# All is Phero - Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 13, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805 "2011-10-13T00:24:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/1 "2011-10-13T00:24:48Z")
I am a noob on PheroTalk, I have not even put in my “Hello, Hi, How are you” yet, but I wanted to begin the journal before I did that and before I let my usage go unreported. This journal will be a little different since it is from an “older gentlemen” although you probably would not know it if you met me. I am 59, 6’2", 210 lbs, residing in Texas but traveling much. I am in fine shape physically, mentally and spiritually and am always reaching for new growth and improvement. My intentions with Phero’s are to: 1. Investigate their affect on human behavior; others as well as my own. 2. Report these affects for the benefit of others who may be interested. 3. Assist in advancing the knowledge and research which has already reached a high level of quality. Additional notes, are that I am not really interested in being a PUA. Although I have a mate, I have many opportunities for encounters with women as I find pleasure in discovering aspects of myself and others simply for the sheer enjoyment of it. My first order consisted of: A314 IS IS 2x IO to go IH to go TUTH AMMO First Usage: A314 - 2 drops on jawline IS 2x - 2 sprays on forearms AMMO - 2 sprays on wrists IH - 2 sprays on neck Application time - 2PM My initial reaction to the sprays was favorable. I particularly liked the smell of AMMO. In fact I was surprised when I sprayed it on. It smelled so good, it made me feel great! I normally wear a cologne of some type so the fragrance was a bonus. At about 4PM went to the Whole Foods to pick up a few items. I had splashed on several Pheros earlier since this was my first exposure and I thought I would see if I get any reaction at all. I do not frequent this store, so I did not expect to find anyone I knew. I needed to get some cleaning supplies and I knew the aisle would be empty. I hung in the aisle for a little while, thinking it would be best to let the cloud settle. After a few minutes, a young “hottie” with a mini-skirt, long bare legs and black ankle boots walks into the aisle right next to me and kneels on the floor at my feet. She has her mother and a store clerk in tow. They are fussing with some box on the low shelf for a couple of minutes. I stand right where I am looking over some labels. I can see from the corner of my eye that black boots is looking up at me and staring. She, store clerk and mom then leave in a rush. I stay right where I am and black boots comes back and looks at me again, like she had to come back for another look, which at the time I thought was odd. This time she was not looking at the lower shelf, she was looking at me. She walks away and then comes back a second time and does the same thing. It all happened so fast I didn’t think anything of it. But then, they all come back again. Black boots kneels on the ground again fussing with the box and twice looks up at me… staring, this time along with mom. I turn to look at mom and she quickly looks away. Very interesting scenario. I was getting awe vibes from black boots. I could feel them. There were a couple other minor encounters there. People would clear the aisle to make way as I walked toward something. This is a small WFM, so people don’t normally do that. I am attributing the behavior to A314 and probably black boots’ awe to that and AMMO. Not bad for day one. I can see that I will have to apply the pheros one at a time and find the sweet spots so that I can plan my interactions with some base knowledge ahead of time. ---
**Author:** ![jakemarquee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jakemarquee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakemarquee)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/2 "2011-10-13T00:29:39Z")
Good to know mate, cant wait to get my supplies ! I haven’t added IG i wish it was in stock ! ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/3 "2011-10-21T14:22:33Z")
October 20th Application time 2PM A314 - 4 drops on jawline IS 2x - 2 sprays on neck AMMO - 2 sprays on wrists This application I doubled up on the A314 and focused on A314, IS and AMMO for a quick trip to the supermarket. I did not expect to stay very long. I just wanted to get out and enjoy the day, so I sprayed on the mones, waited for a couple of hours and headed out. The market was a bit busy, but I found myself very focused on getting what I wanted and then leaving. So I simply headed to the areas of the store where stuff was that I needed, not paying much attention at all to what was going on around me. I finished in about 20 minutes or so, had covered the store completely and queued up for checkout. At this point, my head felt like it had been clobbered with a 2x4, so my neck quickly whipped around in the opposite direction to find out what that was all about. I had just caught a woman across the produce section, probably 30 feet away, just beginning to turn her face away. I knew at that point that there was a strong vibration coming from her from that distance. It was an obvious signal. Women do not usually get caught looking, but this time, I just happened to catch the tail end of a very strong and focused attraction. I was quite surprised that such a strong impression was made from that distance. For now, I attribute it to the 4 drops of A314 in the nome cloud. It’s difficult to gauge but I think my aloofness may have also contributed to the attraction. I am going to test this combination a bit more to see if this was an isolated case. But, I have never, in all my life, noticed the vibration of such a physical attraction from so far away. ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/4 "2012-01-19T15:53:24Z")
The meetup was quite fun, as expected. I wore the following: A314 - 4 drops to chin [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - 3 sprays to neck IO - 4 sprays to neck IH - 2 sprays to wrists IS - 4 sprays to forearms Everyone I met was quite congenial and friendly and I did notice a hefty amount of respect that was offered by folks upon meeting or shaking hands. The unexpected surprise was that there was only one female in the group of 5 and she was leading the meetup. She was expecting more attendees, but they never showed. The meetup was held in her home and she had arranged seating around the living room. I had located myself on the other side of the room to balance out the space as the guys had congregated around her. As we began the discussion about 20 minutes after I walked in, all of a sudden she gets up from her chair, leaves that side of the room and takes the seat right next to me! “Well, isn’t this going to be fun”, I thought. As the night progressed, the discussions got more involved and I found myself leading most of them. At one time as I was making a point I saw her out of the corner of my eye, staring at me, mouth gaping open, eyes wide… frozen. Before long she was making herself comfortable in her chair, even beginning to show some skin. A very fun and successful night. At the end, I was the first to leave and she extended her arms for a big hug. She agreed to have me visit her again before the next meetup. Thank you AD! You guys and your products are amazing! ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/5 "2012-01-20T18:41:26Z")
Well… that was… uh… interesting! And quite unexpected! I applied what has been coming to be one of my goto formulas: 2 drops A314 to jawline 3 sprays Ammo to neck front 4 sprays IS to forearms 2 sprays IO to wrists only this time I added… 2 sprays MX459 to sides of neck and head off to the UPS store to pick up my latest order. So I walk in and head over to the counter. The attendant recognizes me and picks up my packages. I say “Hello!” and “Happy Friday!”… standard stuff. He answers.. “Oh Thanks! I really appreciate that!” He brings my packages to the counter and proceeds to tell me excitedly about his dreams last night… how strange they were and… that it was not the dreams but the emotions that were extraordinary. This all happens within the course of a minute as I accept the packages and begin to leave and wish him a great weekend. Then I get an equally excited weekend weather report from him. I have seen this guy once or twice before. Nothing out of the ordinary before, but wow… this time I could only attribute his openness to the mones. I really was not expecting this at all. Kinda took me by surprise. I guess it’s good to be prepared for anything. Life with mones is quite entertaining! ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/6 "2012-01-27T18:11:44Z")
I decided to have be experimental and try A314 and MX459 to the optometrist for my morning appt. I have known my optometrist for years but haven’t seen him for two year. Since the MX459 seems to have heighten the senses I thought it might be interesting to see what affect it could possible have on my tests. I applied 4 drops A314 to jawline 4 sprays MX459 to neck It was about an hour later that I was finally called in for the preliminary tests. I noticed I was very focused on the the peripheral vision test. It’s like playing a video game. I was chatting and bantering with the assistant who was probably in her early 40’s. Eventually I asked her what she was doing for the weekend… no answer. So the testing moves on to taking pics of the eye so she has to actually hold my head in her hands to help in placement. Here we get a little playful and she starts to loosen up. Off we go to “the chair” and the sight tests and I am joking around with her and the testing. Then she asks ME what am I doing for the weekend. Ho Ho! Mones kicking in? I tell her I am going to a musician meetup and now she starts telling me about how she LOVES musicians. By the time her tests are over, she is walking out of the room giggling and blushing like a schoolgirl. Optometrist doc then walks in and does the tests. Bottom line… no change to the prescription! An excellent and fun visit! ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/7 "2012-02-19T08:30:08Z")
Let’s cut to the chase. I am leaving out a bunch of background unless it is really pertinent. I have met a married woman online that probably is one of the most sex-starved women I have ever encountered. I had my doubts about her at first since she wasn’t very conversational at all. But I kept pushing the envelope and she followed. I can see now that she wanted to feel safe as I can understand many women do on these sites. Can I blame them? Absolutely not! The date has been set for the first meeting. She cant wait to get her hands and body on me. She ejaculates on orgasm. I have given her a virtual orgasm that she says she has not had in a looooong time. I have done this with other women before. This is going to be a very wild weekend if all works out well. She is 55+ years old and a professional woman. Online we are building what could be a long-lasting affair relationship. All of this has been done online.. so that means without mones. So here I am thinking about incorporating mones into the equation; mostly to enhance the whole weekend experience. It’s clear to me that her lack of sexual activity has been affecting her health as she has been gushing about how good she feels after our virtual session. She wants to give me the best sex I have ever had. That is very sweet of her. The expectation is very high. So my intention with the mones is to enhance her weekend experience. She is going to be picking me up at the airport and has already told me she is going to wear a short skirt when she does so that I can explore and play with her. That’s as far as I’d like to go into the details as I respect this woman very much and want to her to experience her sexuality to her limit and beyond. So… given that… I was thinking of still wearing some social mones at the first meeting in the car. I have met women under these conditions before and those first minutes are so critical. It is really almost like a blind date…but oddly enough a blind date with someone you have shared a sexual experience with. Yes, she wants sex big time with me, but I want her to feel the comfort I am expecting she will need so that she can move to that level easily. Maybe some of the ladies here can advise. After the evening ride and the hotel checkin… she wants me to play with her again in public in a cafe there. This is the scenario she has conjured. So I am thinking that this would be the time to start applying some TUTH. Given her age and mine, I was going to go with a 2x shot, thinking that we could turn up the heat slowly if needed. I would adjust dosage based on reaction. After that, it is to the room and a shower with her. So I will lose the mones signature completely there. There is going to be a lot of play expected here. I would rather not get into the details. But what I was thinking is to move into some p83 territory after the shower. Perhaps starting out slow and then building up so that she can get to the point where she can really let go of herself and find a new level of her sexuality. Right now these are all possibilities that I am considering. I really have no plan. I am going to be testing my sweet spots thoroughly over the coming weeks in situations with 55+ yr old women. I know that will give me the best information. Also, I know there are other older men out here that may be lurking but may be able to chime in and give some advice. The other aspect of this supposedly unique situation is that I want to post results very specifically as the days and weeks unfold. It may be that the information that comes out of this torrid expectant affair may be of some help to all here, including me. After all, that is what a journal is for One last comment I need to make at this point is that I am considering using no mones at all. After all, I have seduced this woman online without mones and gave her one of the best sexual experiences she has had, again without mones. If this isn’t a testimonial to “sex is in the mind”… I don’t know what is! Anyway… maybe I don’t need any mones at all. Really, I just want us both to have great fun with each other on that weekend. If it ain’t gonna be fun… what’s the point!? ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/8 "2012-03-05T17:30:43Z")
Interesting and funny. Went to the grocery store after spraying one 2x of AMMO to neck and one IG to neck. Went into an empty check out aisle where a 40ish woman was working. Set down my stuff and a younger 20-ish was not quite sure she wanted to enter this aisle. I was right at the cashier end of the belt with divider placed behind my stuff… she was about as far away as she could get while still being in the aisle. Meanwhile I am quick to checkout and after the “thank you… have a good day”, the 40ish woman starts up a conversation about the weather complete with smiles and wide eyes. What a dichotomy! ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/9 "2012-03-19T16:41:47Z")
The rendezvous was a huge success. Although it is never easy to tell how much influence the moves had on us, my opinion is that the weekend went very well because of their influence. First off, after much research on this site, I finally decided to go with the Best Sex Ever mix. NPA + [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) + TAC – mix #1. Why? Congruency! I recognized that what we were both wanting was a weekend of fun and sex. The online relationship was going very well and very sexual. Numerous scenarios were anticipated in the online relationship. Based on that, I decided that we were both wanting to fulfill some of these fantasy scenarios. So in order to help them be fulfilled I thought the Best Sex Ever mix would be the one that would fit the bill. And it did! I applied after getting off the plane on Friday night to be picked up by her. The spark was ignited from the first physical embrace and the first fantasy scenario was triggered right then. She was very receptive and loved the interplay. It did not let up all night. Three hours passed so quickly we could not believe that much time had lapsed. I don’t remember how long the playing went on that night but there was not much sleep. On Saturday morning, I reapplied after a shower. The play went on for at least 6 hours before a snack break. I noticed more in the morning and afternoon play because there is more light in the day. I could see the reactions of her body and face. The TAC was definitely having a softening affect. She would practically purr like a cat. But, the P83 and NPA was working there too as it brought out the aggressiveness while P83 tore down any boundaries. By the afternoon, she was repeating that it was the best sex she ever had. I had never seen a woman go so far as she did. At one point she could not stop coming. Later she said she was on the verge of passing out. I had not experienced this level of orgasm before. IME a woman just cannot go much further than that. The morning application was the last one. Yet, the play went on through the afternoon and evening. She and I were both exhausting ourselves. Yet play began again very early on Sunday morning where she again reached a series of very high climaxes. I did notice a difference as the mones wore off. It seemed that her hunger for more continued but then abated that night. In the afternoon she said that she was feeling that she could not be satisfied. But by Sunday morning, she and I were feeling exhausted and in a very satisfied and peaceful place. I am thinking this might have something to do with the mix. As the mix wore off, there was less desire. On the other hand, the affects of hours of sexual activity were also having their affect. The desires had abated while a calm and peaceful glow seemed to surround us both. I did not apply any mones on Sunday at all. The play was very subdued, relaxed and peaceful. We both knew our time was limited on Sunday as I was leaving on an early afternoon plane. I think it was best that I did not reapply on Sunday morning. This may have been too much for either of us. On the way to the airport we both enjoyed reviewing the play and scenarios that we fulfilled. It was all fun. We both agreed that the weekend rendezvous worked out better than expected. I expect to use this mix again on any encounter where sex is expected. I do not expect to tweak the mix. However, I may at some point want to experiment with replacing the NPA with some AD none based product in order to keep the mix “in-house”. There seems to be another possible rendezvous with another woman; this one 10 years younger – in her late 40’s. If and when it does come to a physical encounter, I will use this mix again and report the results. ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/10 "2012-05-30T08:54:56Z")
An interesting unplanned scenario at work yesterday… I sprayed on 3x IS, 3x IO, 3x IH. I work in an enclosed office that sometimes gets some traffic; people walking through, touring the location. I was sitting about 4’ from this aisle, blocked by a partition that is about 4’ high, when a tour of about 30 high school girls began walking in. I had applied the mones about 15 minutes before their arrival. The very first girl who walked in said excitedly as she passed… “Oooooh, it smells really nice in here!”. I was sitting on the other side of the partition, so there was no interaction. They essentially did not even know I was there. I had earlier walked in the same door they did so I am not sure if what they smelled was my trail or what I was wearing. My suspicion is that they sensed what I was wearing because she did not talk about the smell until after she passed the area where I was sitting. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/11 "2012-05-30T09:25:32Z")
Must be nice to have a tour of HS girls in your office. If that was where I work, here in my office or bedroom, nothing would ever get done. Well nothing that wouldn’t get me a prison sentence 😃 ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/12 "2012-05-30T10:50:18Z")
Yeah, I kinda enjoy freedom myself… that’s why I stayed on the OTHER side of the partition! It ended up being a kind of “blind” test. I really did not expect anything interesting to come from it, so naturally it was a surprise. Now that I have a benchmark, I will experiment with some other mixes. We also get adults in here of all types… sometimes even hi-level politicians. ---
**Author:** ![matemann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@matemann](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matemann)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/all-is-phero-journal/52805/13 "2012-06-03T08:17:56Z")
After using the “Best Sex Ever” mix several times in several situations, it’s time to record my findings on this mix. I feel I have come to know this mix on several levels, so it’s time to post some of these observations. See original postings on the BSE mix here: > [@Addiction to NPA](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/addiction-to-npa/54698/23): > > Two more votes for the name “Best Sex Ever” Mix. I wore this mix on a weekend rendezvous. First application was on Friday night. Second application was on Saturday morning. Several times she said it was the best sex she ever had. By the way… I am 60 years old and she is 58. So this mix may very well be the BSE mix for all ages! What really got me thinking that I had to capture some of my thoughts on this mix, were the events of yesterday. I was on my way to check-in to a hotel for a pre-arranged meeting with a woman. On my way to check-in, I had applied the BSE mix. But this time, I applied a double dose! Yup! Essentially, 6x NPA (15 mcg), about 5x [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (12.5 mcg) and 5x TAC (12.5 mg). I hope that all reading recognize that what works on one person may not work on another, never the less, that was the dosage. I applied about 1/2 hour before check-in. And I had been standing in 80 degree heat, working up a few drops of sweat on my forehead during that period. I arrive at the hotel and begin the check in process with the hotel attendant there who was a fine young Indian girl in her mid 20’s. The process was normal, quick cordial and businesslike as expected… that is until I leaned over the counter to ask her about the breakfast schedule in the morning. As soon as I finished the question, i noticed her whole demeanor changing. Her face lit up, her eyes widened and her body jumped to attention as if she had been asleep and just woke up to a new excitement she had not witnessed before. Her face brightened with a wide happy smile and she began to tell me very excitedly not only about breakfast but also about dinner. Her body was directed… I would say.. aligned with mine. Every move I made, she reciprocated. As she talked about dinner, she told me of a special menu item and how delicious it was, that I should try it and that if i did not like it she would take it off my bill. Yikes! I could feel the excitement that her body was transmitting to me. Yes the words that she spoke were all welcoming, the body language, even moreso, but the vibes I was getting from her were very strong and directed, It was as if I was feeling the spirit of her desire being expressed through the language of her words and body. It was an amazing moment and one that I was naturally not prepared for, as I was checking in to be with another woman. Ain’t that how it always works? I am beginning to understand why, but that is another subject altogether. I knew in each one of those fleeting exciting moments, why the girl was acting/reacting the way she was. And later, as I thought more about that particular event, I realized more. The BSE mix is quite an alchemy. It seems to be that when these separate potions are combined, this mix becomes more than the sum of its parts. As i write these lines, I understand that what I am conveying is my perception of the effects. Yet everything that I write is significant in that there is a common thread of experience that I am having with women when using this mix. Up until yesterday, I had only intentionally used this mix prior to having sex with a woman. I have used this mix with several women. The meetings were all pre-arranged and in all cases there was much anticipation and expectation for these women were very desirous. They had a very high sex drive, they wanted to have long periods of sex. Their desire had been flamed by me for days and weeks with emails and phone calls. Because of that, I saw the mix as a kind of extra kick. I saw the mix as adding a little more flame to the fire during the long awaited event. Under these circumstances, the mix performed amazingly well. In all cases, where I had performed the online seduction before the act, the sex was long, free, spontaneous, intimate and very satisfying for her. I would consistently hear phrases like… “I have never felt like this before”… “I never knew it could be this good”… “I never did anything like that”… "It was the best sex… ", etc. etc. So, I was satisfied with the mix. It did what was intended, so I did not touch the proportions or the application. It was working and working consistently. Except for yesterday…when I applied 2x the dose. I felt a little daring and wanted to see what would happen with this woman who was very desirous… a married woman who had not had sex in a very, very long time. In short, the results were astounding. And to top it off I saw results out of the bedroom at the check-in desk. This will lead to a new approach to this mix. But first, I have to note…. there seems to be a correlation for the events in and out of the bedroom. This time at the thotel, after a taking a shower the morning after and re-applying a single dose, she smelled me, took a very deep breath in and said… “your smell excites my body”. Now, as I look back on this, I realized this is a very interesting, honest and noteworthy statement. For as I look back on the event with the check-in girl, her body was telling me the same thing… not in so many words, but I felt her excitement nevertheless. ANother event of note… I did have this mix on with another woman who I’ve known for a very long time. She was not intending a long night of sex. Mostly because, she is not a very desirous woman. As you all know (if not you should)…Not all women are. Every woman is different. She is her own person, has her own preferences, priorities and desires. And no mix is going to automagically change that in an instant. For that reason, I found that, although the mix did seem to bring more of a flirtatious playful personality out of her, that’s about as far as it went. I accepted that as an excellent finding. By that I mean, that this mix (as well as others) might well be considered as a “filter” mix. That is… if a woman is basically desirous, this mix will amplify that desirous nature to an extent that it will be expressed and felt by her… and she will show it! Her body will be excited and you will sense the physical expression of that excitement. The level of the excitement may very well be indicating the level of desire she has within her. It is possible that this mix may just be allowing her to freely expose her desirous feelings within that she normally hides. By being aware, listening and tuning into that amplified vibration, you can join in with her, complement her desire and… well… I’ll let you fill in the blanks. I expect more will be written on the subject of this mix. Much more.