# advice for turn up the heat 2x?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-turn-up-the-heat-2x/13816>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 12, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-turn-up-the-heat-2x/13816 "2008-06-12T02:06:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-for-turn-up-the-heat-2x/13816/6 "2008-06-12T03:15:11Z")

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Seriously dude - especially 2X at your age. I use 2X and I am mid-40s. Most the ladies here will tell you - Turn Up The Heat is best used to seal the deal, not your opening gambit.

Tisha explains it like this (and is seconded by quite a few of the ladies here):

Ammo says “I am interested”

TUTH says “I want to do you right now”

TUTH will tend to push away a lot of women as it indicates _all_ you want is sex.

You may be able to get away with a little more none than most guys because you are Asian, but you want to up the none with ammo, not TUTH. It is just sending out the wrong message for your opening gambit.

In the meantime, read Tisha’s comments on A314 and ammo together in this thread:

> [@A314 and Ammo Combo Question](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-ammo-combo-question/13257):
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> I use both or variants on a near daily basis. Now there is some overlap in the individual pheromones in both products although A314 certainly has more as reported and the ratios are also certainly different. My question is this: When we wear both A314 and Ammo at the same time are we sending out the two distinct signals of Ammo and A314 … or are we just throwing out a lot of signal, but one that is neither really one or the other? If it is the latter are we just sending out an off-kilter A314 …

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