# Aggressive verbal diarrhea from an arrogant guy while wearing TUTH+IShine+P130 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 12, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggressive-verbal-diarrhea-from-an-arrogant-guy-while-wearing-tuth-ishine-p130/66384 "2016-09-12T15:11:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggressive-verbal-diarrhea-from-an-arrogant-guy-while-wearing-tuth-ishine-p130/66384/1 "2016-09-12T15:11:46Z")
Yesterday morning, my friend (call him Ed, a fake name) invited me to hang out at his house in late afternoon; to watch 90’s movies, with 5 people in total. A nostalgia thing of sorts. Out of goodwill, I took the time to find a 90’s beer: Red Dog, which is very rare nowadays. Along with old-time snacks, like Bugles, and nacho cheese to pour over them. However, he later texted me and hold me that one other friend (call him J, for “judgmental”, which you will see below) will be there too. That’s when I had that “uh oh!” feeling, since I’ve met J before, and did not enjoy his company. While he’s been _mostly_ civil to me, save for a verbal jab or two, his body language just radiates arrogance. And those are the kind of people I avoid whenever possible, with or without [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). Unfortunately, Ed admires him and hangs out with him quite often, so I try my best to get along, if I can’t exclude J. Before heading out, I made what later turned out to be a mistake. I guess my intent was to see how J reacts to the pheromones, maybe stupidly so. I wore the following: TUTH: 2 sprays, 1 on each side of neck IShine: 2 sprays, 1 on each temple P130: 1 spray, on forehead **It started out OK** I requested Uber and came over to Ed’s house. He laughed at the 30-pack of Red Dog I brought, and complimented me on finding it. Other guys had positive reactions too, even though the beer tastes kind of nasty. We set up the food, and sat down to drink beer and watch movies. We got through only one movie, “Shawshank Redemption”, until people got bored. And drunk. **Then aggression came out** We decided to change things up and play video games. Modern ones, not 90’s. While we were playing “Call of Duty” on Ed’s Play Station 2, J said something that sounded dirty. So I came back with “That’s what she said!”. I use that joke semi-regularly in my other social circles, and people react either positively or neutrally to it. One girl even seems to love it, and gets flirty with me when I do it. (I may post a separate thread about her at a later time.) J was different. He went ballistic on me, going into a massive barrage of verbal diarrhea about being "mature and a “good man”. I countered that I was just doing normal guy humor, but that only made things worse. He kept saying that he wanted to help me be “more mature” and a “better man” like him. But I read in psychology literature, that anyone claiming to “want to help” while being aggressive about it is a textbook example of an abuser. I tried to change the topic: to the irony of using a smartphone while watching a 90’s movie, eating a 90’s snack, and drinking a 90’s beer. I even promised J not to say “That’s what she said!” around him. I just wanted to end the conversation, and let J vent his aggression into Call of Duty instead. That only made things worse: J went off on me again, saying that call I can think about is beer and video games. Ed tried to calm J down, but without success. Other three guys acted as non-intervening bystanders. **Conclusion** I finally got fed up with J, and decided to promptly leave. I told people I wanted to be alone for a little bit, excused myself to step outside for a smoke, and never came back. I went walking around the lake in a park three blocks away for over an hour until I calmed down, and ignored all calls and texts. Then I requested Uber. Once I got home, I blocked J on all social media accounts I have. God help me if he finds me on here. **Theory on what happened** I think two things did me in here: TUTH and P130. TUTH made J overtly aggressive with me, and P130 made me look weak. Which created a perfect s\_itstorm for J’s behavior. What does everyone else think? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggressive-verbal-diarrhea-from-an-arrogant-guy-while-wearing-tuth-ishine-p130/66384/2 "2016-09-12T18:25:18Z")
That will be the TUTH bringing out the aggressive response and the [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) facilitating it’s expression (rather than making you look weak) - IS might have helped a little too. Your more forward/in your face sig threatened his perceived place in the social pecking order and he tried to assert himself over you. Personally I would have rattled his cage a bit but it’s your call about how he might react. Ime these guys usually back down when you either brush them off or tell them to put-up or shut-up. Next time, wear lots of IJ, P75 and maybe A314 - then tell him to swallow his own dick before you feed it to him! 😉 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aggressive-verbal-diarrhea-from-an-arrogant-guy-while-wearing-tuth-ishine-p130/66384/3 "2016-09-12T18:40:04Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Personally I would have rattled his cage a bit but it’s your call about how he might react. Ime these guys usually back down when you either brush them off or tell them to put-up or shut-up. > > Next time, wear lots of IJ, P75 and maybe A314 - then tell him to swallow his own dick before you feed it to him! 😉 😃 As much as I would have like to do that, it wasn’t a viable option. He was “smart” enough to frame his verbal diarrhea as being a helpful friend teaching me to live a better life. It’s a textbook case of gaslighting, but try explaining _that_ to the other four guys who ate it up with a spoon, including my friend Ed. (Ed’s a great guy, but I facepalm myself at how trusting he is sometimes!) So if anything, I’d look bad in the end. Not to mention, J is an amateur weightlifter, so fighting him would have resulted in as much humiliation as leaving the party. Perhaps it’s a bad idea to use TUTH at private homes and/or in small groups (except when cutting through LMR). I’ve worn TUTH in public clubs and at large parties, and had decent success with it. I also own A314 (less than 1/4 bottle left), but not [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) or IJ. But I’m saving A314 for more important things than a douchebag like J. Namely, for meetings at work and for another open house at a private fetish club I went to before.