# advice before going experimone with my next order **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 30, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737 "2008-01-30T00:26:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737/1 "2008-01-30T00:26:19Z")
im running out of the first order’s to-go bottles of Turn Up The Heat, IS, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and AMMO. mostly Turn Up The Heat and IS, as i got the best results with those. my fav results were with 2-3 sprays of Turn Up The Heat and 2-4 sprays of IS, maybe adding 1-2 more sprays of Turn Up The Heat at the end of the night for later after parties. no OD’s, unless i overdid it with lots of sprays of everything all at the same time. more like a confusion for others. ammo was ok at one spray as a general social attractant. but i’d rather do my own combinations of -none, TAA and Alphanol. im assuming that’s what’s in ammo… Instant Openness at one spray got my GF to volunteer new topics into conversations whenever there was a long pause, but just a little bit. i was trying for exactly that, but i predict that i wouldnt use less than 2xIO if i plan to get someone to talk. more if i really want them to blab. i realized today that most of the looks and stares i got must have been due to IS. i really like this one, it should be the basis for any reactions i want. i’d like to be able to wear this daily even if i dont add anything else. so i wanna get some big bottles of experimones. im thinking -none at 2.5mcg, alphanol at 30mcg, TAA at 45mcg and then others for experimenting. i’d like to explain what my reasons are and maybe i can be corrected if im wrong. **2.5mcg none:** spray form, scented as Turn Up The Heat, so i can easily add it in controllable steps. i love TUTH and i’ve been reading it’s unbuffered none at 2.5mcg. does that mean -none is the only phero in the mix? if so, then why not just use a straight none spray at the same concentration? **30mcg Alphanol:** spray, unscented, i’ll mostly be adding it, so dont want to mix scents. it’s the part of Instant Openness that makes people talk and space out, right? i get first noticeable reactions with 1x spray of Instant Openness and more with 2x. im not sure if i care about the betanol component and it’s truth serum effects, im more interested in small talk autopilot. **7.5mcg TAA:** oil, unscented. TAA is the stuff in IS, right? i really dont see any downside to having this on all the time in all situations where i want attention (which is a lot of situations). using oil instead of spray would extend it’s effects. i’d just put on one drop in the morning before work, 1-2 drops before going out into crowded places. i am not 100% sure TAA is all i’d need to replicate the effects of IS. if there is more to it, i may just stick with IS at 45mcg, the whole effect is more important to me than the other requirements. here is how i see it. i go to work, i put on 45mcg TAA. i go out, i put on 45-90mcg TAA, 2.5-5mcg -none and 30mcg -Androstenol. date with a girl, i’d put on 45mcg TAA, 2.5mcg -none and 60mcg -Androstenol; if the date comes back to my house, i’ll add 2.5-5mcg more none once i feel the time is right (mmm, i sure love the smell of TUTH 🙂). then i’d like to expand on these basics with some new-to-me stuff. im thinking -Androsterone, TAL, TAC and EST. **Androsterone:** this stuff makes women see you as a stable man whom they would be safe with, right? i’d really like to try some -Androsterone/-none combinations on my own. not like A314, but more along the lines of sexy, safe and stable. **TAL:** is this another ingredient in IS? im not sure, but i’ve read it makes people wanna get closer to you. i want people to get closer to me too. seems like a logical thing to get then. **TAC:** not sure what products this is in, maybe A314? i’ve read it makes people do what you tell them. i need that like i need air, can never get enough. **EST:** “everybody start touching”, that’s all i had to read about it. gimme some of that! so i ask, please help me with your advice on this next order 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737/2 "2008-01-30T03:00:12Z")
I think you may have misread a little with your TA series products. TAA is the primary ingredient in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). For a good read on TAL from Jasmin herself read this thread: > [@sorry! TAA, TAL, TAK Question](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sorry-taa-tal-tak-question/5223): > > Hey everybody, I’m sorry to start a new post about this, but I couldn’t seem to relocate the post I read last night concerning the question I’m about to post. Which, TAA, TAL, TAK makes women more aggressive towards you as in, be more willing to initiate? I somehow, got that TAL was in instant shine, but i thought it was TAA. I’m a little bit confused here. I know there’s another post by someone else with the same type of confusion, but the repsonses didn’t seem to clarify for me. Could someon… TAC I am sure is not a part of A314. Reports indicate that it seems to get people giddy, laughing. SteveO has an interesting take on TAC here: > [@At-TAC-k of the Teenage Dream Machine & The 3 Headed Thread Monster](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/at-tac-k-of-the-teenage-dream-machine-the-3-headed-thread-monster/7997): > > Today has been a very interesting day for me. A lot of my fellow forum members have asked me in posts, PM’s and on the phone about the illustrious TAC. I’ve been super busy with everything lately, trying to juggle time with my friends, my lair, the forum, my new girlfriend, my mom slowly dying and everything Jasmin has been teaching me. Just the workload of Androtics is huge and I find myself working from 8 am until well past midnight. This usually does not make my new girl-friend happy at all… For a glimpse of the results, read the following thread: > [@"Oh, you smell like Sex! What's your name?"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oh-you-smell-like-sex-whats-your-name/7797): > > Last night I was finishing the forum introduction GC emails at my local BuckyStars. It was like a convention of college cuties! I guess they all were home for the Christmas holiday and like me, needed a sanctuary from all the other visiting family members. Of course mine have all left already, but my house tends to be stressful with my mom close to death. So off to BuckyStars to drink coffee and forget about the aches and pains of my troubled home life at this time. On that note I got to tell y… Now, if I were going to make some purchases in the experimone series, I would carefully read the mixes in this post that SteveO has made and he and a couple others (Mark-in-Dallas, etc.) have had blazing success with: `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/future-pheromone-universe-i-seek-your-9175.html` ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737/3 "2008-01-30T05:29:56Z")
wow, thanks a LOT, bosshank, for taking the time to give me all these leads! i’ll be sure to traverse them tomorrow. no more brain juice left today, it’s late plus i just finished reading renny’s great journal 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737/4 "2008-01-30T06:19:11Z")
TAL brings attention from girls. In my experience. Even if they don’t act on it sometimes, they still pay attention to me. It’s funny. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737/5 "2008-01-30T10:18:06Z")
> [@](#): > > [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) was ok at one spray as a general social attractant. but i’d rather do my own combinations of -none, [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) and Alphanol. im assuming that’s what’s in [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)… Almost got it right, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is anone, arone and anols. There is no TAA in it. That was 1.5 which they no longer sell. > [@](#): > > **TAL:** is this another ingredient in IS? im not sure, but i’ve read it makes people wanna get closer to you. i want people to get closer to me too. seems like a logical thing to get then. Tal is in Instant sexiness not Instant shine. Instant shine is altered TAA. TAL and TAH are mostly in the womens products this however dosnt mean they are not useful to men so they are worth testing. > [@](#): > > **TAC:** not sure what products this is in, maybe A314? i’ve read it makes people do what you tell them. i need that like i need air, can never get enough. Could be, there is something like 19 mones in A314 so its possible there is a small trace. > [@](#): > > **EST** ([https://phera.com/](https://phera.com/)) **:** “everybody start touching”, that’s all i had to read about it. gimme some of that! A female mone which is said to be the flip side of A1 in men. Women who wear it notice men touch more. I believe Tater mentioned it was good on men because men seemed nicer and more pleasant, hopefully they dont touch you more (snort) So far in my testing of it has no effect on women. Could be different worn by a man though. My advice to you before you place your advanced order would be to be sure you have reported in detail (how much, application points, enviroment, results) and be sure to put your forum username in the notes section of the order. Start slow with a few popular experimone products and work from there. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737/6 "2008-01-30T17:43:31Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Start slow with a few popular experimone products and work from there. > > Tisha Yep, listen to Tisha! And, if you plan to mix products together, instead of spraying them on one at a time, then I highly suggest you get all compounds at the same mcg’s per spray, which will make concocting custom mixes a lot easier. ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-before-going-experimone-with-my-next-order/8737/7 "2008-01-30T23:47:54Z")
so after much looking around and debating i also realized that if i wanted to get everything i wanted to get i’d have to spend a million dollars. im a little short of the million at the moment and getting audited by the IRS, so the wild experimentation will have to be put on hold until im out of prison (joking about that, hopefully i’ll stay free). but looks like the govt is gonna get their damn dirty socialist paws on some more of my money… which means less for toys and pheromones. (oh, minus the $15 sign-up discount YAY 🙂) the to-go bottles were fun, but not enough to really experiment with the mixes. i’ve already noticed it takes people i know a few times to get used to the new smelling Max, so i deff need to be able to stick to a combination for a week or more. i’ve just put in my order: 15ml A314, 2x IShine and 1x Turn Up The Heat. i’ve been dieing for A314, so now i’ll finally be able to take over this damn corporation 😉 im assuming that full sized Turn Up The Heat smells the same as the to-go version, as i sure love that smell… I wish there were 3x IShine, but i’ll settle for 2x. all your replies clarified one thing: IShine+Turn Up The Heat is good enough for now. i still have a good amount of Instant Openness and ammo left in in the to-go’s and an untouched to-go of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (fearing the collateral depression and waiting for GF’s pms to try this out). so i can still spice things up a little if i feel like it. thank you everyone!