# AD pheromone COOKBOOK... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 6, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ad-pheromone-cookbook/59239 "2013-06-06T21:08:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ad-pheromone-cookbook/59239/6 "2013-06-07T04:05:07Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > MMDI what is your take on this? What if your dosages don’t work on other mone users , then what? What if like Tisha says a sweet spot is different for each person which is why layering is superb? And Tisha do you see any ADVANATAGES to MMDI MIXING approach over layering in terms of RESULTS given equals amounts mones used in both methods (layering vs mixing). > [@ICM 1a and 1b Night](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1a-and-1b-night/48857): > > Been a while since I posted so here is one night’s adventures: Myself: Mid 40’s, Athletic, Married What: 3 sprays of Steve’s ICM 1a mix (Blue Bottle) 2 sprays of Steves ICM 1b mix (Blue Bottle) Both around upper chest, lower neck, a touch on wrists and back of neck Mrs. BH and I go out for the evening: dinner, music, dancing … you know the drill. We go to one place we hit fairly often where they play live music. The music is good but it tends to be the same although sometimes they do surpr… Before I ever thought of testing anything, some users developed very interesting mixes. Some were released as MX’s. Wildflower had some worthwhile efforts here. Some of the success with ICM translated into the things Steve does now. I test anything I get first on myself, by layering. Then I try it elsewhere. But, there’s a problem. I like the complexity that comes from layering several mones. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) + IH + P74 +IShine makes a great crush mix. Problem is, it takes 4 sprays IH alone to get that effect. It took well over 8 sprays of product to get the desired effect. I didn’t discover the crush effect of IH/P74, especially with A314, but it’s there. I just can’t go to a club and duck into the bathroom every 30 minutes layering. I can’t walk around smelling like an orange grove. So, as they’ve done for years now, users try to develop mixes that give them success in dosed amounts per spray. Androtics doesn’t sell a crush mix pre-made or ICM. I, personally, am also not going to refer people off site to get something like that. And, I do share the frustration of users in posts like this: > [@It is time: We need a MXX 297 Instant Line Release](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-is-time-we-need-a-mxx-297-instant-line-release/59110): > > I am writing this on behalf of all of us 297 lovers and users. For long have we wanted a 30 ml release of this product. We dont mind paying the full combined price for a 30 ml which equates to six 5 ml togo’s, it is just that the to-go’s still leak. I would use this four nights a week if I could get this in 30 ML and would not lose 50% of the container when I order this. Many of us switch away from buying products in fear the formula changes and/or it will go away if we love it. Please, make … But, truthfully, guys like Ghost and other years before me, many come and gone (not gone from mones, just doing their thing elsewhere), have been cooking home brews. I like Ghost’s effort. His ratios for -eNone, p102 and P74 perform well in my mixes. You can brew up a few to test on your night out. That’s what I do. I have a few tests for my evening out. And, to the point, Androtics sells pipettes and mixing supplies. I kind of figure they’d not sell if it didn’t have some value. `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/my-golden-13-m3-mix-61421.html` > [@How to PROPERLY make ICM (MX301)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595): > > Link is from deleted thread This is ICM and this is how you make it. All 30 mL bottles at the mcg listed You must have an additional CLEAN NEW 30 ML bottle and individual pipettes for each molecule. You DO NOT reuse these! TAA ----\>30 mcg ----\>72 drops = 3.974 mcg per spray BNOL ----\>30 mcg ----\>90 drops = 4.967 mcg per spray (ANOL can be sustituted if you choose) P93 ----\>20 mcg ----\>48 drops = 1.766 mcg per spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) ----\>30 mcg ----\>55 drops = 3.035 mcg per spray NONE----\>… After it was decided not to market ICM, guys still wanted it. It got results for them. So they learned how to brew it and mutants (swap out P75). It started way before I ever got here. At least, that’s the rumor I heard. Frankly, sometimes, I wonder why bother. So I won’t. Sorry DSouza. I think I’ll just do my own thing. I’ve done some thinking, and that thinking takes me in the direction of reduced forum participation. I’ll keep brewing, but it will be for my own aims and with notes in a private journal. I’ll keep a public one in a reduced presence. Good luck OP. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ad-pheromone-cookbook/59239)._