# Aggression and Ammo?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 21, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611 "2012-12-21T12:38:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Meowington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Meowington](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Meowington)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611/1 "2012-12-21T12:38:37Z")

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Hey guys,

Just recently borrowed a bottle of Ammo from a friend (never knew he was a fellow pherorer!) and tried a spray on the wrists, spread to the sides of the neck.

-Never have tried Ammo before.  
-I normally wear MX413 2 sprays, IH 1 spray, IO 1 spray, IS or [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) 2 sprays.  
-If I’m going to hang out with a girl, I switch the aforementioned setup up with some P83.

Went to a bar with some friends, 3 dudes, and they were all pretty on edge?

They were quick to comment on nearly anything I said, constantly tried to neg me while trying to chat up girls that came to us/we approached.

As for the opposite sex, I caught a lot of IOIs and tried to react to them as fluidly as possible. (I’m not really well-versed with PUA lingo, but it seems like the norm on this forum so I’m just gonna go with it)

By the end of the night I sort of just broke off and did my own thing.

I’ve been using pheros since July and admittedly have never OD or pherobombed, I sort of just felt out the boundaries slowly.

These 3 friends of mine have all hung out with me while I slowly compiled my phero setup, and never have I gotten a reaction like this.

I’m liking the Ammo, I just need a way to like, downplay the aggression? How’s Ammo Summer Edition?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611/2 "2012-12-21T14:28:39Z")

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I think you just did OD on the none in the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). - Do I get it right that you used three sprays?

To offset the none, you could use fewer sprays and/or some IO ot IO/IS to moderate it further.

Yes, summer Ammo is a good alternative, esp for younger folk - Although the primary pheros are the same, the TAA/P130 in the mix will help moderate/soften its impact somewhat, although you may still need a little of something else.

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**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611/3 "2012-12-21T19:09:18Z")

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How did you find out your friend also used [pheromones](https://a314.com/)? 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611/4 "2012-12-22T04:21:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Just recently borrowed a bottle of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) from a friend (never knew he was a fellow pherorer!) and tried **a spray on the wrists, spread to the sides of the neck.**

“A spray” would indicate 1 spray. You shouldnt get aggression with that. Even two sprays should have been fine in most cases. 5.0 mcgs of anone is not a whole heck of a lot and Ammo is well buffered.

The Aggression could have been caused by the IOU’s you getting and not a reaction to the mones. Jealousy and competativenerss exist with or without mones.

If you notice it continues then add some Ishine or P74 to create more harmony

Tisha

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611/5 "2012-12-22T07:20:35Z")

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I got TERRIBLE jealousy and competitiveness when wearing ammo out at night at 3 sprays. Soon as I went home and buffered with IS it went away.

Lesson learned don’t wear ammo on its own if its causing such aggression or cut the dose. I literally had a black woman screaming at me from 15 feet away trying to pick me up when I was with someone else.. She was saying things like “don’t I know you, aren’t you xxx husband”.. It was scary.

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**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2012, 8:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611/6 "2012-12-22T08:31:07Z")

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Maybe your friends just don’t know you like that. They get confused because you project a different vibe and challenge you.

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**Author:** ![Meowington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Meowington](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Meowington)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2012, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggression-and-ammo/57611/7 "2012-12-22T08:58:27Z")

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> [@21wq](#):
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> How did you find out your friend also used pheromones? 🙂

Really funny story actually.

I was with my friend’s girlfriend, we were picking up a cake to bring back to the house for a birthday.

I greeted her as she came into the bakeshop (mind you, this place is a bakeshop; the smell of fresh baked goods is just overwhelming) with a kiss on the cheek and I audibly heard her take a whiff.

“Oh, not you too! How did X get you onto pheros too?”

My brain just like froze. Then she started talking about her dad, a widower, got back into the dating game using IO, IS, IH, etc. and that he then passed those onto my friend.

So, it’s actually like a weird family of pheros?

As for the aggression from regular Ammo, I looked into Ammo SE and saw it had buffers pre-installed (TAA/P130) so I ordered a 30ml.

I’ll report back after field testing!
