# ? About Pheromones & Ethnicity **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [May 2, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110 "2008-05-02T20:08:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mstearious\_won](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@mstearious\_won](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mstearious_won)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/1 "2008-05-02T20:08:42Z")
I posted this in the Woman’s Forum but I think it may be better suited to post here–Sry if I’m wrong? I did a search on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and race/ethnicity but didn’t really see anything that answered my question–I’ll be honest and say that I have a sort attention span so I’m sure the answer is there, I just didnt find it in time? _lol_ Anyways, as you can tell from the avatar, I am African American as are my targets/victims. Social settings are pretty A.A. dominated as well, I’m a college student so class offers some diversity. I guess what I really want to know is if the factor (if any) is a race/ethnicity thing or if its more cultural. I know the two categories can intertwine but sub-groups do come into play. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/2 "2008-05-02T21:48:08Z")
The common belief is that African American women like a high ~none signature and Asian women can’t stand ~none with White women in the middle depending on age. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/3 "2008-05-03T01:34:00Z")
> [@mstearious\_won](#): > > I posted this in the Woman’s Forum but I think it may be better suited to post here–Sry if I’m wrong? > > I did a search on pheromones and race/ethnicity but didn’t really see anything that answered my question–I’ll be honest and say that I have a sort attention span so I’m sure the answer is there, I just didnt find it in time? _lol_ > > Anyways, as you can tell from the avatar, I am African American as are my targets/victims. Social settings are pretty A.A. dominated as well, I’m a college student so class offers some diversity. > > I guess what I really want to know is if the factor (if any) is a race/ethnicity thing or if its more cultural. I know the two categories can intertwine but sub-groups do come into play. Are you planning on testing the waters, MW? If so, what is it that you’re wanting/hoping to accomplish? If I’m not mistaken, I think Bella and Countesszero are chocolate covered. You should send them a p.m. and/or search for their posts, in which should be very helpful. 😉 Good luck! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mstearious\_won](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@mstearious\_won](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mstearious_won)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/4 "2008-05-03T02:21:33Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Are you planning on testing the waters, MW? If so, what is it that you’re wanting/hoping to accomplish? > > If I’m not mistaken, I think Bella and Countesszero are chocolate covered. You should send them a p.m. and/or search for their posts, in which should be very helpful. 😉 > > Good luck! 🙂 Pheromones have definitely peaked my interest, but I’m still kinda sitting on the fence… I would love to gain more social grace as I’ve been told that I tend to come across as stand offish and unapproachable… From what I’ve read so far there are a couple of instant products that maybe able to assist me in this…But like I said, I’m still sitting on the fence for now…Guess I’ll do some more searches and see if I can find something to give me a lil push…Thanks for responding 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/5 "2008-05-03T02:28:07Z")
I think the biggest topic or interest on pheromones & ethnicity would be on the more sexual products. Surprise surprise. Anyhow, like mtn said, it seems that female AAs are able to handle more -none, and Asians seem to be the most repelled by the smell. For the more social products it doesn’t seem like race plays much of a difference. If you’re trying to be more approachable try using products like Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty. You’ll have to keep in mind though, that you will have to appear approachable or act like you’re approachable. In other words, you must appear and behave congruent to your pheromones. If you douse yourself with the three products above but look like the boogey man, no one is gonna want to get near you. No matter how much pheromones you have on. Check out this thread on congruence: [Congruence? What's That?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-whats-that/9805) Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![mstearious\_won](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@mstearious\_won](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mstearious_won)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/6 "2008-05-03T02:41:14Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > I think the biggest topic or interest on pheromones & ethnicity would be on the more sexual products. Surprise surprise. Anyhow, like mtn said, it seems that female AAs are able to handle more -none, and Asians seem to be the most repelled by the smell. For the more social products it doesn’t seem like race plays much of a difference. If you’re trying to be more approachable try using products like Instant Shine, Instant Openness and Instant Honesty. You’ll have to keep in mind though, that you will have to appear approachable or act like you’re approachable. In other words, you must appear and behave congruent to your pheromones. If you douse yourself with the three products above but look like the boogey man, no one is gonna want to get near you. No matter how much pheromones you have on. Check out this thread on congruence: [Congruence? What's That?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-whats-that/9805) > > Hope that helps. Well…I dont think I look like the boogie man? _lol_ No seriously, I’ve actually already read the congruence thread-But thanks for point it out 🙂 About the approachability thing–I’m on the reserved/quiet side until I feel comfortable with my surroundings and I think that gets miscontrued…I was made aware of how people perceived me initially, after they got to know me. They would say something along the lines of “Gee, I thought you were mean, snobby, or stuck up at first, but come to find out you’re pretty cool.” So whatever it is about my vibe that makes me come off as being unapproachable is done on an unconcious level because I really am a people’s person. My mom gets the same reactions–she says we just have a presence about us…Whatever that means ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/7 "2008-05-03T03:05:28Z")
> [@mstearious\_won](#): > > Well…I dont think I look like the boogie man? _lol_ No seriously, I’ve actually already read the congruence thread-But thanks for point it out 🙂 About the approachability thing–I’m on the reserved/quiet side until I feel comfortable with my surroundings and I think that gets miscontrued…I was made aware of how people perceived me initially, after they got to know me. They would say something along the lines of “Gee, I thought you were mean, snobby, or stuck up at first, but come to find out you’re pretty cool.” So whatever it is about my vibe that makes me come off as being unapproachable is done on an unconcious level because I really am a people’s person. My mom gets the same reactions–she says we just have a presence about us…Whatever that means Oh geez! 🆒 Social!? That’s the easiest part of the pheromone world! You can’t lose with Shine and Instant Openess (fun)! Definitely do your homework on those two! [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) for the more serious kind of communicating. Zeph is on point. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![mstearious\_won](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@mstearious\_won](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mstearious_won)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/8 "2008-05-03T03:29:44Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Oh geez! 🆒 Social!? That’s the easiest part of the pheromone world! You can’t lose with Shine and Instant Openess (fun)! Definitely do your homework on those two! Instant Honesty for the more serious kind of communicating. Zeph is on point. > > Cheers! Ok so it seems the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) are pretty much universal then? I have the ones you suggested on my list…Now I just have to figure out which sexual products to go with…That is if I ever get off the fence…I’m half way there _lol_ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/9 "2008-05-03T03:45:37Z")
> [@mstearious\_won](#): > > Ok so it seems the social pheromones are pretty much universal then? I have the ones you suggested on my list…Now I just have to figure out which sexual products to go with…That is if I ever get off the fence…I’m half way there _lol_ Get the TO-GOs in those, and they should convience you to dig a little deeper. 😉 Oh … now she wants sexual! 🙄 The ladies can help you with that. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/10 "2008-05-03T04:30:21Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > If I’m not mistaken, _ **I think Bella and Countesszero are chocolate covered.** _ You should send them a p.m. and/or search for their posts, in which should be very helpful. 😉 Good luck! 🙂 Hummm…interesting visual M&M…lol…you’re close with Countess…she’s a lovely Cherokee Indian/African American…me…notsoclose…I’m a pale face…😉 …but I am Italian…does that count some? mw…Countess has been around lately…you can also look up some of the fabulous Sheba’s posts…definitely worth a read. 🙂 The female sexual pheromones are suitable for any race. Black men are big responders to pheromones…_all_ men are responsive to copulins…😛…trust me. I would suggest Instant Sexiness/A (I am Woman vibe) it contains light copulins and comes in a to go size…nice to test to see if you like it before you purchase the 30ml size. Also you could try Instant Sexiness/B (softer sexy vibe) also w/light cops but it’s only available in the 30ml size…only AD knows why…seems to me it would be easy enough to bottle some up to test in to go sizes…🙄 Then there’s Lust After Me an Ylang scented oil that comes with 5X cops or an additional 20X cops…I believe it’s also available in other scents…chocolatini fo’ sho. You can go over to the ‘other place’ and order Essence of Women which is straight copulins. It can be used straight but definitely needs to be covered with perfume…or can be mixed into perfume or be composited with other pheromones or you can [spray pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) over once the EoW has dried down and then top with perfume. When you apply them straight they must dry down in order for the stinky fermented fruit smell to be sufficiently covered with perfume…otherwise that ewwww smell bleeds through…most dry down 10-15 min…I go closer to 20 min…works for me. If you haven’t been to the stickies at the top of the women’s forum…go there…lol…a wealth of info. It’s a good place to start amassing knowledge as to how to choose and apply pheromones…and much more. 😉 Hope that helps, Bella ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/11 "2008-05-03T13:18:40Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Hummm…interesting visual M&M…lol…you’re close with Countess…she’s a lovely Cherokee Indian/African American…me…notsoclose…I’m a pale face…😉 > …but I am Italian…does that count some? > > mw…Countess has been around lately…you can also look up some of the fabulous Sheba’s posts…definitely worth a read. 🙂 Mi dispiace, Signora Bella. Ero Sheba che e’ l’altra cioccolatina. Sorry, yes it was Sheba that’s chocolate coated. And yes, Italians are close in the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) signatures … if you ask me. 😃 MW … understand this darrrrrrrling … once you find that they work, the funds that you spend on nails, fast foods, and all the other stuff that you consider fun, will find their place at the back of the line … right behind mones. Fun! Fun! Fun! ---
**Author:** ![mstearious\_won](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@mstearious\_won](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mstearious_won)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/12 "2008-05-03T14:24:42Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Hummm…interesting visual M&M…lol…you’re close with Countess…she’s a lovely Cherokee Indian/African American…me…notsoclose…I’m a pale face…😉 > …but I am Italian…does that count some? > > mw…Countess has been around lately…you can also look up some of the fabulous Sheba’s posts…definitely worth a read. 🙂 > > The female sexual pheromones are suitable for any race. Black men are big responders to pheromones…_all_ men are responsive to copulins…😛…trust me. I would suggest Instant Sexiness/A (I am Woman vibe) it contains light copulins and comes in a to go size…nice to test to see if you like it before you purchase the 30ml size. Also you could try Instant Sexiness/B (softer sexy vibe) also w/light cops but it’s only available in the 30ml size…only AD knows why…seems to me it would be easy enough to bottle some up to test in to go sizes…🙄 Then there’s Lust After Me an Ylang scented oil that comes with 5X cops or an additional 20X cops…I believe it’s also available in other scents…chocolatini fo’ sho. You can go over to the ‘other place’ and order Essence of Women which is straight copulins. It can be used straight but definitely needs to be covered with perfume…or can be mixed into perfume or be composited with other pheromones or you can spray pheromones over once the EoW has dried down and then top with perfume. When you apply them straight they must dry down in order for the stinky fermented fruit smell to be sufficiently covered with perfume…otherwise that ewwww smell bleeds through…most dry down 10-15 min…I go closer to 20 min…works for me. > > If you haven’t been to the stickies at the top of the women’s forum…go there…lol…a wealth of info. It’s a good place to start amassing knowledge as to how to choose and apply pheromones…and much more. 😉 > > Hope that helps, > > Bella Hi Bella 🙂 Thanks for your suggestions–I can’t stomach ylang ylang so hopefully [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) is available in other scents–I’m actually quite curious about the cover scents as to how intense they are and which ones are easily covered because I’ve grown fond of certain perfumes and wonder if they will clash? Oh well guess the only way to truly know is to find out for myself…I’m gettin off the fence when I get my stimulus check, figured I can stimulate the economy, myself, and other simultaneously 😃 ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/13 "2008-05-13T13:36:00Z")
Personally, if a girl seems unapproachable in her body language, however she may smell (or not: pheromones) will keep me away from her. If you are going to spend money here then you might want to smile, when using your pheromones, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/14 "2008-05-17T19:09:51Z")
People of African ancestory tend to have the most apocrine sweat glands, Asians have the least. Apocrine sweat glands produce androstenone/nol/none. So people of African ancestory will naturally tend to smell more like androstenone/androstenol than whites or Asians. The corollary may also be that they are less sensitive to it, as well. ---
**Author:** ![IMOM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/imom/32/2084_2.png) [@IMOM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/IMOM)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/15 "2008-06-01T18:06:33Z")
I think both race and culture play a role. I have noticed a difference between American born Asians and Asian born Asians. I think people of different races have different baseline pheromone signatures. Some are higher in certain pheromones and lower in others. The result is some races are more responsive to certain pheromones than others and some races are more prone to OD than others. I have read that sex pheromones work exceptionally well for Caucasians who want to attract AAs. I suspect that AAs have both a higher reaction and tolerance to [sexual pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/). ---
**Author:** ![nosemolester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nosemolester/32/1782_2.png) [@nosemolester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nosemolester)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/16 "2008-07-02T04:09:00Z")
mw, let me know what works. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/17 "2008-07-02T13:31:15Z")
> [@IMOM](#): > > I think both race and culture play a role. I have noticed a difference between American born Asians and Asian born Asians. I think people of different races have different baseline pheromone signatures. Some are higher in certain pheromones and lower in others. The result is some races are more responsive to certain pheromones than others and some races are more prone to OD than others. I have read that sex pheromones work exceptionally well for Caucasians who want to attract AAs. I suspect that AAs have both a higher reaction and tolerance to sexual pheromones. I say you’re right there, IMOM, BUT you always have to give doubt to that 1% exception. I was sitting at a bar … long long ago … with two drops of Primal Instinct on with a cover scent. A lady of color came and stood beside me to order a drink. She looks at me and said, “You make me nervous.” I said, “Nawwwwh, it’s love at first site.” Was she in the 1% or was it her **low tolerance time** in her cycle? 😕 There is such a thing, yes? I “ **THINK** ” Gegogi said it best … Once people become comfortable with you, no matter what the nationality is, you can up the -none. And still … I “ **THINK** ” their cycle plays a role as well. ---
**Author:** ![nosemolester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nosemolester/32/1782_2.png) [@nosemolester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nosemolester)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-pheromones-ethnicity/12110/18 "2008-07-02T22:59:22Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > I say you’re right there, IMOM, BUT you always have to give doubt to that 1% exception. > > I was sitting at a bar … long long ago … with two drops of Primal Instinct on with a cover scent. A lady of color came and stood beside me to order a drink. She looks at me and said, “You make me nervous.” I said, “Nawwwwh, it’s love at first site.” Was she in the 1% or was it her **low tolerance time** in her cycle? 😕 There is such a thing, yes? > > I “ **THINK** ” Gegogi said it best … Once people become comfortable with you, no matter what the nationality is, you can up the -none. And still … I “ **THINK** ” their cycle plays a role as well. I’ve heard that PI attracts AA