# Advancing the science: Changing pheromone signatures when stuff works. **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [May 13, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583 "2008-05-13T18:55:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/1 "2008-05-13T18:55:10Z")
Lately I have been wearing the same pheromone mixes daily. I’ve become stagnated to testing, not because things have become boring. On the contrary I have been getting most excellent results with almost everything I wear. I spray 3 of MX-SteveO and 2 of A314 and I know that if I wear this combo here I’m going to get this type of hit. In a sense it almost becomes too easy to wear the same old mix knowing that my reasons to wear them is to meet woman and have me a good ole time with them. I decided to try Dirty the other day and remarkably I had some interesting hits. I’ve also been trying a new MX with some pretty incredible results. So where as it’s super easy Louise, to garner the same results over and over advancing the science of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) and perhaps finding that ultimate MX like the “You Smell Like Sex” mix, requires me to push outside my comfort zone. Hindsight is always 20/10 (great eyesight), but when I was making the ICM mix I spent a good couple of months of weird looks and strange results because I was willing to push the limits, put down the Ammo and other instants and make mistakes by experimenting. I guess this is a call to action, but I haven’t been reading a whole lot of experimenting with P this and P that mixed with ExperiMone XXX lately. I can point it out because I’m guilty. There are still Putatives that have very little reports on them and I tell you anyone who wants to be an advanced user should be asking for “Advanced Status” and reporting on how they mixed P74 with some P83 and MX203 (an example and a hint). I’ve been adding a whole lot of older MX’s into the store over yesterday and today. It’s a good way to try and test new items that still as of two years later have little reporting on. Once some of these go out of stock they will not be coming back. Unless of course someone reports on them and then they might not come back as an MX but as a retail product or a special MX that I can have the Lab custom create only for you. I will be getting out of my comfort zone and testing a whole lot more over the next few months and just maybe the newest SteveO mix will blow the old ICM out of the water. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/2 "2008-05-13T20:41:56Z")
I agree SteveO, I am guilty as well. I have quite a few Putatives and Experimones and havnt gotten around to testing them because the consumer products are so dang good you get spoiled and dont want to stop useing them. So starting tommorrow I am going to start delving into my Putatives and see what I can come up with. Come on peeps, Lets all step out of the comfort zone and join SteveO on a quest for new and fabulous mixes Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/3 "2008-05-13T21:13:36Z")
Ima been workin’ on it…feverishly…lol…comin’…promise…😉 😃 😛 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/4 "2008-05-13T21:51:34Z")
Hmm, I guess I could give my bottle of MX140 a go, right? 🙂 Other than that I’m still planning on testing my ultimate comfort/bonding mix - if only I had a good chance to test it… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/5 "2008-05-13T22:59:26Z")
Heh, interesting. I’ve found it more interesting to see how the combined effects of product + putative change compared to putative + putative, but I suppose I have a bit to go before I really get a hold of current putatives, let alone unleashing a whole new set of them on my brain. But as always, more experiments, more bettah. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/6 "2008-05-14T11:47:30Z")
Guilty as charged. But, just about 2 or 3 weeks ago and around the time my last order arrived, I realized that I had become complacent, and had not testing or reporting on anything new in quite a while. My little bottle of ICM 0.25.1a had been working like magic, and I was reluctant to try anything new. So, I started wearing new and different mixes everytime I went out, and you know what? It really is a LOT more fun compiling a new mix, then testing and tweaking it here and there to make it lean in one direction or another. The coming back and sharing the results. Yesterday, for my Tuesday Hooters happy hour, I wore nothing but 60 mcg’s of [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), and while we didn’t have the place rocking like we did last Friday, It was the first time I’d worn P74 solo in public, and I at least have a little better understanding of the molecule. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/7 "2008-05-14T14:28:33Z")
Woot Woot, my Network is back on. Just think of how much fun it will be when you are testing, and then get to go back to an old tried and true mix. ---
**Author:** ![jonno101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jonno101/32/367_2.png) [@jonno101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonno101)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advancing-the-science-changing-pheromone-signatures-when-stuff-works/12583/8 "2008-05-25T21:54:41Z")
Steve-O, I hear the call - guilty as charged. I only have P74 and some [MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) but to be honest whenever I Xperiment, I tend to add them to some version of my base mix - which usually means A314, IS and IO. I know I should stray further and I did when I first got my P74 and MX’s, using them individually [and in pairs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-batch-day-1/9533/1) but found that it was like cooking using only the herbs & spices - no carbs or proteins. Which led me to ask “where’s the beef?” In my case, the beef being some sort of none I can tolerate/has a good effect around me. Any advice you can give me on what I other combos I could use P74 with - can I recreate/approximate P83 with any of my products listed below? I don’t have any AMMO left (lost it on the underground) and my IH has finished. Other than that, I’ve got a reasonable stash mainly based on work-based products. Don’t be afraid to suggest daytime work mix with TUTH in as I find that it goes down well in my mainly young female office. I swear I get the sort of reaction most people say they get with AMMO. 1 ToGo spray is good, but 2 or 3 I can get away with - no guys pissed of & lots of good attention. Go figure.😃 (I still have lots of SOE in my arsenal - in fact, dug it out and tried again last week - but still get approached, but treated like a wuss/the invisible man) **So, any suggested combos to use P74 with my products and I’ll be off and reporting.**