# Alpha-Social Experiments? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 24, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-social-experiments/11761 "2008-04-24T15:34:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-social-experiments/11761/1 "2008-04-24T15:34:04Z")
Hi, I am running low on some of the staples so it is time to restock. What is more, I have recently had my interest piqued by the idea of experimenting with a number of the more obscure products out there. My primary interest lies in High Value Alpha-Male type mixes with more of a social vibe than a sexual one, so [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) has really caught my eye. I like what I have been hearing about Instant Openness, but, I already have Come Talk To Me Mix 2. It is not bad at all, but certainly nothing to write home about. So I must wonder, is Instant Openness _significantly_ different from CTTMM2? I’m also curious about TAA. I just ran out of IS a few days ago, I wasn’t aware of how much I relied on it until I ran out! As much as I like IS, I think I want to try something new. Don’t get me wrong, I like it, but not the way some people rant and rave about it. Now, I understand that they aren’t _actually_ the same thing, but, are their effects similar enough that they could fill the same niche in a mix? Or, do I really need to buy them both? I know this is a lot of questions, so I really appreciate any and all responses. What, if any, Putatives or Test Mixes might you guys recommend for someone who is hardly a noob, but that hasn’t been doing their own mixing for _very_ long? Thanks all for any responses. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-social-experiments/11761/2 "2008-04-24T16:15:08Z")
TAA is the main molecule in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). A few users have reported that while the results between TAA and IS are similar, IS is more refined and less edgy. I find them to be about the same myself, and if you’re planning on mixing, I would probably say to go with TAA, as you can mix with more accurate mcg and per spray levels. ---
**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-social-experiments/11761/3 "2008-04-25T04:14:46Z")
Ok thank you mark, that is exactly what I was wanting to know. Along similar lines, given that I will be mixing it (not using it as a stand alone) what mcg/spray dosage would you recommend for the TAA? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-social-experiments/11761/4 "2008-04-25T15:55:25Z")
No problem. As to what mcg/apray you should get. I would recommend the highest concentrations you can afford, or at least a concentration as high or higher than the mcg/spray you want the final mix to be, multiplied by the number of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) you intend to mix. You can always dilute the mcg level, but you cannot un-dilute it. I.E.: If you plan to mix 6 different compounds and want a final ratio of 5 mcgs per spray of each compound, then if you purchased all 5 molecules at 30 mcg/spray, you would mix equal amounts of each. If you wanted a mix something like SteveO’s 0.25.1a mix, you could compound as follows: TAA - 4 ml TAC - 5 ml P74 - 5 ml P93 - 3 ml B-Androstenol - 5 ml None - 5 ml With all molecules purchased at 30 mcg, this would give you a final per spray ratio of 4 mcg’s TAA, 5 mcg’s TAC, 5 mcg’s P74, 3 mcg’s P93, 5 mcg’s B-Androstenol, and 5 mcg’s None. If you purchase molecules at differing mcg’s per spray, it becomes a lot more complicated trying to duplicate somebody elses mix, or accurately compound your own mix. Additionally, remember that your final per spray ratio cannot be higher than the mcg/spray you purchased divided by the number of molecules in the mix. So if you were to get everything at 2.5 mcg’s per spray and compound the 0.25.1A mix, then wanted to wear an application with 15 mcg’s of None and BetaNol, it would take 36 sprays to do so. Whereas, had you purchased everything at 30 mcg’s it would only take 3 sprays. Hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-social-experiments/11761/5 "2008-04-25T18:36:20Z")
That absolutely helps, mark. Thank you very much! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alpha-social-experiments/11761/6 "2008-04-25T19:12:33Z")
Anytime FutureKill. Glad I could help. 🙂