# Advice Needed? IS + TUTH

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 9, 2012, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498 "2012-02-09T08:15:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Nova512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/43a26b/32.png) [@Nova512](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nova512)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/1 "2012-02-09T08:15:16Z")

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Okey so before getting advice I need your thoughts. I go to college in NY, I am from France so I’m brand new here don’t know much people. The tick over here is I am far from being a nerd or some creep, mostly I am good looking and was pretty popular in France. In NY, things are different I dress more classy that 95% of the kids at college (some end up thinking I’m gay because my shoes matches the color of myshirt) but whatever. I’ve been playing it for the past 2 years lonely guy walking in class confident and not speaking to anyone. Realized that most people know my name (which i never know theres) so that was an indicator that people probably have been babbling about me. IS got me 4 girls to come at my table where i was working in the library last week cause they needed help and they all knew my name apparently they were in my class. SO then I’m like yess this IS actually works, Anyways, I got IS and TUTH later on (is tuth appropriate for college). Now I’m trying TUTH with IS for college, but how much should i put of each?? (Tuth smells like urine to me though while IS smells really good). Figured since ive been playing the loner card for 2 years. How to alienate IS and TUTH for college?

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**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/2 "2012-02-09T08:44:29Z")

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may be what you need best is instant gentleman and some AMMO..

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**Author:** ![Nova512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/43a26b/32.png) [@Nova512](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nova512)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/3 "2012-02-09T08:53:25Z")

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> [@Aghor](#):
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> may be what you need best is instant gentleman and some AMMO..

Thanks for your consideration. Well IG, I feel I am already like that. While most college kids will like drinking bear and getting trashed, I like going in fine restaurant eat a sirloin with a glass of wine… Go find a 21 year college student who likes that..

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/4 "2012-02-09T09:34:15Z")

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You seem to have done quite well and maybe you should concentrate on IS and the more social products whilst keeping the TUTH for after college?

Or if you do use TUTH, keep the dose low. Maybe no more than a half spray to begin with and build to a spray or two. Partly because of your age and partly because TUTH sends a very immediate/overt sexual signal that is difficult to be congruent with in a class environment. If you sit there quietly whilst wearing TUTH, you can get taken as creepy or worse. Its signal is the chemical equivalent of sitting there with your cock out. Which is not always an attractive thing.

Have you any IO? - That is a decent social moderator for none and would go a long way to offsetting a good bit TUTH’s overtness but TBH, I’m thinking Aghor’s suggestion of IG and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) might be a much more attractive proposition for college - esp as you have style and taste. Keep the TUTH in your pocket for later. 😉

As for how much to use, we can’t really tell you that - You need to do your sweet spot testing to see what works with your own body chemistry and personality.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/5 "2012-02-09T10:21:10Z")

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I’ve actually used TUTH as a standalone quite a few times varying from 1-2 sprays. Do not be afraid of the -none my friend since you obviously have a popularity factor that people know you by, why not kick it up a notch. IMO it would go with the mysterious and interesting vibe that you give off, hence people knowing your name when you didn’t even know them.

Pair it with some shine just to give it some feel good vibes and let the good times roll

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 12:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/6 "2012-02-09T12:05:21Z")

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> [@Nova512](#):
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> Okey so before getting advice I need your thoughts. I go to college in NY, I am from France so I’m brand new here don’t know much people. The tick over here is I am far from being a nerd or some creep, mostly I am good looking and was pretty popular in France. In NY, things are different I dress more classy that 95% of the kids at college (some end up thinking I’m gay because my shoes matches the color of myshirt) but whatever. I’ve been playing it for the past 2 years lonely guy walking in class confident and not speaking to anyone. Realized that most people know my name (which i never know theres) so that was an indicator that people probably have been babbling about me. IS got me 4 girls to come at my table where i was working in the library last week cause they needed help and they all knew my name apparently they were in my class. SO then I’m like yess this IS actually works, Anyways, I got IS and TUTH later on (is tuth appropriate for college). Now I’m trying TUTH with IS for college, but how much should i put of each?? (Tuth smells like urine to me though while IS smells really good). Figured since ive been playing the loner card for 2 years. How to alienate IS and TUTH for college?

Welcome to America buddy! I have been to Europe and the way we dress is very different. I’m from NYC so fashion is big but still different compared to France.

Get out of the loner card and make some friends, besides most women I know love European men 😉 Also I think you made a good buy with IS and Tuth. As you can see IS is working for you, Tuth I suggest you use after the 1st date. At your age I think 1 spray if Tuth should be enough BUT test your sweet spot anyway.

I think IG isn’t a bad suggestion, when I use IG I get looks from younger women and I’m 36.

As far as IS + Tuth try it out, I think it should work great (that extra Tuth should let them know you are not just a friend).

Hope this helps and works out for you!

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**Author:** ![Nova512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/43a26b/32.png) [@Nova512](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nova512)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/7 "2012-02-12T13:16:18Z")

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> [@andromun](#):
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> Welcome to America buddy! I have been to Europe and the way we dress is very different. I’m from NYC so fashion is big but still different compared to France.
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> Get out of the loner card and make some friends, besides most women I know love European men 😉 Also I think you made a good buy with IS and Tuth. As you can see IS is working for you, Tuth I suggest you use after the 1st date. At your age I think 1 spray if Tuth should be enough BUT test your sweet spot anyway.
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> I think IG isn’t a bad suggestion, when I use IG I get looks from younger women and I’m 36.
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> As far as IS + Tuth try it out, I think it should work great (that extra Tuth should let them know you are not just a friend).
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> Hope this helps and works out for you!

Yep, I’m from NYC as well. I’m at NYU, and fashion is very different over here. Huge Sneakers big jeans. I’m more in a 3/4 coat a hermes belt mocassins, that kind. Though, I will never see that in college. What are your thoughts on Ammo ?? Should I get it or no? I notice girls are always looking at me (cafeteria elevator etc.. playing with their hair when they’re next to me). Though some things I still don’t get as well. I saw these girls from my class spitting on the streets?? Discussing how they got trashed with bear?? I mean call me old school conservative but I expected a bit more savoir-etre? It’s kind of horrible going from being somebody all your life, and coming to America and feeling like a nobody because you feel so different from everyone else.

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/8 "2012-02-12T15:00:47Z")

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I hear what you are saying, sneakers and jeans are the norm in NYC. I think you should wear what you like - however try to adopt a slightly American touch with your cloths as well. (One tip: get a black leather jacket seems like that is also big in NYC)

Okay enough with the fashion here. I think Ammo is great but considering your age 1x should be enough.

If you see girls checking you out and giving off IOI’s - they are begging for you to open them.

Don’t feel like a _ **nobody** _ because the culture is so different. Instead embrace it and have fun with it. Trust me when I say American women do love European men, also with your French accent you will get laid.

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**Author:** ![Nova512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/43a26b/32.png) [@Nova512](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nova512)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/9 "2012-02-14T13:31:18Z")

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> [@andromun](#):
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> I hear what you are saying, sneakers and jeans are the norm in NYC. I think you should wear what you like - however try to adopt a slightly American touch with your cloths as well. (One tip: get a black leather jacket seems like that is also big in NYC)
> 
> Okay enough with the fashion here. I think Ammo is great but considering your age 1x should be enough.
> 
> If you see girls checking you out and giving off IOI’s - they are begging for you to open them.
> 
> Don’t feel like a _ **nobody** _ because the culture is so different. Instead embrace it and have fun with it. Trust me when I say American women do love European men, also with your French accent you will get laid.

Thanks for the advice…

I got now IS, IG, TUTH, and AMMO ! Should I put all of them 4 or only 3 or what do you think

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**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/10 "2012-02-14T16:13:21Z")

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> [@Nova512](#):
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> Thanks for the advice…
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> I got now IS, IG, TUTH, and AMMO ! Should I put all of them 4 or only 3 or what do you think

Shy away from Tuth. I OD so easily on it and i’m 22.

Get some instant openness and instant honesty. Those two are by far my most favorite. You’ll be set with all of those.

Hell, i’ve become a BIG fan of a314. Pick up one of the spray togos. I bet you could get any girl with that accent and a bit of that haha.

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-is-tuth/54498/11 "2012-02-15T01:29:19Z")

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> [@Nova512](#):
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> Thanks for the advice…
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> I got now IS, IG, TUTH, and AMMO ! Should I put all of them 4 or only 3 or what do you think

I like the advice that _ **okyourbeast** _ offered - IO and IH are very solid and should work great. Ammo I think is a great addition because it works so damn well. However considering your age Tuth is very strong and I would only use that on 2nd and 3rd dates (if I was 22 again and in college).
