# Alter ego + AFA ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 2, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571 "2011-06-02T18:31:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Doef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@Doef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Doef)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/1 "2011-06-02T18:31:51Z")
would androstenone fragrance additive be a good one to add to alter ego to get the social parts up a bit? ---
**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/2 "2011-06-03T04:07:32Z")
Have you tried Alter Ego by itself? If not, try it. The product itself has androstenone in it. Use about 4 or 5 dabs on yourself for a couple of days and report back about your findings/adventures. You may not need to add AFA after all. I use Passion, by itself, from the same company and I get subtle to noticeable reactions from women. Try Alter Ego by itself before adding anything else. Have fun. ODG ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/3 "2011-06-03T09:20:55Z")
AE is already anone heavy. I wouldn’t add any unless you wanna repel man, woman and beast. On the other hand, you might find anol a better supplement for socializing. Personally I don’t find AE very social but, instead, is kinda like a mean A314 with a dash of horndog. Good for roll in the hay or a fight but not the thing for church bingo or tea with the inlaws… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/4 "2011-06-03T09:35:51Z")
Yes - Give AE its chance first, it is IME very good for building a slow smouldering passion. Go for a long drive with your target - she may well ask you to pull-over and “do things” after a while! 😃 It can be softened/steered by other mones - I have used beta androstenol to great effect for a happy/sexy party feel that went down well with women in their 20s/early30s. About 18-24mcg (have pushed it up to @60mcg) to 3-4 drops AE but I was not using Androtics betanol, so dose may not be as certain. IS also works pretty well but needs regular topups, compared to just one in a typical night for the betanol. It also worked reasonably well with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) to give a much more sexual kick. 2-3 drops alongside my usual of 297. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/5 "2011-06-03T09:45:16Z")
> [@Onedzguy](#): > > I use Passion, by itself, from the same company and I get subtle to noticeable reactions from women. I’ve also used this in conjunction with AE - with some interesting and quite polarised results. It can provoke some pretty extreme reactions either way. ---
**Author:** ![Latinboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@Latinboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Latinboy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/6 "2011-06-03T15:17:27Z")
Hey Im 27 and i got 2 hits with 2 drops 1 each side of neck, no everybody hit but when it hit it hit man, this 2 times that i told u were really amazing, the sex was really amazing and wild, she was kissing me the spot where i put the drop lol, amazing man, but its no all the time and i dont want a phero to work just in some women. try it and let us know. good luck… ---
**Author:** ![Doef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@Doef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Doef)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/7 "2011-06-03T21:32:05Z")
o yea, uhm where to apply the Alter ego? ill start off with 1 drop i guess. neck,wrists? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/8 "2011-06-03T23:17:36Z")
Yup - Start around the neck/throat area and work out. I would usually do neck, wrists, then throat, forearms and finally jawline if I was using a load. And if you do go up to six drops, end-up near a shower/bath. You will be minging in the morning - but she may not complain! 😮 😃 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/9 "2011-06-03T23:31:46Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes - Give AE its chance first, it is IME very good for building a slow smouldering passion. Go for a long drive with your target - she may well ask you to pull-over and “do things” after a while! 😃 > > It can be softened/steered by other mones - I have used beta androstenol to great effect for a happy/sexy party feel that went down well with women in their 20s/early30s. About 18-24mcg (have pushed it up to @60mcg) to 3-4 drops AE but I was not using Androtics betanol, so dose may not be as certain. IS also works pretty well but needs regular topups, compared to just one in a typical night for the betanol. > > **It also worked reasonably well with MX297 to give a much more sexual kick. 2-3 drops alongside my usual of 297.** Alright, Mob! I know you were waiting for me. 😃 When people speak AE, **I** listen, read and take notes. 😉 How much is your USUAL 297 do you wear with your 2-3 drops of AE? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/10 "2011-06-04T01:21:19Z")
I thought you might be M&M! 😃 OK, my typical [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) pattern is 2-3 sprays 297 (most usually two), plus a hit of none (various products) when the interaction is getting fun, close, personal with good escalating kino. However with AE and its slower oil base, I found it a bit different to work with. I would start the evening with 2 sprays 297 (throat/between forearms) and 1-2 drops AE. As the evening progressed - typically 3-4hrs in, and **only** if the interaction/kino other signs were getting positive but maybe a little earlier than with alcohol-based none, I would top-up with another 2-4 of drops AE and **maybe** one more spray 297 then return to the fray. It took a little longer to hit but, wow when AE hit, it was well worth it! 😃 Although with my ladies, I did eventually foresake the AE for 2x 297 and later a single spray of 12.5mcg Androstenone for its speed, simplicity and effectiveness but the least damage to 297’s charismatic qualities. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/11 "2011-06-04T19:22:31Z")
> [@Latinboy](#): > > but its no all the time and i dont want a phero to work just in some women. Sorry to tell you but that’s exactly what you’re going to get in every product… a phero that works in only SOME women / men etc. There is nothing out there working 100% of the time, its just not feasible to expect such results. People have a variety of tastes, which is one of the things that makes this whole life experience interesting. And lets be honest, do you want a product out there that if women you are clearly not interested in wore worked all of the time on you? Once again, it won’t happen because as it keeps getting repeated over and over here you can’t over ride free will or choice…but good luck in your endeavors. ---
**Author:** ![mrbigdick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8c91f0/32.png) [@mrbigdick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrbigdick)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/12 "2014-10-09T08:48:26Z")
> [@Onedzguy](#): > > Have you tried Alter Ego by itself? If not, try it. The product itself has androstenone in it. Use about 4 or 5 dabs on yourself for a couple of days and report back about your findings/adventures. You may not need to add AFA after all. I use Passion, by itself, from the same company and I get subtle to noticeable reactions from women. Try Alter Ego by itself before adding anything else. Have fun. > > ODG should we neeto apply 4 or 5 drops? where to apply on cloth or skin?which is the bet place to aplly neck,behind ears or chest? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/13 "2014-10-09T09:22:00Z")
> [@mrbigdick](#): > > should we neeto apply 4 or 5 drops? where to apply on cloth or skin?which is the bet place to aplly neck,behind ears or chest? This is where you need to do some testing yourself - We can’t tell you what dose will suit your own body chemistry best, so you need to test a range of doses in different situations to see what suits you best and when. Very broadly, less will probably suit formal, work and polite situations best, whilst more will do better in raunchy, uninhibited and fun times - when people are more comfortable with expressing arousal. The Application Points sticky covers all you need to know about application but don’t get too hung-up on it. So long as it has decent circulation to help the pheros diffuse, its a valid app point. Don’t waste your expensive and difficult to get pheros by applying on clothes - You will need to use far greater quantities but still get poorer effects and other problems, plus a more limited range of effective situations. Its skin all the way for most effective diffusion, greatest economy and widest range of situations. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-afa/50571/14 "2014-10-11T09:58:54Z")
so what are the problems if apply mones on clothes?