# advice on African Americans girls

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 27, 2011, 7:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510 "2011-11-27T07:48:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/21 "2011-12-09T19:30:03Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> Are these from TO-GO bottles, J; normal strengths?
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> I have to hit a party tomorrow night, and I’ve decided to put your SOCIAL mix to the test. This party will be a house party full of drinkers, smokers and tokers, and I’ll leave the -none at home. Well, not really … I’ll carry a TO-GO of -none in me pocket just in case I _ **FEEL THE NEED FER SPEED** _. 😉
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> Wish me luck! 😃
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> To be continued …

Correct on both accounts! LOL, sounds like good times, let us know what happens!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/22 "2011-12-09T19:45:49Z")

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HAHA, didn’t even notice a whole page 2.

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**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/23 "2011-12-09T20:15:25Z")

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Well said Steve. I can agree on the different individual body chemistry idea, and have noticed that my own responses to IS and AMMO in particular are interesting. Initially, while I enjoyed how IS made me feel, I did not like the smell (of [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), or the Pheromone). I now tolerate both, and they don’t seem “as bad” as they used to be. As for AMMO, for the first 3-4 hours I wear it, I’m okay, but afterwards I feel crappy with it on and…unsettled, if that makes any sense. Agitated maybe is a better word. Near the end of my testing I learned to apply it to my wrists because I just could not stand it on my neck (my favorite application point for pheromones)

> [@Steve](#):
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> I have a lot of friends who are darker skinned than I (can’t use African American because I have friends all over the world). Some can get away with heavy none, some cannot. What’s interesting is that one night a friend here in Memphis and I wore the same thing. The only difference is he is African American and the reaction from most African American women was completely opposite to the both of us. On me they reacted very well to heavy none and on him they just ignored.
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> In another situation a friend in Europe had heavy none on and the reception was incredible. I used to wear heavy none in the Caribbean, when I lived there, and the response was favorable.
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> I really believe it has more to do with the individual. Anyone here can have an opinion, but in the end its all how you carry yourself and you just aren’t going to be able to determine how someone is going to react, until they react. There are other members who have responded to this thread who are also African American. Its all relative to the person. No one can say what is the end all, be all of what’s going to work. Test it out for yourself.
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> Journey is a great example of what works for him, but wouldn’t necessarily work for you. I’ve used IH around many African American women here in Memphis and the results were far from ideal. When I use TUTH I get excellent results. All this says is we both have different body chemistry and what works for one person doesn’t mean it will work for everyone.
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> Keep in mind also that the none in A314 is miniscule. Its basically not even detectable from what I remember Harris posting about it.

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**Author:** ![Sarafina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Sarafina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sarafina)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/24 "2011-12-09T20:53:14Z")

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Black man looking to attract black women? Figured your kind were extinct.

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**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/25 "2011-12-10T01:37:24Z")

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> [@Sarafina](#):
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> Black man looking to attract black women? Figured your kind were extinct.

???

Wow. Didn’t see that one coming, LMBO!

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/26 "2011-12-11T04:52:37Z")

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> [@Sarafina](#):
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> Black man looking to attract black women? Figured your kind were extinct.

What planet are you on, Lady S? :o 🙄

> [@Journey](#):
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> Correct on both accounts! LOL, sounds like good times, let us know what happens!

I chickened out! :o

Went with 3 drops of AE to the neck pulse points and jaw line, 20 mcgs of TAC to bhe back of the neck, 5 mcgs of TUTH to the tummy, and 6 sprays (the TO-GO wasn’t spraying well) of IH all to the face and head.

Laughter, hugs, and stares for the two hours I was there. For some reason … EVERYTHING SEEMED LIKE A HIT, so no comments on what was or what wasn’t.

This has been an M to the M’s **‘I HAVE NOTHING TO REALLY SHARE’** report. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Sarafina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Sarafina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sarafina)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/27 "2011-12-11T05:25:50Z")

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I dont know any straight male who uses emoticons so much.

anyway Planet Earth. You can pretend to not understand my comment, that’s fine as this isnt the venue to discuss such matters anyway

enjoy the pheros 🙂

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/28 "2011-12-11T05:34:56Z")

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> [@Sarafina](#):
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> I dont know any straight male who uses emoticons so much.
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> anyway Planet Earth. You can pretend to not understand my comment, that’s fine as **this isnt the venue to discuss such matters anyway**
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> enjoy the pheros 🙂

Well, my darling … YOU DO NOW. 😉

**Exact-cally.**

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**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/29 "2011-12-11T08:11:25Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> What planet are you on, Lady S? :o 🙄

LOL!!! I thought the same thing. I figured it was best to just ignore her though. Not important anyway.

> [@M\_M](#):
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> I chickened out! :o
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> Went with 3 drops of AE to the neck pulse points and jaw line, 20 mcgs of TAC to bhe back of the neck, 5 mcgs of TUTH to the tummy, and 6 sprays (the TO-GO wasn’t spraying well) of IH all to the face and head.
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> Laughter, hugs, and stares for the two hours I was there. For some reason … EVERYTHING SEEMED LIKE A HIT, so no comments on what was or what wasn’t.
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> This has been an M to the M’s **‘I HAVE NOTHING TO REALLY SHARE’** report. 🙄

Hmmm, I actually like your “report that’s not a report” 🙂 It’s given me some ideas for experimentation. I’ve been out of the Phero game for awhile now and never really gave myself a chance to try TAC. I wasn’t even aware of the AE product. (Apparently a mix of -none, -rone, and something else)…and there are some other things that warrant a further look than I gave the first time around long ago. Satisfaction is a progress killer, LOL.

I dunno, I think my experimenting for the sake of experimenting days might be back soon 🙂 This is fun, LOL!

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/30 "2011-12-11T16:34:33Z")

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> [@Journey](#):
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> LOL!!! I thought the same thing. I figured it was best to just ignore her though. Not important anyway.
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> Hmmm, I actually like your “report that’s not a report” 🙂 It’s given me some ideas for experimentation. I’ve been out of the Phero game for awhile now and never really gave myself a chance to try TAC. I wasn’t even aware of the AE product. (Apparently a mix of -none, -rone, and something else)…and there are some other things that warrant a further look than I gave the first time around long ago. Satisfaction is a progress killer, LOL.
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> I dunno, I think my experimenting for the sake of experimenting days might be back soon 🙂 This is fun, LOL!

TEACHING is always important, Sir. 😉 There are LOTS and LOTS of people out there on both sides of the fence that thinks and feels that way. There are LOTS and LOTS still left, that would NOT dare cross that line. Just wanted her to know that she’s not alone; and that I am straight as of today. IF that changes tomorrow … I’m gonna be pissed!!! 😃 AS THE WORLD TURNS … have yourselves a Pepsi. :o 😃

I would advise to give both a thorough testing. If I were to ever tell anyone to purchase anything other than products from AD, it would be AE and the JB1 mix (APC:NPA). I, personally, purchase from no other place. 🙄

I’m not one to pinpoint what a product does for some reason, after years and years of playing around. But I swear, last night … I felt TAC was softening people in my cloud. For instance, there were two young blonds that I have never ever met, and had NOT exchanged a word with either after being at the party for about 30 minutes. We were standing around talking when someone was getting ready to take my picture, and there was this Michelle Pfeiffer cute/slim blond standing about a foot a way … I just walked over to her, put my head on her shoulder for the picture. She quickly put her head against mine, and posed for the picture.

Another, was standing by while I was talking trash (jokingly) with my little short female friend, and I was saying, **“I LOVE IT WHEN A WOMAN LOOKS UP AT ME.”** Heavy set, cutee, blond, green eyes … YUMMEE! … says, **“I’m tall enough to not have to look up to you!”** I walk over and get just close enough, maybe an inch, to see. She was tall, but she had to look up. She pushes her boobs into my chest, looks up, I look down at her, and says, _ **“That’s hot, right there! Green eyes looking up at Daddy!”** _ My friend says, **“But she’s not scared of you!”** I say, **“She should be!!!”**  **“Why!?”** I didn’t answer, I just showed her my teeth. 😉

I’ve said all that to say, I don’t REALLY think that there’s a mone that’s designed for black or white … I think everything depends on the radar (nose) of the target. And then again, it could be the BODY CHEMISTRY THING at hand.

To be continued …

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**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/31 "2011-12-14T01:14:57Z")

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> [@Journey](#):
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> You know, I never really did buy the “African Americans and Latinos” produce more -none deal. I just never found any actual research, other than various posts by people, and people copying and pasting those posts. If you could, could you point me to some actual research on this? I’d appreciate it.

LOL! No no no. You mistake me. I was talking about YOU personally. I wasn’t connecting anything to race specifically. I have heard that. Yes. Just because you aren’t aggressive doesn’t mean your body doesn’t produce high amounts of testosterone (how is your sex drive as they would say? 😛). None is essentially body waste produced from excess testosterone (from what I’ve gathered). When you think about it, it makes sense.

Why are none rage and roid rage so similar? Because they are the same thing. All those steroids shoots your testosterone through the roof which means you are going to produce a lot of excess which is going to be excreted as none. Your none signature goes through the roof. And for those people effected that way by high none, you get roid rage (which is actually probably really high none rage).

I find just wearing extra none working out gives me a lot more energy. I’m not a violent or aggressive person so even high levels of none doesn’t make me aggressive necessarily either. But I definitely can push myself harder and lift more and more aggressively when I get a nice little none signature going. _Shrugs_

So no. We all have different signatures. So what I’m saying is can I infer that maybe you personally (race and all statistics aside) have a naturally high none signature? To me, that would explain why you get such different results than these others because for most it doesn’t seem like simply socials works. 😛 _shrugs_ I could be wrong but that’s just my guess here. Definitely no intent to offend by any means. 😛

As for Sarafina, ACTUALLY… it depends on where you live, but I’ve heard this kind of complaint from black women A LOT. So I totally understand. I think all races have their merits personally. I’ve dated a wide variety of women. But judging by where I live, I definitely can see such complaints being pretty well founded. Just saying. 😛 But of course, I think it definitely depends on where you live and what to social and racial climate is like to be sure.

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**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-on-african-americans-girls/53510/32 "2011-12-19T18:17:31Z")

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_shameless plug_ [Nome behavorial studies - Special Report 1: Observations and Why TUTH scares me...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nome-behavorial-studies-special-report-1-observations-and-why-tuth-scares-me/53821)

Ironically… I just posted a big blog/post/whatever about my experiences. I’d DEFINITELY SAY TAC and get it at 25mcg. I know it might cost a little extra but it will save you money in the long run because you are going to want to use this in 25 to 50mcg doses anyways.

I have both and as far as comfort… TAC is far superior. I guess A1 is good for pmsing girls to help tone them down a little. It can be an interest getter too I guess. It might have a bit more as far as additional applications. I wasn’t terribly impressed with it. But maybe it’s better than I think.

What I can say is that the comfort I’ve seen from TAC is unmatched. It’s magic. Feel free to read my comments under the TAC section of my full post. I just hope you use it right and it works wonder for you, too. (Works well with other socials like IH for even more comfort/connection.) It’s been worth every penny for me and my mixes. I can only speak from person experience… but it is possibly my favorite phero in their whole collection after what I’ve experienced using it. 😃

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