# advice on African Americans girls **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 27, 2011, 7:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510 "2011-11-27T07:48:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 7:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/1 "2011-11-27T07:48:39Z")
I know certain mixes works better than others on certain races. I’m an African American male. Which products or mixes work better on African American females? ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/2 "2011-11-27T16:52:48Z")
I love using [pheromones](https://a314.com/) around black women. I am caucasian for what it’s worth, and it makes black women that might not notice me normally take notice. It really works WONDERS. Go for something with androstenone, like ammo or TUTH and you will make wonderful things happen. ---
**Author:** ![WalrusGumBoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/walrusgumboot/32/1300_2.png) [@WalrusGumBoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WalrusGumBoot)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/3 "2011-11-27T17:20:59Z")
Just from my reading of the posts, higher none signatures work well with African American women than what would normally be used around Caucasian and Hispanic women. ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/4 "2011-11-27T17:29:00Z")
Agreed! Maybe round it out with a little bit of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for a nice finishing touch. 😛 But all in all, TUTH, Instant Jerk, and Ammo… maybe even a314… is the kind of things you are looking for. That alpha male signature for sure. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/5 "2011-12-06T14:32:20Z")
hmmm. Interesting. I normally just stick to IG and IO which works really well but IG has been out of stock for months and IO is currently $120 for 30ml 😃 . I think this is just faiths way of telling me I need to test something different. ammo and turn up the heat a314 it is then. I’ve used these products in the past before with limited results. I guess I may have pherobombed since it was back in my first order. Can you suggest mixes that incorporate both ammo and TUTH ? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/6 "2011-12-06T23:07:26Z")
Generally speaking they respond better to a higher none signature. So tuth, edge/npa/, Alpha 7 , Primal instinct , etc are all good. Not all are products sold here. I think ammo is good too but I’ve attracted nothing but whites with it. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/7 "2011-12-07T15:13:17Z")
My favorite **CHOCOLATE COATED** stimulator mix is 2 drops of A314 mixed with 2-3 drops of AE applied to the neck area … a tad bit to the wrist, and two sprays of IS to the face. For the younger crowd … AMMO with something social … IO, IG, IS. > [@alvin101](#): > > hmmm. Interesting. I normally just stick to **IG and IO** which works really well but IG has been out of stock for months and IO is currently $120 for 30ml 😃 . I think this is just faiths way of telling me I need to test something different. > > ammo and turn up the heat a314 it is then. I’ve used these products in the past before with limited results. I guess I may have pherobombed since it was back in my first order. Can you suggest mixes that incorporate both ammo and TUTH ? At what ratios, Alvin? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/8 "2011-12-08T01:51:33Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > My favorite **CHOCOLATE COATED** stimulator mix is 2 drops of A314 mixed with 2-3 drops of AE applied to the neck area … a tad bit to the wrist, and two sprays of IS to the face. > > For the younger crowd … AMMO with something social … IO, IG, IS. > > At what ratios, Alvin? > > Thanks! 2x IG 2x IO by far my favorite mix !!! learned this from the koolkat 😃 hmmm I’ve heard about this alter ego. I’ll have to give it shot. How well does it work for you with african americans? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/9 "2011-12-08T01:56:51Z")
> [@alvin101](#): > > 2x IG > 2x IO > > learned this from the koolkat 😃 Thanks! Yes, the Koolest of Kats is really Kool! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/10 "2011-12-09T02:12:35Z")
> [@alvin101](#): > > I know certain mixes works better than others on certain races. I’m an African American male. Which products or mixes work better on African American females? I’m African American as well, and while I appreciate the advice of the other fellas in this thread, I have to say that African American women hate -none (Instant Jerk, Turn up the Heat, Ammo) unless it’s formulated in a combo like that present in A314, and even then, you have to “pull it off”, the vibe I mean, or else they will hate you with that too (They really hate stuck up people, and fake folks) If you can pull it off though, I’ve noticed that higher value African American women will notice you and take to your approach better. Beyond that, you still need some game, but that’s okay, once the door is open, walk through it. Act the part. Another thing. Hate is a strong word here, and of course this is generally speaking. But this is my experience with the above products, as a handsome man that is pretty well calibrated in many social situations. Now, what I’ve found to work FANTASTICALLY well is IH. Yes, simple IH. Our women LOVE Instant Honesty. Really love it. And p74 too. FUN. That’s another great one. Gold. Instant Shine is great too in the mood department, but there is a caveat. What I mean is, as you probably have noticed, on us, they really don’t like, ahem, “fruity” smells. They like us to wear “deep” smells, like Dolce & Gabbana or on a lighter side of deepness/freshness, Cool Water, etc. IS is not deep. It is very citrisy. More so than IH or IO, whose scents really don’t come into play. The pheromone content of IS is also noticeable, at least to my nose…and not necessarily in a good way, but not a bad way either;… certainly not sexy. No more that 2 sprays. 3 tops if you wait a half hour, or are going outside for a bit first. But yes, IS is good as well. So to recap, Instant Honesty, p74, and Instant Shine are great by themselves. You will have a great time with just those products. A314 is great too if you can pull off the Alpha vibe without coming off as an aloof asshole. If you use it, add IH or p74 to make you more “reachable” and “connectable” to them. IS or P74 will “relax” the seriousness of it all. Remember, no more than two shots of IS (or 3, etc), but feel free to experiment, as they, and most other women, love how it makes them feel. Hell, so do I. You just don’t want to smell like a bag of oranges. Not a good look. I think you can order IS in the Akuto scent, but I am not sure, I never bothered. As for [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), older African American women love it too…alot. I say, 37 and up. This might be an across the board thing (whites, asians, latinas) but hey, it’s what I’ve noticed. This is not sexual though, not necessarily, but it’s definitely a door opener. IG and IH are a great combo for that age group. Of course some IS isn’t bad either. So if you need a mix Younger: 2-3xIH, 2xIS (2-3 drops of A314, not necessary though), 2xP74 if you can get some. 1xIS if using P74 too. Older: 2-3xIH, 1xIG, 2xIS (A314 is not necessary, neither is p74, but experiment) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/11 "2011-12-09T03:00:01Z")
> [@Journey](#): > > I’m African American as well, and while I appreciate the advice of the other fellas in this thread, I have to say that **African American women hate -none (Instant Jerk, Turn up the Heat, Ammo**) unless it’s formulated in a combo like that present in A314, and even then, you have to “pull it off”, the vibe I mean, or else they will hate you with that too (They really hate stuck up people, and fake folks) If you can pull it off though, I’ve noticed that higher value African American women will notice you and take to your approach better. Beyond that, you still need some game, but that’s okay, once the door is open, walk through it. Act the part. > > Another thing. Hate is a strong word here, and of course this is generally speaking. But this is my experience with the above products, as a handsome man that is pretty well calibrated in many social situations. > > Now, what I’ve found to work FANTASTICALLY well is IH. Yes, simple IH. Our women LOVE Instant Honesty. Really love it. And p74 too. FUN. That’s another great one. Gold. Instant Shine is great too in the mood department, but there is a caveat. What I mean is, as you probably have noticed, on us, they really don’t like, ahem, “fruity” smells. They like us to wear “deep” smells, like Dolce & Gabbana or on a lighter side of deepness/freshness, Cool Water, etc. IS is not deep. It is very citrisy. More so than IH or IO, whose scents really don’t come into play. The pheromone content of IS is also noticeable, at least to my nose…and not necessarily in a good way, but not a bad way either;… certainly not sexy. No more that 2 sprays. 3 tops if you wait a half hour, or are going outside for a bit first. But yes, IS is good as well. > > So to recap, Instant Honesty, p74, and Instant Shine are great by themselves. You will have a great time with just those products. A314 is great too if you can pull off the Alpha vibe without coming off as an aloof asshole. If you use it, add IH or p74 to make you more “reachable” and “connectable” to them. IS or P74 will “relax” the seriousness of it all. Remember, no more than two shots of IS (or 3, etc), but feel free to experiment, as they, and most other women, love how it makes them feel. Hell, so do I. You just don’t want to smell like a bag of oranges. Not a good look. I think you can order IS in the Akuto scent, but I am not sure, I never bothered. > > As for Instant Gentleman, older African American women love it too…alot. I say, 37 and up. This might be an across the board thing (whites, asians, latinas) but hey, it’s what I’ve noticed. This is not sexual though, not necessarily, but it’s definitely a door opener. IG and IH are a great combo for that age group. Of course some IS isn’t bad either. > > So if you need a mix > > Younger: 2-3xIH, 2xIS (2-3 drops of A314, not necessary though), 2xP74 if you can get some. 1xIS if using P74 too. > > Older: 2-3xIH, 1xIG, 2xIS (A314 is not necessary, neither is p74, but experiment) _ **FOOD FOR THOUGHT; and you can chase it with the beverage of your choice.** _ On my planet, that is so INCORRECT. It could very well be with your body chemistry, or your specific targets, but with mine … NO NO NO, Sir. Young and old have spit out compliments on just AMMO, and just TUTH, and I also mix them both at 2-2 when I’m in the mood to be bold. 😉 **The MORAL OF MY STORY:** This is WHY you need to TEST TEST TEST, and find out for yourselves what works and does NOT work for you, people. It’s so important to note what others SAY, and it’s MORE IMPORTANT to find out for yourselves. I WAS AFRAID TO OD is haunting a lot of people, and keeping them from finding out things on their own. TEST TEST TEST, and what YOU find out … is what works for YOU best. Not me, not Willis, not Waldo, not Ben, not Bob, not Rudolph, not Dancer, not … you get the point. 😉 Hi! I’m _ **M to the M** _, and I’m **chocolate-coated** , too! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/12 "2011-12-09T03:37:39Z")
LMBO @ Chocolate-coated 🙂 Interesting reference for yourself. I agree, test, test, test. And my personal tests say that African American women do not respond well to high concentrations of -none. Take Ammo for instance. After it dries, say, 3-4 hours in, it smells like pee. Not sexy. And they notice it. With it on, fragrance full strength, I only get “tolerated”. I am not used to being just “tolerated” as I get along pretty well with women in general. But again, that is **my** experience, just as your experience is your own. It could be that your personality is constituted in such a way that they ignore it on you, and are focused more on your personality than how you smell. It could be that your own natural pheromone production mixes well with -none. Who knows. I just know that the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) are a home-run with me, but perhaps, it is because I am social already, and they just enhance that? I don’t know friend. I can only report. This would make an interesting poll though amongst African American male users of pheromones, though. Cheers! EDIT: I will say this though. AMMO, the fragrance, smells damn good though, LOL! Just like Cool Water or Green Irish Tweed > [@M\_M](#): > > _ **FOOD FOR THOUGHT; and you can chase it with the beverage of your choice.** _ > > On my planet, that is so INCORRECT. It could very well be with your body chemistry, or your specific targets, but with mine … NO NO NO, Sir. Young and old have spit out compliments on just AMMO, and just TUTH, and I also mix them both at 2-2 when I’m in the mood to be bold. 😉 > > **The MORAL OF MY STORY:** This is WHY you need to TEST TEST TEST, and find out for yourselves what works and does NOT work for you, people. It’s so important to note what others SAY, and it’s MORE IMPORTANT to find out for yourselves. I WAS AFRAID TO OD is haunting a lot of people, and keeping them from finding out things on their own. > > TEST TEST TEST, and what YOU find out … is what works for YOU best. Not me, not Willis, not Waldo, not Ben, not Bob, not Rudolph, not Dancer, not … you get the point. 😉 > > Hi! I’m _ **M to the M** _, and I’m **chocolate-coated** , too! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/13 "2011-12-09T03:39:48Z")
> [@Journey](#): > > Now, what I’ve found to work FANTASTICALLY well is IH. Yes, simple IH. Our women LOVE Instant Honesty. Really love it. Thanks for the tip on IH! ---
**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/14 "2011-12-09T03:45:22Z")
> [@andromun](#): > > Thanks for the tip on IH! You’re welcome. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/15 "2011-12-09T03:46:47Z")
> [@Journey](#): > > I’m African American as well, and while I appreciate the advice of the other fellas in this thread, I have to say that African American women hate -none (Instant Jerk, Turn up the Heat, Ammo) unless it’s formulated in a combo like that present in A314, and even then, you have to “pull it off”, the vibe I mean, or else they will hate you with that too (They really hate stuck up people, and fake folks) If you can pull it off though, I’ve noticed that higher value African American women will notice you and take to your approach better. Beyond that, you still need some game, but that’s okay, once the door is open, walk through it. Act the part… Can I infer that maybe this because you naturally have really high none? I’m going to suggest that. I don’t think most people can get away with only solid socials but if you already have really high none signature then more none would work to devistating effect in a not so good way. But if you already got really high none… then socials only makes sense. Have you tried none with A1 to see if that buffers them any? ---
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/16 "2011-12-09T03:48:45Z")
> [@Journey](#): > > I’m African American as well, and while I appreciate the advice of the other fellas in this thread, I have to say that African American women hate -none (Instant Jerk, Turn up the Heat, Ammo) unless it’s formulated in a combo like that present in A314, and even then, you have to “pull it off”, the vibe I mean, or else they will hate you with that too (They really hate stuck up people, and fake folks) If you can pull it off though, I’ve noticed that higher value African American women will notice you and take to your approach better. Beyond that, you still need some game, but that’s okay, once the door is open, walk through it. Act the part. > > Another thing. Hate is a strong word here, and of course this is generally speaking. But this is my experience with the above products, as a handsome man that is pretty well calibrated in many social situations. > > Now, what I’ve found to work FANTASTICALLY well is IH. Yes, simple IH. Our women LOVE Instant Honesty. Really love it. And p74 too. FUN. That’s another great one. Gold. Instant Shine is great too in the mood department, but there is a caveat. What I mean is, as you probably have noticed, on us, they really don’t like, ahem, “fruity” smells. They like us to wear “deep” smells, like Dolce & Gabbana or on a lighter side of deepness/freshness, Cool Water, etc. IS is not deep. It is very citrisy. More so than IH or IO, whose scents really don’t come into play. The pheromone content of IS is also noticeable, at least to my nose…and not necessarily in a good way, but not a bad way either;… certainly not sexy. No more that 2 sprays. 3 tops if you wait a half hour, or are going outside for a bit first. But yes, IS is good as well. > > So to recap, Instant Honesty, p74, and Instant Shine are great by themselves. You will have a great time with just those products. A314 is great too if you can pull off the Alpha vibe without coming off as an aloof asshole. If you use it, add IH or p74 to make you more “reachable” and “connectable” to them. IS or P74 will “relax” the seriousness of it all. Remember, no more than two shots of IS (or 3, etc), but feel free to experiment, as they, and most other women, love how it makes them feel. Hell, so do I. You just don’t want to smell like a bag of oranges. Not a good look. I think you can order IS in the Akuto scent, but I am not sure, I never bothered. > > As for Instant Gentleman, older African American women love it too…alot. I say, 37 and up. This might be an across the board thing (whites, asians, latinas) but hey, it’s what I’ve noticed. This is not sexual though, not necessarily, but it’s definitely a door opener. IG and IH are a great combo for that age group. Of course some IS isn’t bad either. > > So if you need a mix > > Younger: 2-3xIH, 2xIS (2-3 drops of A314, not necessary though), 2xP74 if you can get some. 1xIS if using P74 too. > > Older: 2-3xIH, 1xIG, 2xIS (A314 is not necessary, neither is p74, but experiment) hmmm very interesting. what does p74 do? and what concentrations do you recommend for p74? I’d like to test but it seems that everything in the store is either out of stock(IG IS P74) or overpriced (IH IO $120 for 30ml) . This means the only available consumer line products are a314, ammo and TUTH.☹ What do you thinks going on with AD? I have an old bottle of IH. I’ll have to test tomorrow with A314 ---
**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/17 "2011-12-09T04:46:30Z")
> [@Professor\_P](#): > > Can I infer that maybe this because you naturally have really high none? I’m going to suggest that. I don’t think most people can get away with only solid socials but if you already have really high none signature then more none would work to devistating effect in a not so good way. But if you already got really high none… then socials only makes sense. Have you tried none with A1 to see if that buffers them any? You know, I never really did buy the “African Americans and Latinos” produce more -none deal. I just never found any actual research, other than various posts by people, and people copying and pasting those posts. If you could, could you point me to some actual research on this? I’d appreciate it. The reason I never bought that idea is that I’m not an “aggressive” kind of guy per se, except when gaming maybe…what folks are calling nowadays “direct game” (lol)… and based upon what -none is supposed to do to people, I only experience those negative effects when I wear it, generally speaking. I’ve had 3 white girlfriends in the past (2 Italian, 1 I honestly have no idea…she said she was part German…okay), I’ve had a couple of Spanish ladies, and 1 Korean girlfriend (U.S. born, not sure if that makes a difference)…basically, I’m supposed to have difficulty with those populations…but I’ve never had that problem. In fact, I get along great with them. I dunno. But socials are fantastic; they make gaming so much easier when people just open up…to you…like that. Awesome stuff! And in work relationships, socials are almost a must have, especially while competing with those around you. They “lube” interaction in a wonderful way. ---
**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/18 "2011-12-09T05:00:27Z")
> [@alvin101](#): > > hmmm very interesting. what does p74 do? and what concentrations do you recommend for p74? > > I’d like to test but it seems that everything in the store is either out of stock(IG IS P74) or overpriced (IH IO $120 for 30ml) . This means the only available consumer line products are a314, ammo and TUTH.☹ What do you thinks going on with AD? > > I have an old bottle of IH. I’ll have to test tomorrow with A314 The economy friend. At least that is my theory. Prices for materials and such are higher, especially if there are not as many people buying as there used to be. Things will taper out. I am amazed at the fact that a small company like AD is still moving along in it’s business in the current economic environment; a testament to it’s strong leadership, I imagine. In the meantime, get the To-Go bottles. There are approx. 40 or so odd sprays in each bottle, enough to test for two weeks per bottle at 3 sprays per day. That way you can try the product, and if you like it, save and purchase the larger bottles for your usage. Here’s a review I did 4 years ago when I [first tested P74](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-review/7902). Good times 🙂 Also, do a forum search for [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), and read up on the experience of others. For me, it is about Focus, Fun, and Connection. Very enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/19 "2011-12-09T17:51:54Z")
> [@Journey](#): > > Older: **2-3xIH, 1xIG, 2xIS** (A314 is not necessary, neither is p74, but experiment) Are these from TO-GO bottles, J; normal strengths? I have to hit a party tomorrow night, and I’ve decided to put your SOCIAL mix to the test. This party will be a house party full of drinkers, smokers and tokers, and I’ll leave the -none at home. Well, not really … I’ll carry a TO-GO of -none in me pocket just in case I _ **FEEL THE NEED FER SPEED** _. 😉 Wish me luck! 😃 To be continued … ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/20 "2011-12-09T18:33:41Z")
I have a lot of friends who are darker skinned than I (can’t use African American because I have friends all over the world). Some can get away with heavy none, some cannot. What’s interesting is that one night a friend here in Memphis and I wore the same thing. The only difference is he is African American and the reaction from most African American women was completely opposite to the both of us. On me they reacted very well to heavy none and on him they just ignored. In another situation a friend in Europe had heavy none on and the reception was incredible. I used to wear heavy none in the Caribbean, when I lived there, and the response was favorable. I really believe it has more to do with the individual. Anyone here can have an opinion, but in the end its all how you carry yourself and you just aren’t going to be able to determine how someone is going to react, until they react. There are other members who have responded to this thread who are also African American. Its all relative to the person. No one can say what is the end all, be all of what’s going to work. Test it out for yourself. Journey is a great example of what works for him, but wouldn’t necessarily work for you. I’ve used IH around many African American women here in Memphis and the results were far from ideal. When I use TUTH I get excellent results. All this says is we both have different body chemistry and what works for one person doesn’t mean it will work for everyone. Keep in mind also that the none in A314 is miniscule. Its basically not even detectable from what I remember Harris posting about it. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510.md?page=2)