# Alpha female mix? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 8, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208 "2011-11-08T00:50:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tinaN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tinan/32/362_2.png) [@tinaN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tinaN)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/1 "2011-11-08T00:50:03Z")
Hey guys, One quick question: What kind of mix you use to create an alpha female vibe? I know IS/A is not available anymore but is there anything that is similar to that? More importantly, is there anything I can use from my own collection? Thanks šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/2 "2011-11-08T01:56:06Z")
I donā€™t go for the alpha female vibe, but from what I have read I think that androstenone is part of creating an alpha female vibe. Have you tried a small spray of ammo in combination with something to temper it ā€“ IS/b maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/3 "2011-11-08T02:08:19Z")
Iā€™ve had some success using A314, but for women, we only need a little, and it must absolutely be buffered with something else (to avoid being perceived as bitchy). I did quite a bit of testing with it, this may help [A314 on a woman?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-a-woman/29614) ---
**Author:** ![tinaN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tinan/32/362_2.png) [@tinaN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tinaN)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/4 "2011-11-08T02:23:23Z")
@xev: I havenā€™t had a chance to test out [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) that much, I believe it makes me feel more masculine and outgoing. Have you ever used them before? How many sprays do you think I should use? šŸ™‚ @Sillykitty: Doesnā€™t A314 on women makes other women feel uneasy around you? Would it scare them off or something? ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/5 "2011-11-08T02:37:18Z")
> [@tinaN](#): > > Doesnā€™t A314 on women makes other women feel uneasy around you? Would it scare them off or something? I havenā€™t noticed that (when buffered or softened with another product of course), in fact, Iā€™ve had women (at my previous job) who had hardly spoken to me previously, become chattier and more friendly. You just have to experiment mixing other products with the A314 to find which produces the best reactions for you. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/6 "2011-11-10T02:36:48Z")
To be honest from a guys point of view I would be waaaay less likely to approach a female with an alpha vibe but maybe thatā€™s just me, unless you are going to do the approaching. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/7 "2011-11-10T13:18:23Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > To be honest from a guys point of view I would be waaaay less likely to approach a female with an alpha vibe but maybe thatā€™s just me, unless you are going to do the approaching. Itā€™s probably not _just_ you, but itā€™s not all guys either. šŸ™‚ If sheā€™s interested in an alpha vibe, Iā€™d guess sheā€™s not a wallflower waiting for guys to approach. Or maybe sheā€™s more interested in influencing her career/professional interactions. And if her natural personality runs towards the alpha side of things, sheā€™s probably not interested in trying to repress that just to get approaches from guys who donā€™t like alpha females. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/8 "2011-11-10T19:02:30Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > To be honest from a guys point of view I would be waaaay less likely to approach a female with an alpha vibe but maybe thatā€™s just me, unless you are going to do the approaching. A314 doesnā€™t necessarily give women an ā€œalpha vibeā€ in the way I think your thinking ofā€¦like butch or something. With the right buffers, it can make a woman feel more confident, outgoing, upbeat, and she will be perceived as a positive, confident person worthy of respect. So I guess thatā€™s an ā€œalpha vibeā€ in a way, but definitely not a turn-off, not in my experience anyway. And confidence in a person, regardless of gender, is _always_ attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/9 "2011-11-10T19:04:03Z")
> [@xev](#): > > Itā€™s probably not _just_ you, but itā€™s not all guys either. šŸ™‚ > > If sheā€™s interested in an alpha vibe, Iā€™d guess sheā€™s not a wallflower waiting for guys to approach. Or maybe sheā€™s more interested in influencing her career/professional interactions. > > And if her natural personality runs towards the alpha side of things, sheā€™s probably not interested in trying to repress that just to get approaches from guys who donā€™t like alpha females. She might also be a little on the shy and quiet side, and a product like A314 can help her be more outgoing and confident. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/10 "2011-11-10T19:24:39Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > A314 doesnā€™t necessarily give women an ā€œalpha vibeā€ in the way I think your thinking ofā€¦like butch or something. > > With the right buffers, it can make a woman feel more confident, outgoing, upbeat, and she will be perceived as a positive, confident person worthy of respect. > > So I guess thatā€™s an ā€œalpha vibeā€ in a way, but definitely not a turn-off, not in my experience anyway. And confidence in a person, regardless of gender, is _always_ attractive. I see what your saying and agree that confidence is attractive. ---
**Author:** ![tinaN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tinan/32/362_2.png) [@tinaN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tinaN)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/11 "2011-11-11T07:46:49Z")
True I always needed a boost in confident, I do experience low self-esteem a lot and I donā€™t think Iā€™m a bad looking girl (My friends and my workmates all consider me to be an attractive person). Also Iā€™m very quiet in the crowd, I will talk if I know the person well, I have a big fear of rejection (in both social and dating aspect). ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/12 "2011-11-11T17:19:15Z")
> [@tinaN](#): > > True I always needed a boost in confident, I do experience low self-esteem a lot and I donā€™t think Iā€™m a bad looking girl (My friends and my workmates all consider me to be an attractive person). Also Iā€™m very quiet in the crowd, I will talk if I know the person well, I have a big fear of rejection (in both social and dating aspect). Those are issues that Iā€™ve dealt with as well, and A314 has been extremely helpful. Tell you what, I noticed that IO is something you have, have you found it to help with your shyness? Iā€™ve been thinking about trying out A314 with IO (funny, Iā€™ve tried it with lots of Pā€™s and MXā€™s but not much with the Instant products), I will test that in the next few days and let you know how it goes. I may try it with MX397 as well, since I noticed you have that one also (unless you ran out since I donā€™t see it in your list, but I did see it in your reports).. ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/13 "2011-11-11T17:34:56Z")
You ladies might want to consider using minuscule amounts of A314 to supplement whatever soft, sexy lady-mones you usually like to use. The way I do that with products that are too strong is to mix up a togo-sprayer such that 1 spray = 1/2 or even 1/4 of a drop of product. So you would put like 10 drops of A314 in the sprayer and fill it up the rest of the way with alcohol or perfume. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/14 "2011-11-11T17:50:15Z")
> [@dbot](#): > > You ladies might want to consider using minuscule amounts of A314 to supplement whatever soft, sexy lady-mones you usually like to use. > > The way I do that with products that are too strong is to mix up a togo-sprayer such that 1 spray = 1/2 or even 1/4 of a drop of product. So you would put like 10 drops of A314 in the sprayer and fill it up the rest of the way with alcohol or perfume. Thanks, dbot! Though Iā€™ve had great success using just one drop of A314 oil, and splitting it between forearms and collarbone region, then adding another, softening/buffering oli-based or alcohol-based product after, as my ā€œtop coatā€. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/15 "2011-11-11T18:46:39Z")
Actually now that I think about it, IG might be a better choice. I could see a single spray giving an ā€œunder the protection of a powerful manā€ vibe without overly masculinizing the wearer. Perhaps in conjunction with some IS/b. Alternately, if you want to get into single molecules, Iā€™m thinking DHEAS could be valuable for ladies. In my experience it has some light alpha charisma without being too masculine. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/16 "2011-11-11T18:50:54Z")
> [@dbot](#): > > Actually now that I think about it, IG might be a better choice. I could see a single spray giving an ā€œunder the protection of a powerful manā€ vibe without overly masculinizing the wearer. Perhaps in conjunction with some IS/b. > > Alternately, if you want to get into single molecules, Iā€™m thinking DHEAS could be valuable for ladies. In my experience it has some light alpha charisma without being too masculine. Although, if we are trying to attract someone, we donā€™t want to give of the impression of being ā€œunder the protection of a powerful manā€, we want to give the impression of being a happy confident girl who can hold her own (without coming off as butch, of course, though maybe some girls might want that in which case they should just use A314 straight up). ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/17 "2011-11-11T18:53:46Z")
Yeah, thatā€™s a good point. Unfortunately, I suspect itā€™s something youā€™re likely to run up against with any use of androsterone, since itā€™s a specifically male [pheromone](https://a314.com/). I believe I saw a study recently which found that androsterone on a woman acted as a male repellant. IG would at least be softer than A314, but maybe neither would give good results for attraction. I do think DHEAS is worth investigating, and pregnenolone. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/18 "2011-11-11T18:59:36Z")
> [@dbot](#): > > Yeah, thatā€™s a good point. Unfortunately, I suspect itā€™s something youā€™re likely to run up against with any use of androsterone, since itā€™s a specifically male pheromone. I believe I saw a study recently which found that androsterone on a woman acted as a male repellant. IG would at least be softer than A314, but maybe neither would give good results for attraction. > > I do think DHEAS is worth investigating, and pregnenolone. You might find this interesting [A314 on a woman?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-on-a-woman/29614) ---
**Author:** ![tinaN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tinan/32/362_2.png) [@tinaN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tinaN)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/19 "2011-11-14T06:15:00Z")
I have Ammunition, just wondering if it does the same thing? Would it butch me up in a way? I feel a bit masculine wearing it šŸ˜‘ ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208/20 "2011-11-14T06:17:51Z")
> [@tinaN](#): > > I have Ammunition, just wondering if it does the same thing? Would it butch me up in a way? I feel a bit masculine wearing it šŸ˜‘ Ammo contains male sex hormones, which in would most likely repel men or cause you to seem less attractive. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-female-mix/53208.md?page=2)