# alpha nol vs beta nol

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-nol-vs-beta-nol/12178>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 4, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-nol-vs-beta-nol/12178 "2008-05-04T19:26:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-nol-vs-beta-nol/12178/1 "2008-05-04T19:26:49Z")

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Whats the difference between the two?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-nol-vs-beta-nol/12178/2 "2008-05-04T19:41:05Z")

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The Following is from Toil’s “Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp” in the stickies. Maybe someone would like to add to it but it’s pretty good.

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> Alpha Androstenol: Alpha androstenol is a communication pheromone. It promotes communication and openness between people regardless of gender. Alpha androstenol is friendly, approachable, and can make you seem less of threat to women. It is also chatty, and at times silly and spacey. It is used in many products. It is very good for breaking barriers in regards to dating/prowling/relationships. Take mild caution as androstenol can be feminine and decrease your masculine presence, cause people to not stop talking to you, or space out at higher doses.
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> Alpha androstenol is used in many men’s products as well as womens. I’m going to focus on the men’s products (some are offered for both sexes). Alpha androstenol is used in Instant Openness ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) (70% alpha, 30% beta), Instant Honesty ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)) (70% beta, 30% alpha), Come talk to me 2 (50/50 alpha/beta), and Spaceland (100mcg per spray alphanol + an herbal additive). Remember as before with the Ammunition ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) and Turn up the Heat ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) (T.U.T.H. or Turn Up The Heat ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/))) the –Androstenol products offered have other ingredients to further the effects.
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> Beta Androstenol: Beta –Androstenol is also a communication pheromone like alpha –Androstenol. It differs in the type of communication. Beta –Androstenol is relatively new compared to Alpha –Androstenol so there is not as much information. (there is still plenty of information though). Beta –Androstenol promotes deeper connections and conversation. It can also promote honesty (ie [instant honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) having a higher ratio of beta to alpha). Beta –Androstenol is not as approachable as alpha –Androstenol. You may have to initiate more conversation with beta –Androstenol than with alph –Androstenol. Beta –nols decreased approachability is not the same as –none’s. Beta –Androstenol is not offensive in it’s approachability like –none’s somewhat aggressive vibe.
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> Beta Androstenol is normally used with alpha Androstenol. It can be worn by its self, but better results may be seen with the use of alpha –Androstenol

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-nol-vs-beta-nol/12178/3 "2008-05-04T19:47:04Z")

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Good explanation and quote renny

Jay, there are very detailed posts in the last thread you made, did you check back?

> [@IO or IH: are the differences between them small or big?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-or-ih/11989):
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> I know there is a difference, but are they small differences or big differences. I like to ask lots of questions, so I get the [best pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) education I can get. Thanks and peace.

And it will be great to let us know it the information was useful to answer your question, as there wasn’t much reply from you after posing the question 🙂 thx
