# Advice for a 37 year old who feels 25! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 4, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147 "2012-04-04T06:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JonnyRingo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@JonnyRingo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JonnyRingo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/1 "2012-04-04T06:15:37Z")
Hi all. As the title kind of says, I’m a 37 year old who still feels like a 25 year old, and I’m looking for some advice from the experienced pros. I first stumbled across peromones around 7 years ago when I was having trouble moving things forward with a girl I was kind of seeing at the time. One afternoon I was in a pub with the lady in question on one of our “non-dates”, and when I went to the gents I noticed a vending machine next to the condom machine selling sachets of peromones for 1GBP! Completely on a whim, I just thought I’d buy one, going with the thought, “Well, it can’t make things worse”. Quite rightly I assumed it to be complete junk, but I just thought what the hell. Anyway, a quick application of this stuff - it smelt gross, but fortunately I was wearing enough aftershave to cover it - and back I went to my date. The strange thing was that a few mins she was definitely acting different towards me - much more eye contact, more physical touching, just a different demeanour. One thing led to another and a hour later we were in bed together. Obviously at the time I put this down to anything OTHER than the peromones, but later that week (when she had returned to being a little stand-off-ish again) I asked her what had happened on the previous date. Her words were basically along the lines that when we were sitting in the pub, she suddenly got this inexplicable feeling that “things could really work between us”… So anyway, the next time we went out I didn’t use any of the pheromones and nothing happened between us. The following time however, I used these same cheap machine vended pheromones again, and lo and behold, things happened between us again! While not exactly an empirical test, I was certainly sold on the potential of peromones. Fast forward 7 years and here I am coming out of a long term relationship (not with the lady above incidentally), and I’ve recently been getting close to a girl some 11 years my junior, so feeling a bit “sugar daddy” with her, I thought I’d indulge in a bit of pheromone activity to help move things along with her. I did a bit of research on the net (unfortunately I didn’t find this forum until recently), and purchased some Human Euphoria cologne, primarily because it was in the UK and had quick delivery. I didn’t the greatest reviews, but my thinking was that if a 1GBP sachet of pheromone from a vending machine 7 years ago would pay dividends, then this new stuff MUST be better. Errrr… how wrong was I! Total rubbish is what springs to mind. Even after taking my time to attempt to find my sweet spot with it, it made absolutely zero difference in every aspect, and that includes various different situations with both people I know and those I just met. So, after reading up some more, I thought I’d try Pheromax as it seems to have a good reputation. Again, sweet spot testing ensued in various situations (including with my target lady) and once again, I may as well have been wearing water instead of a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/). Absolutely no changes in responses or behaviour from anyone. If it hadn’t been for my successes with the cheap pheromones 7 years ago, I’d have just given the pheromone thing up as nothing more than a placibo effect making people believe in themselves more… and therefore seeing results of their own making. However, as I truly believe I have seen pheromones work, I am here for some advice before indulging myself with some Androtics products. So, one long rambling post later, and I’m at the point of asking some advice. 🙂 So, as I say I’m 37 although fortunately I still look a bit younger than that, and I have no trouble talking to women and maintaining relationships. However, I find that I’m still attracted to women who are now 10 years younger than me, so I need some advice on the best mone products for a guy of my age, especially considering my failures with Human Euphoria (not that surprising I guess!) and especially Pheromax. I was thinking of starting with Ammo (x2, considering my age) and IS worn in conjunction (after separate sweet spot testing of them both course), and then also TUTH for nights out for that little bit extra. I was even considering a togo of IJ, although I’m wondering if I should just stick with a little TUTH until I have them figured out. Thoughts? Any advice will be seriously appreciated guys, as I would ideally like to see some results fairly cost effectively before I start considering anything like A314. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/2 "2012-04-04T06:40:55Z")
I think I know that vending machine phero firm - they are an industrial cleaning company who branched-out into selling all sorts of “naughty novelty” from vending machines in the pubs they serviced. It may well be a genuine product but as they have no track record in the phero line, I wouldn’t hold-out much hope for consistant quality and reliability. Yes - most of us probably found our way here via lesser phero products. In my case, I had bought a decent product - alpha androstenol but from a firm that totally oversold its sexual/attraction properties. Nonetheless, the results and my professional experience with animal/insect [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) encouraged me to look further. You will soon find the other good products and phero sellers in discussion here. The only ones discouraged in discussion are the sharks. I’d suggest you save the IJ till later, when you have some more experience of pheros - It is pretty much an intentional OD of none and the responses tend to reflect that. It will also repel more people than it will attract - Although when it does hit home, the results tend to be dramatic, in very good and very bad ways. Personally, I keep it for when I want to let my inner bastard out to play and pair it with A314 - About half the time I get brilliant results and the other half I end-up facing down some guy who wants to fight me. Yes, too much overt none can trigger aggressive/competitive responses in other guys and alongside A314, they will simply assume you can back it up! Also, it gets it best responses with women in their mid 30s and over, younger women do tend to recoil visibly, unless you do find the very odd one who responds to strong none. But it is still an experience you should try sometime. just don’t do what I did and dose-up, then walk into one of the roughest pubs in town! :o ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/3 "2012-04-04T06:47:58Z")
My favorite youthful combo for men to wear is \>\>\> [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1X ( dont jump to 2X just yet) if pheromax and Human E were not effective higher none is not going to be better for you. Those two are unbalanced and high on the anone side. Ishine 2X and P83 if you can get your hands on it. If not the above two are great together. Save the TUTH for dates, intimate encounters and social settings that are more sexually charged. Works best on those with a good comfort level with you. Pair it with Ishine or IO. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/4 "2012-04-04T07:17:27Z")
> [@JonnyRingo](#): > > Hi all. As the title kind of says, I’m a 37 year old who still feels like a 25 year old, and I’m looking for some advice from the experienced pros. > > I first stumbled across peromones around 7 years ago when I was having trouble moving things forward with a girl I was kind of seeing at the time. One afternoon I was in a pub with the lady in question on one of our “non-dates”, and when I went to the gents I noticed a vending machine next to the condom machine selling sachets of peromones for 1GBP! Completely on a whim, I just thought I’d buy one, going with the thought, “Well, it can’t make things worse”. Quite rightly I assumed it to be complete junk, but I just thought what the hell. Anyway, a quick application of this stuff - it smelt gross, but fortunately I was wearing enough aftershave to cover it - and back I went to my date. The strange thing was that a few mins she was definitely acting different towards me - much more eye contact, more physical touching, just a different demeanour. One thing led to another and a hour later we were in bed together. Obviously at the time I put this down to anything OTHER than the peromones, but later that week (when she had returned to being a little stand-off-ish again) I asked her what had happened on the previous date. Her words were basically along the lines that when we were sitting in the pub, she suddenly got this inexplicable feeling that “things could really work between us”… > > So anyway, the next time we went out I didn’t use any of the pheromones and nothing happened between us. The following time however, I used these same cheap machine vended pheromones again, and lo and behold, things happened between us again! While not exactly an empirical test, I was certainly sold on the potential of peromones. > > Fast forward 7 years and here I am coming out of a long term relationship (not with the lady above incidentally), and I’ve recently been getting close to a girl some 11 years my junior, so feeling a bit “sugar daddy” with her, I thought I’d indulge in a bit of pheromone activity to help move things along with her. > > I did a bit of research on the net (unfortunately I didn’t find this forum until recently), and purchased some Human Euphoria cologne, primarily because it was in the UK and had quick delivery. I didn’t the greatest reviews, but my thinking was that if a 1GBP sachet of pheromone from a vending machine 7 years ago would pay dividends, then this new stuff MUST be better. Errrr… how wrong was I! Total rubbish is what springs to mind. Even after taking my time to attempt to find my sweet spot with it, it made absolutely zero difference in every aspect, and that includes various different situations with both people I know and those I just met. > > So, after reading up some more, I thought I’d try Pheromax as it seems to have a good reputation. Again, sweet spot testing ensued in various situations (including with my target lady) and once again, I may as well have been wearing water instead of a pheromone product. Absolutely no changes in responses or behaviour from anyone. > > If it hadn’t been for my successes with the cheap pheromones 7 years ago, I’d have just given the pheromone thing up as nothing more than a placibo effect making people believe in themselves more… and therefore seeing results of their own making. However, as I truly believe I have seen pheromones work, I am here for some advice before indulging myself with some Androtics products. > > So, one long rambling post later, and I’m at the point of asking some advice. 🙂 > > So, as I say I’m 37 although fortunately I still look a bit younger than that, and I have no trouble talking to women and maintaining relationships. However, I find that I’m still attracted to women who are now 10 years younger than me, so I need some advice on the best mone products for a guy of my age, especially considering my failures with Human Euphoria (not that surprising I guess!) and especially Pheromax. > > I was thinking of starting with Ammo (x2, considering my age) and IS worn in conjunction (after separate sweet spot testing of them both course), and then also TUTH for nights out for that little bit extra. I was even considering a togo of IJ, although I’m wondering if I should just stick with a little TUTH until I have them figured out. Thoughts? > > Any advice will be seriously appreciated guys, as I would ideally like to see some results fairly cost effectively before I start considering anything like A314. I’ve been having excellent results recently with a base mix of 1 drop A314 to forearms (& I can easily smell there for self-effects!), 1 s p83 to front of neck (20 mcg), 1s IO/1s IH to opposite sides of neck. I will sometimes vary it up w/ 1 s ammo instead of a314. Once the interest level is HIGH & things are looking promising I will only then add 1-2 s TUTH, to close the deal 😉 This combo has been working well for some very interesting hits & coitus inducing playtimes! I too am much older than my target age group, but it can be done, just think of yourself as being superior to what her own age group has to offer (you have to possess some advantage) & be confident, you will see how it works as you amp up your game…and happy hunting dude!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/5 "2012-04-04T09:06:49Z")
In terms of what to try first, I can’t add a lot to what has already been posted, other than that IS is a really safe place to start experimenting & I can’t say enough good things about it. Although I am 39, IS has made me feel 38 again 😉 > [@](#): > > primarily because it was in the UK and had quick delivery. I first tried mones years ago and when I started looking into it again I ordered some from a UK based company that took 2 weeks to arrive. Since then 2 out of my 3 orders from AD have arrived in the UK in 2 days. Welcome & have fun ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/6 "2012-04-04T09:09:08Z")
Yup - UK is far ahead of any other phero company, UK, EU or US that I’ve used so far when it comes to delivery. True it ain’t cheap but it is worth it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/7 "2012-04-04T12:25:08Z")
Hi JonnyRingo - funny you and I have similar backgrounds with mones and I’m also 36 going on 37 but I look 28 - 30. I like your picks: Tuth, Ammo and IS - as Tisha said I think P83 would be an awesome addition. I can say the first mones I got from AD were, Ammo, Tuth, IS and A314. I have experienced several blatant hits from all of them. I’ve never used IJ so i can’t say much about it. ---
**Author:** ![JonnyRingo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@JonnyRingo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JonnyRingo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-a-37-year-old-who-feels-25/55147/8 "2012-04-05T04:39:02Z")
Great advice guys, and good to know my reading to date has put me on the right path in terms of decent “noob choices”! 😉 I think an order or Ammo, IS and TUTH is on the cards. 🙂 (@Trisha - looks like P83 is out at the moment, but I’ll keep my eyes peeled for a return). Also, just want to say that I’m a member of a few on-line forums and communities for various things and I have to say, this is one of the most helpful and friendly ones I’ve come across. Good work guys!