# Alpha A314: More Affordable Quantities **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 25, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605 "2010-06-25T04:57:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![S0C08](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@S0C08](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/S0C08)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/1 "2010-06-25T04:57:13Z")
I was just Wondering why Doesn’t Androtics make a more affordable bottle of Alpha A314. I would at least like to try it out before I spend $109.95 on it 😮… I mean… There are sample bottles of nearly everything else but why not all? It would be more convenient… and yes… I realize there is a unsatisfied return program policy… but I don’t want to go through the hassle… maybe they can sale it in half bottle quantities or even a quarter of a bottle… something more affordable such as a sample size would be nice… I would really really like to try out Alpha A314… I’m sure if they sold it in a smaller quantity bottles… they would sale more in the end… for the fact that most people would be able to afford to try or out… or just buy it at small quantities at a time… Because I could afford to buy a quarter to half of a bottle at a time every two weeks to a month… I’m just Asking for my request to be taken into Consideration Please…:o Thank You!!! and God Bless!!!😃 Sincerely: S0C08 ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/2 "2010-06-25T05:03:17Z")
As a user of a314, I enjoy how exclusive it is. I enjoy how I have something so good that nobody else will ever have because they simply whine about the price, instead of being a man and taking risks,having fun, and enjoying life! i’m not really as selfish as I just described myself, at all. But I hope you get the point, a314 is every bit worth it, and you won’t regret it once you buy it. How do I know? because I took a risk. The only way to get rewards is to take risks my friend. and if you don’t know that, then a314 won’t really help you anyway. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/3 "2010-06-25T05:26:55Z")
> [@Michael721](#): > > The only way to get rewards is to take risks my friend. and if you don’t know that, then a314 won’t really help you anyway. Well said. You can apply that to anything. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/4 "2010-06-25T05:30:19Z")
It is so valuable that they had to custom make the carrier so as to reduce waste and degradation. The bottle is not something that the alc bases come in, it is not what other oils come in. Is is a UV shielded cobalt bottle with a engineered heavier base and a effective seal cap. They didn’t just make this stuff up. Everything about A314 is expensive and unique right down to the friggin bottle. That is why it is expensive. And they still aren’t making a viable profit off it. ---
**Author:** ![martinm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/martinm/32/1420_2.png) [@martinm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martinm)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/5 "2010-06-25T05:32:15Z")
Don’t be so harsh on him guys -.-. For most people, money is not easy to come by. Try MX347. It’s the spray version of A314. At 37.97$ (40 sprays), it should help you decide if it’s worth it or not. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/6 "2010-06-25T05:34:00Z")
Who’s being harsh? ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/7 "2010-06-25T09:38:14Z")
I agree, try the spray versions if your unsure, as anyone can be before trying a new mone 🙂. And guys, it might have been a little better if you had answered his question a little… better. More directly and less looking down your nose, remember, he doesnt have any A314 yet LOL. But seriously, to answer your question, thats a definite yes, it is very definitely worth it, even monetarily if you wear it at work, even moreso if you work in sales or are looking for a promotion or pay raise. If your still unsure, get some of the spray version and I’m sure you’ll be convinced, although I’ve never tried any of the spray versions myself, and they aren’t supposed to have the exact same effects as its an experimental version with some purposeful variations just to see what those variations would do. However, It should be fine as a test product to see how you like it, and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is also available to serve that purpose, although I find myself in need of far more sprays IG than drops A314, thus it might be less expensive to get the MX. Best of luck, flight ---
**Author:** ![Cohengunn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Cohengunn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cohengunn)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/8 "2010-06-25T11:32:29Z")
It is a pretty big jump in price considering the last batch cost 50-60 bucks I can understand peoples concerns but hopefully the more money androtics is making will lead to new and improved products. Pros and Cons! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/9 "2010-06-25T12:56:48Z")
> [@Cohengunn](#): > > It is a pretty big jump in price considering the last batch cost 50-60 bucks I can understand peoples concerns but hopefully the more money androtics is making will lead to new and improved products. Pros and Cons! You’re right. We do need to raise more funds to both stay afloat, and to break our holding pattern and start innovating again. The business seas have been unusually rough lately. We don’t want to “become a statistic” 🙂 We were originally considered some sort of across the board price increase. However, A314 is unusual in that it’s one of the few [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) ever shown to actually make some users more money. In a sense, it should be the least painful product to increase the price of. The value proposition is still high for most users. As the marketing folks say, we can and should probably even charge a bit more to bring it more in line with it’s deliverables. They say it’ll probably even sell better when the price is more in line with what is offers (which is a lot). The main problem is exactly what you see here. The initial buy in cost is higher. That does concern me as this might limit access to some people where the currency is weak. We’re as charitable as we can be, and always do what we can when people call or write in, and show unusual sincerity in times of need. Hopefully we can solve this systematically with a more affordable MX of some sort, or another smaller slize. We bootstrapped this company from very little, and I think it’s admirable if we also offer a way to offer serious people a way to bootstrap their lives. That’s what microloan orgs do like kiva. Some sort of “micro” version of key products like A314 really might also be able to help. I think IH, too, really helps people act like they should act around each other in a more perfect world: with sincerity and humanity. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/10 "2010-06-25T13:01:06Z")
> [@Cohengunn](#): > > It is a pretty big jump in price considering the last batch cost 50-60 bucks I can understand peoples concerns but hopefully the more money androtics is making will lead to new and improved products. Pros and Cons! The reason for the big Jump is the added material costs that AD incurs when purchasing the products. From what I remember reading, they get the best purity rating without the molecules being toxic and also get the highest USP rating (safety for the person), this is why these things cost the way that they do. A lot of us knew this was a long time coming especially with the supply issues AD has because suppliers were not sending supplies like they were used to. Now some suppliers have increased costs exponentially, even more than what AD has raised the price on this. It’s been stated that some companies have doubled or even tripled their asking price (some a lot more). Just to keep a viable business going, you will need to pass that costs onto consumers/cut overhead costs/raise prices, in order to keep providing that product. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/11 "2010-06-25T15:27:01Z")
3 word post nominated… huh? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/12 "2010-06-25T15:50:43Z")
> [@hillke](#): > > 3 word post nominated… huh? Well thats all it takes to make a sentence so why not a nomination too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/13 "2010-06-26T03:47:18Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > You’re right. We do need to raise more funds to both stay afloat, and to break our holding pattern and start innovating again. The business seas have been unusually rough lately. We don’t want to “become a statistic” 🙂 > > We were originally considered some sort of across the board price increase. However, A314 is unusual in that it’s one of the few pheromone products ever shown to actually make some users more money. In a sense, it should be the least painful product to increase the price of. > > The value proposition is still high for most users. As the marketing folks say, we can and should probably even charge a bit more to bring it more in line with it’s deliverables. They say it’ll probably even sell better when the price is more in line with what is offers (which is a lot). > > The main problem is exactly what you see here. The initial buy in cost is higher. That does concern me as this might limit access to some people where the currency is weak. > > We’re as charitable as we can be, and always do what we can when people call or write in, and show unusual sincerity in times of need. Hopefully we can solve this systematically with a more affordable MX of some sort, or another smaller slize. > > We bootstrapped this company from very little, and I think it’s admirable if we also offer a way to offer serious people a way to bootstrap their lives. That’s what microloan orgs do like kiva. Some sort of “micro” version of key products like A314 really might also be able to help. I think IH, too, really helps people act like they should act around each other in a more perfect world: with sincerity and humanity. Personally I’m ok with the price increase. Obviously I’d prefer to pay 69 dollars for a 10ml than 109. Who wouldn’t? But as you pointed out, A314 among other things has potential for increasing income, which in my case it has. One thing I’m hoping for is for AD to expand, perhaps a larger production facility. In the short time I’ve been a customer and poster I’ve seen I’ve noticed the current demand for product to be significantly high in relation to the supply. I don’t mean this as a way of harping on the out of stock issues of the recent past, but rather as praise. In today’s economic climate companies would kill to be able to say they’ve run out of product and their customers will have to wait for a bit. However if the company expanded, buying and selling in larger quantities usually comes with volume discounts. A savings that could possibly be passed along to the consumer later on, thus possibly bringing A314 down in price again…later on down the road of course. One of the big worries companies have when contemplating expansion is over estimating the product demand and losing the capital that was used to expand and increase production. The one way to get around this is to couple high tech low cost viral marketing tactics with creative rebranding. Say what you want about AXE but they’re marketing genius’s, every time a new fragrance comes out it gets a unique logo and gimick, usually including interactive activities on the website and facebook profile. Dos Equise is an even better example, The Most Interesting Man in the World took it from a decent enough selling beer to one of the biggest brands around. And the website games are some amusing little time wasters. Now I’m not trying to tell anyone how to run AD, it’s just that the products work and work well (as anyone here can attest to) and the costumer service is the best of any company of any kind I’ve ever dealt with. That said I just really want to see it be as successful as I know it can be. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/14 "2010-06-26T04:07:00Z")
I say we need some youtube vids with Steve acting like Billy Mays. Hi there, Steve here with MX777. Now what we have here is the EVOLUTION of pheromone usage. In it we have 18000 individual ingredients which come together to make the most potent [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) in the world that gets you whatever you want. _scene change: office, shaking hands with bill gates or something, with hot office gals around_ In the office! _golfing, with hot golf gals around_ On the green! _insert last scene from happy gilmore here_ _desert, hot caravan gals around_ On the go! _sprays on guy stranded in the desert, water jug falls from sky, girls surround him_ _random location, all you see is legs sticking up from the floor occasionaly, flying clothes_ Just about anywhere! I’d say that could go viral 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/15 "2010-06-26T04:13:42Z")
I like the way your mind works ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/16 "2010-06-26T04:41:45Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Personally I’m ok with the price increase. Obviously I’d prefer to pay 69 dollars for a 10ml than 109. Who wouldn’t? But as you pointed out, A314 among other things has potential for increasing income, which in my case it has. > > One thing I’m hoping for is for AD to expand, perhaps a larger production facility. In the short time I’ve been a customer and poster I’ve seen I’ve noticed the current demand for product to be significantly high in relation to the supply. I don’t mean this as a way of harping on the out of stock issues of the recent past, but rather as praise. In today’s economic climate companies would kill to be able to say they’ve run out of product and their customers will have to wait for a bit. > > However if the company expanded, buying and selling in larger quantities usually comes with volume discounts. A savings that could possibly be passed along to the consumer later on, thus possibly bringing A314 down in price again…later on down the road of course. > > One of the big worries companies have when contemplating expansion is over estimating the product demand and losing the capital that was used to expand and increase production. The one way to get around this is to couple high tech low cost viral marketing tactics with creative rebranding. > Say what you want about AXE but they’re marketing genius’s, every time a new fragrance comes out it gets a unique logo and gimick, usually including interactive activities on the website and facebook profile. Dos Equise is an even better example, The Most Interesting Man in the World took it from a decent enough selling beer to one of the biggest brands around. And the website games are some amusing little time wasters. > > Now I’m not trying to tell anyone how to run AD, it’s just that the products work and work well (as anyone here can attest to) and the costumer service is the best of any company of any kind I’ve ever dealt with. > That said I just really want to see it be as successful as I know it can be. That’s a good point and something I’ve thought about myself. But you also have to consider that sometimes the more hard-to-get an item is, the more desirable it is. 😃 Not sure if that’s what AD is going for though haha. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/17 "2010-06-26T05:08:13Z")
Maybe they should get together with the ad firm that did the old spice commercials. Those are always good. That firm does a lot of good work actually. ---
**Author:** ![tranquil43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@tranquil43](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tranquil43)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/18 "2010-06-26T12:50:40Z")
I see the 15ml version is no longer being offered? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/19 "2010-06-26T13:21:07Z")
> [@tranquil43](#): > > I see the 15ml version is no longer being offered? Its an on and off thing. For reasons unknown to me AD can switch on and off the various 1-4x options of the instant line and also for the 10 or upgraded 15 mL of A314. It’ll be back though. If you haven’t tried it before the 10 mL might be a better option since even though its AD’s trade mark product not everyone takes to it equally. ---
**Author:** ![tranquil43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@tranquil43](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tranquil43)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605/20 "2010-06-26T13:24:42Z")
Well I got the 15ml version due to the fact that it was priced at $130 when I bought it so I figured what’s 30 extra bucks 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-a314-more-affordable-quantities/39605.md?page=2)