# All in One **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214 "2010-06-09T18:38:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kroma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5e925/32.png) [@kroma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kroma)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214/1 "2010-06-09T18:38:29Z")
I have a suggestion for the pheromone people behind these great products… My question is why don’t you mix the pheromones together as it seems a lot of users do already? Why don’t you just put it in one bottle for different occasions such as [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) with Instant Openess and A134 with Turn Up The Heat, with AMMO It’ll cost the buyer less money, and can sell a lot more products.. What do you guys think about this idea? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214/2 "2010-06-09T18:57:48Z")
> [@kroma](#): > > I have a suggestion for the pheromone people behind these great products… > > My question is why don’t you mix the pheromones together as it seems a lot of users do already? Why don’t you just put it in one bottle for different occasions such as > > Instant Shine with Instant Openess > > and A134 with Turn Up The Heat, with AMMO > > It’ll cost the buyer less money, and can sell a lot more products.. What do you guys think about this idea? There are a myriad of situations in which that specific mix might or might not work. Also “sweet spots” for different users are different so that a predetermined mcg mix of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) might not work as well as it would for each individual. The purpose of the instant line is to be able to layer the products and make the mixes on the skin directly. When people say 4x, 3x, they do it because they’ve found that that is what works the best for them. For example if IS 45 mcg total (3 sprays @ 15mcg a spray from a 30ml Bottle) and IO @ 30 mcg total (2 sprays @ 15mcg per spray from a 30ml bottle) works wonders for persons A, B, C, D, E. However Person F,G,H,I might need 30 mcg total of IS and 45 mcg total of IO. J, K, L, M, N. Needs a 50/50 balance. That’s why the instant line was made and the ExperiMone series. You can customize the results based on what you need at that time. ---
**Author:** ![kroma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5e925/32.png) [@kroma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kroma)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214/3 "2010-06-09T19:08:43Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > There are a myriad of situations in which that specific mix might or might not work. Also “sweet spots” for different users are different so that a predetermined mcg mix of pheromones might not work as well as it would for each individual. The purpose of the instant line is to be able to layer the products and make the mixes on the skin directly. When people say 4x, 3x, they do it because they’ve found that that is what works the best for them. For example if IS 45 mcg total (3 sprays @ 15mcg a spray from a 30ml Bottle) and IO @ 30 mcg total (2 sprays @ 15mcg per spray from a 30ml bottle) works wonders for persons A, B, C, D, E. However Person F,G,H,I might need 30 mcg total of IS and 45 mcg total of IO. J, K, L, M, N. Needs a 50/50 balance. That’s why the instant line was made and the ExperiMone series. You can customize the results based on what you need at that time. I never knew you would have to go so far in depth with a specific number, considering some of the pheromones are to make an effect on “other people”.. which obviously you would not know how much or little they can inhale… If it was for your one self, such as [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) then I would see the complication… but if your using “Turn Up The Heat” how can you define what’s best for the other person? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214/4 "2010-06-09T19:20:34Z")
> [@kroma](#): > > I never knew you would have to go so far in depth with a specific number, considering some of the pheromones are to make an effect on “other people”.. which obviously you would not know how much or little they can inhale… If it was for your one self, such as Instant Shine then I would see the complication… but if your using “Turn Up The Heat” how can you define what’s best for the other person? Typically with TUTH, the general idea is the younger you are, the more androstenone that you produce. There are also criteria that you have to look at; age, race, sensitivity. The younger the female, the more sensitive they are to -none, you can buffer these with socials like IO, IH, IS. Moreover, asian women are more sensitive to -none than caucasin, spanish, african, women. Remember also that pheromones are naturally produced by your body. Factors include your age, race, physical fitness, metabolism. The younger you are, the more you will produce none regularly, also caucasians produce more -none than asians do, but being physically fit also alters that. It’s best to try 2.5 mcg per spray at at time, which from a to-go bottle of TUTH that’s the output of the -none content. I know there’s so much that has to go into. So let’s say you’re a caucasian male that’s 18 years old going for a caucasian girl that’s of the same age. You can safely use 2.5 - 5.0 mcg of -nopne (2 sprays of TUTH) that are buffered with socials to see where your spot is for that specific person. Now lets say you’re going after an asian girl. I would maybe just use something like AMMO with socials to even buffer the -none more and more. These are BASIC guidelines when it comes to testing pheromones out. You will get different results from different factos as well; ie diffusion (affected by outside temp and how much your body releases heat), women’s ovulation period, woman’s overall mood. Once you have a grasp on what the products do and look at some of the research (try searching for catlord, tacitus, k-train, Steve, Radman, JesseJester, happytappin, WildFlower, geogi) they should have journals and could follow their posts, tish23 also has great insights and you may find her posts very helpful as well. There are others I haven’t mentioned but I gave you the names of the people I frequently look at to make decisions regarding choices in pheromones. Its best to get a guideline and customize it for your own personality and body chemistry. Happy testing. ---
**Author:** ![kroma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5e925/32.png) [@kroma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kroma)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214/5 "2010-06-09T19:26:16Z")
wow, it seems I have some homework to do.. thank you for your indepth responses I’ll study hard and become a [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Obi-Wan! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214/6 "2010-06-09T19:44:36Z")
> [@kroma](#): > > wow, it seems I have some homework to do.. thank you for your indepth responses I’ll study hard and become a Pheromone Obi-Wan! The key is to have fun, enjoy the social situation, and don’t rely on the pheromones for everything. To the star wars reference. Imagine pheromones being the midichlorians in your cells. Being apt to the “force” takes training and experiences. The become the better Jedi, you need to work harmoniously with the midichlorians. Essentially it’s your congruence with said pheromones, learning to pick up hits or IOI’s, learning how to use it to enhance your personality. I’ve had some fun when experimenting with pheromones, it’s helped me grow in social interactions and helped me become more comfortable in my skin, revealing who I really am and become more confident in what I do. Wish you the best of luck and feel free to keep asking questions on the forum. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-in-one/39214/7 "2010-06-10T02:02:22Z")
This was your fathers A314, an elegant pheromone, from a more…civilized age. To really answer the question, the products as they are, are very “desired effect specific” Granted most people will mix and match but as they even say on the ad website the products are not one size fits all. What you want and expect from pheromones can be quite different from what I want. A guy that needs to be fairly strong and intimidating in the office could do well with A314 by itself, me? I work with a bunch of females (some of whom I am considering sleeping with) I also do sales with a clientele that’s 70% female so adding some IH, Shine, and or TuTH works great for me. Then you have to consider that some products might send too conflicting a message. A314 has a little none, and depending on what effects you want you can possibly give it a little boost with some Ammo or TuTH, but a really high dose none product like IJ might be too much and kill the mature distinguished vibe that A314 carries…ratio means a lot with these products.