consideration all the variables. A314 is a mix and it has differing social effects on people. Do all women run from large muscular men? No what about the women that love body builders. Do all women think skinny men are less intimidating she could have a ex that was a skinny psycho. Lets not get into the mind set that mones are magic bullets. they are 10% the rest is you and how you carry yourself. Take this example the same 2 guys wearing A314 one has a smile with a open posture. The other guy has a frown with a closed posture. the less intimidating person regardless is the person with a smile and open posture. Now can we change how people react to mones by our attitude I say yes. Im a officer 14 year vet all alphas Im 5’10 240 39years old not the smallest guy on the shift. But I project confidence/dominance I move around focused orderly and serious like the DI you can feel the pressence in the room. I dont BMW (Bitch Moan and Whine) when I talk I use a strong firm commanding voice. The guys I work with are young 23 to 30 5’10-6’4 300 plus monsters. Guess what not one will challenge me or second guess me when things get rocking. On the other side when we go to the bar Im pulling 23 yr old girls having them come to the table. Telling my guys Im so nice sweet funny and sexy. Why because i project that personality I give them what they want the GQ/Bond attitude that puts them at ease. Lets put it this way A314 is just one tool in my batman utility belt. Descrption of A314 While you can change the effect by using it with other products, A314 used alone is _sexy_, not sexual. You’ll give off the aura of a man who’d appear in **GQ or Esquire** , not a man who’s letting his naughty bits hang out (as in Playgirl). This makes A314 one of the very first products to hit the market that’s appropriate for use everywhere, **even at work**. Some other male oriented products from other manufacturers have been shown to be offensive in the same environment. Regards papa ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/14 "2010-09-09T19:57:21Z")
Nice Papa, good write up there. The important contrast to note is strong or alpha does not always equal intimidating and intimidating does not, in fact IMO rarely ever equal alpha. ---
**Author:** ![iamstretchypanda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/iamstretchypanda/32/1228_2.png) [@iamstretchypanda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iamstretchypanda)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314ers-does-size-matter/41463/15 "2010-09-16T23:47:38Z")
Recently heard a discussion about dominance in the bedroom that I think applies here. Being well endowed is a sign of dominance; however, without the right body language, emotions, and words, the dominance gained by being well hung is lost. Likewise if an out of shape guy is viewed as alpha, him loosing weight and gaining some mass will subconsciously effect both his view and other’s views of his dominance. Mones are kind of like a birthday cake. The cake signals there is a birthday, but does not create a great time on its own.