# Alpha 7 and SOE **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 11, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612 "2010-09-11T13:38:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@sca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sca)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/1 "2010-09-11T13:38:01Z")
Hi everyone I am new to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and I just bought Chikara, A7 & SoE. On the first trial, I put on 3 sprays of Chikara but was unsure if people would be able to tell so I applied 1 spray my own cologne le mans to try to cover it up. I later saw a female and we had a few drinks, at the end of the night she commented on how nice I smelt. I am not sure if that was a hit or just her being friendly. I have subsequently been trying 1-2 drops of A7 with about 18” of SoE (occasionally I have even dropped in A7 with Chikara). However I have not had any hits ☹. Am I doing something wrong? I am 34, 6ft tall with an average build and black\mixed race. I guess I am looking to attract women in a similar age group to myself. Would there be a better product for me try? sca ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/2 "2010-09-11T14:47:46Z")
> [@sca](#): > > Hi everyone > > I am new to pheromones and I just bought Chikara, A7 & SoE. On the first trial, I put on 3 sprays of Chikara but was unsure if people would be able to tell so I applied 1 spray my own cologne le mans to try to cover it up. > > I later saw a female and we had a few drinks, at the end of the night she commented on how nice I smelt. I am not sure if that was a hit or just her being friendly. > > I have subsequently been trying 1-2 drops of A7 with about 18” of SoE (occasionally I have even dropped in A7 with Chikara). However I have not had any hits ☹. Am I doing something wrong? I am 34, 6ft tall with an average build and black\mixed race. I guess I am looking to attract women in a similar age group to myself. > > Would there be a better product for me try? > > sca I know you’re in a hurry, but you need to read up on the products. IF you had, you would have noted that A-7 and SOE has -Rone in both, and that my friend, is a LOT of -Rone you’ve been playing with!!! Wear 1 drop per day … of A7 for a week, and take note of all those around you. Wear 2 drops per day … of A7 for a week, and take note of all those around you. Wear 3 drops of A7 for a week, and take note of all t hose around you. Add up until you see something … POSITIVE or NEGATIVE. Once you get any kind of reaction, you know where your sweet spot for A7 is. Put an inch of SOE on each side of your neck, and spray 1 of Chikara on top of each application spot, and 1 spray to the wrist and rub the wrists LIGHTLY to smear it on both wrists. Don’t use anther scent to cover them … you may not be getting any hits because you’re the COLONGE BOY! 😃 And a lot of people get hits, and just don’t know it. Here in the land of Androtics … all the Instant Lines are yours for the test!! They’re good products, too! ‘IF’ I were you, I’d purchase all of the Instant Lines in the small TO-GO sizes, and play with them. Good luck, and remember to write down your mixes/product you wore, and everything that was NOT NORMAL during the day. Tis a good way to see patterns of products and mixes. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![sca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@sca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sca)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/3 "2010-09-12T10:30:07Z")
Thanks M&M Ok, so I should try 1 drop of A7 for a week and then 2 drops … so on. Is there a good place for me to go and try it, I work in a very male dominated environment and there are no women so I am not sure if work will be the best place to wear it. Maybe I should try it in a coffee shop or a bar? You mentioned SOE and Chikara, that is interesting I haven’t tried those together before. I only ever used one or the other. Did you mean that I should use A7 with the SOE and Chikara? Or should I just try the A7 on its own? I have unscented A7 so it may need something to cover up the smell. How do the Instant lines compare with scents like Chikara? I was looking on the internet and found a product called pherazone. Do you know anything about it? Is it worth getting or not? sca ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/4 "2010-09-12T17:09:46Z")
> [@sca](#): > > Thanks M&M > > Ok, so I should try 1 drop of A7 for a week and then 2 drops … so on. Yes > [@sca](#): > > Is there a good place for me to go and try it, I work in a very male dominated environment and there are no women so I am not sure if work will be the best place to wear it. **Maybe I should try it in a coffee shop or a bar**? Glad you answered your own question … had me worried there for a second! 🙄 > [@sca](#): > > You mentioned SOE and Chikara, that is interesting I haven’t tried those together before. I only ever used one or the other. > Did you mean that I should use A7 with the SOE and Chikara? Or should I just try the A7 on its own? I have unscented A7 so it may need something to cover up the smell. No, SOE:Chikara solo. Yes, A7 on its own until you figure out what it does for you, how many drops does it for you; then you can add different mones to it as you please, until you find something that YOU like. You can test A7 on its own, or you can use a cover scent. Sorry to have to tell you, but you’re gonna have to test all of your questions to get your answers. > [@sca](#): > > How do the Instant lines compare with scents like Chikara? I was looking on the internet and found a product called pherazone. Do you know anything about it? Is it worth getting or not? > > sca I like most of the scents, so I can’t compare. Sorry. Two post and you’re already asking about another product. You selling it? I always WONDER WHY people come here to ask about other company’s products, when the other company has a forum. \ Anyway, never heard of that product. Not even interested in googling it, like most will. If Love Scent or Androtics doesn’t sell it … I don’t buy it. UNLESS! Someone that has been posting for a while, shows up and tells of a product that’s guaranteed. Then, I’ll bite! Good luck ---
**Author:** ![sca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@sca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sca)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/5 "2010-09-12T18:16:00Z")
Thanks for all your answers. It is has made me feel that I need to spend more time testing what I have and there is no magical amount to apply. if Androtics and Love Scent are the best places then I will only stick with their products. sca ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/6 "2010-09-12T18:27:47Z")
> [@sca](#): > > Thanks for all your answers. It is has made me feel that I need to spend more time testing what I have and there is no magical amount to apply. > > if Androtics and Love Scent are the best places then I will only stick with their products. > > sca Testing is what it’s all about … it’s the only way you find the products and mixes that works for YOU. No, I didn’t say Love Scent and Androtics are the best places to shop … I said it’s the ONLY TWO places that I will shop, UNLESS someone I trust here, says they’ve run across a new product from another place that works and works and works. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/7 "2010-09-12T19:29:11Z")
There are 2 or 3 other excellent mone manufacturers and shops out there besides LS and AD. Their products are well reviewed and discussed on other forums. However, these forums are prohibited from discussion or PM mention here. A7 is pretty powerful and extremely easy to OD with. I’m guessing from the OP’s physical description, he either needs a wee dose or no dose at all. I agree, using SOE solo is a great way to start. It’s possible he already has ample anone and merely needs the social kick of extra anol and rone. I love the SOE/A7 combo. Basically you have slow oil release of anone, anol and rone–the holy trinity of mones. I don’t need much else. ---
**Author:** ![sca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@sca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sca)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/8 "2010-09-17T18:39:52Z")
Thanks, how can I tell if I have OD. Is it possible to OD with as little as 1 drop? what does OP stand for? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/9 "2010-09-17T19:14:11Z")
> [@sca](#): > > Thanks, how can I tell if I have OD. Is it possible to OD with as little as 1 drop? what does OP stand for? HOW — People will avoid you as though you stink, not look into your eyes, move away, wanna fight, act differently – less talkative than normal, people/you will get agitated/angry. ANYTHING is possible, but most would say NO. Still … it will ALWAYS depend on one’s body chemistry/natural mones, is what I’ve read to believe. OP? I have no idea. :o OPP? OPP means OTHER PEOPLE’S PUNTANG! I could not resist!! 😃_ **“You down with OPP!? Yeah, you know me!”** _ 🙄 You’re gonna have to pull up a chair, and read, SCA. That’s what you can build your mones blueprint around … then, you’re gonna have to get out there and test, test, test … that’s how you’re gonna find YOUR answers. There’s enough info here and over at LScent for you to dig through, and jot down notes. GEt ready! Set! Dig!! 😉 HAPPY HUNTING! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/10 "2010-09-18T01:05:23Z")
Actually it’s pretty common for both White and Black men to OD on 1 drop of A7, especially if you’re fit and on the young side. Not so common for Asian men and middle aged+ guys. The most obvious signs of anone OD are easy irritability, hostility or indifference. I used to wear mega doses of anone (NPA) and could usually get away with it as I’m such a mellow Buddha head. But it sent certain women into massive bitch fits with the confusing result of angry sex. ---
**Author:** ![sca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@sca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sca)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/11 "2010-10-03T13:42:22Z")
well I am not sure I have found my sweet-spot yet with A7. I cannot say I got any hits but I thought that out of all of the trials, 1 drop seemed ok. People seemed to want to talk to me so I do not think I OD on 1 drop. Maybe about the same as usual \ maybe a bit better than usual (but that might have been my imagination). With 2 drops I noticed nothing at all not sure why. Except a woman I sometimes work with who likes to argue about everything did not argue and accepted my point of view about most things With 3 drops the women the same thing happened with the woman I sometimes work with. I also noticed something strange, I went for a coffee with a guy I work with but while we were at the canteen, he took the opposite stance to me on everything for example if I said I didn’t like something, he would go on about how good the thing was or how the person was just doing their jobs. I haven’t yet tried 4 drops, I might try 4 drops next week and see what happens. I am worried about really OD and do not what to go that far again When I first got A7 I could not use the dropper so I ended up not knowing exactly how much I used but I did definitely OD on it at 1st. I was in a lift\elevator and there were two women in there with me and one of the women kept on walking backward and backed into me as if I was not there. Back then I thought maybe she liked me but after reading a few articles about people becoming invisible when they OD on A7 i guess that is what happen. I also when into a shop and a small child said “what’s that terrible smell”. However I didn’t really apply it in drops back then so unsure what amount caused that ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-7-and-soe/41612/12 "2011-01-20T22:21:07Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > There are 2 or 3 other excellent mone manufacturers and shops out there besides LS and AD. Their products are well reviewed and discussed on other forums. However, these forums are prohibited from discussion or PM mention here. > > A7 is pretty powerful and extremely easy to OD with. I’m guessing from the OP’s physical description, he either needs a wee dose or no dose at all. I agree, using SOE solo is a great way to start. It’s possible he already has ample anone and merely needs the social kick of extra anol and rone. > > **I love the SOE/A7 combo. Basically you have slow oil release of anone, anol and rone–the holy trinity of mones. I don’t need much else**. How do you find the holy trinity in a7/SOE differing from the holy trinity in other mixes. Chikara has all 3 , so does ammo . So does a314.tuth/and IO. With chikara I get a feel of good mood, attract 30 and under crowd and get good service from restaurants, banks, etc With ammo all I get is the stink of tide and sensory overload. It kinda stones me out so I say its effect is closer to 0 unless i cover the ammo smell with instant shine and even that only works for a while. With a314 tuth and IO I get status, weath, power, respect , sexual ovetone, and more talk but its too damn serious. But there doesn’t seem to be as much discussion on A7/SOE in terms of marketing. What exactly is the best way to act out this combo? dsouza