# Alter ego or AMMO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 9, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182 "2010-11-09T13:55:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![purpleblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc348/32.png) [@purpleblood](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/purpleblood)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/1 "2010-11-09T13:55:57Z")
I need a standalone product that has the 3 mones none rone and nol, because i don’t like to mix…Any1 around has tried both ammo and AE?? if yes what are your feedbacks??? which one would you recommend to me (29 years old)…I know that AE is more concentrated but i know also that concentration of mones doesn’t always mean better … ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/2 "2010-11-09T15:33:55Z")
Alter Ego seems to be 2 parts None to one part Rone and 1.5 parts Nol. Whereas [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is equal parts of all three making it imo more well buffered and versatile. Usually the best way to avoid a None OD is to have more socials in terms of total mcg than None. Alter Ego has more none than anything else and thus imo would likely be easier to OD on if used as a standalone. ---
**Author:** ![purpleblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc348/32.png) [@purpleblood](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/purpleblood)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/3 "2010-11-09T16:00:18Z")
thanks yeh i think its better not to go heavy on none..if i want to add none i can use a dab from my A7..would you prefer IO or IS if you had to wear only 1 of them ? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/4 "2010-11-09T16:09:38Z")
between the two I prefer instant shine. IO is a bit too chatty for my taste. ---
**Author:** ![purpleblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc348/32.png) [@purpleblood](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/purpleblood)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/5 "2010-11-09T16:15:08Z")
u mean ppl will become so chatty with you or you will become so chatty? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/6 "2010-11-09T16:22:43Z")
They get chatty, sometimes its cool but it can put me in a position where I have to almost be rude and cut them off. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/7 "2010-11-09T16:27:39Z")
I would go with AMMO and here is why… In forum reviews overall AMMO gets much better satisfied feedback. Its a better balanced product. As you mentioned higher concentration doesn’t necessarily mean more effective product. To much can have adverse reactions and its easier to work up them have to dilute down. Ammo comes in a spray. Easy to apply, covers more skin and more accurate control of dosage. Rad is correct on the ratio. Its 0.2mg/ml -none, 0.15mg/ml -nol, 0.1 mg/ml -rone Total mones per bottle 3.375 mg Had to check my math LOL 3.375 mg converts to 3375 mcg/7.5ml=450mcg/24 drop pr ml= 18.75 mcg per drop of total mone. Its Anone heavy so I estimate its about 11 to 13 mcg of anone per drop. You would need more buffering with the arone and anol. I hate math…Math Majors check my math 🙂 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/8 "2010-11-09T17:02:38Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I would go with AMMO and here is why… > > In forum reviews overall AMMO gets much better satisfied feedback. > > Its a better balanced product. > > As you mentioned higher concentration doesn’t necessarily mean more effective product. To much can have adverse reactions and its easier to work up them have to dilute down. > > Ammo comes in a spray. Easy to apply, covers more skin and more accurate control of dosage. > > Rad is correct on the ratio. Its 0.2mg/ml -none, 0.15mg/ml -nol, 0.1 mg/ml -rone Total mones per bottle 3.375 mg > > Had to check my math LOL > > 3.375 mg converts to 3375 mcg/7.5ml=450mcg/24 drop pr ml= 18.75 mcg per drop of total mone. Its Anone heavy so I estimate its about 11 to 13 mcg of anone per drop. You would need more buffering with the arone and anol. > > I hate math…Math Majors check my math 🙂 > > Tisha Looks right But now my head hurts ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/9 "2010-11-09T17:25:22Z")
**BOTH!** But if your pockets can’t afford it … I like AE for cozy dates at home where snuggling and maybe, doing the nasty is on the menu. I like AMMO when I’m out and about … and especially during the cold months. Still … regardless as to what people may say, you’re ONLY gonna find your answer by testing, so you can get one and test it, and then get the other and test it when funds are available. My two cents, and not a penny more! ---
**Author:** ![purpleblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc348/32.png) [@purpleblood](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/purpleblood)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/10 "2010-11-09T20:53:49Z")
radman thats whay i exactly want hehe…thanks guys 🙂)) im gonna start with ammo x1 then…since im looking for somthing that helps in my pick up game , not to heat up things cuz that im good at with no mones 🙂, and i wil get also IO x2 cuz i need lot of nols 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/11 "2011-03-30T02:56:40Z")
I like alter ego, and ill tell you why. Oil its in an oil form so it lasts much much longer and its not as in your face as sprays, diffuses better and lasts longer. plus talking such low amounts of erone and anol I doubt it makes much difference ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/12 "2011-03-31T01:46:29Z")
Obviously Ammo gives off a young vibe. I turn 40 this year and while people who don’t know me usually guess I’m 28-35, it’s been quite a while since anyone thought I was underage. Before I started using ammo, that is. When wearing it a few weeks ago a cashier asked me for ID when I was buying beer. I really thought she (a good looking ~35 year old) was kidding so I ignored her demand but she was adamant: No ID, no beer. I gave her my driver’s license, proved her wrong and she really looked surprised, so it wasn’t just a flirt or a joke. She must be a moron or in need of glasses though, cause no one else has treated me like a kid no matter what mones I’ve been wearing. ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/13 "2011-03-31T02:19:21Z")
It Might be More a Matter of Her Keeping Her Job… Most States have “Card Everyone” Policies if not an Actual Law… In My State if you Don’t Card and the Person is Found to be Underage you Lose your Job, get Fined, and Face Jail Time… Your Employer is Also Liable and Can Lose his Licence to Sell Alcohol… It’s ALOT Rougher then When I was a Kid… Normally the Person at the Register Will Not Hassle you Unless They are Forced Too… Heck, My Town has Weekly CrackDowns on Underage Cigarette and Beer Sales… ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/14 "2011-03-31T03:07:52Z")
> [@Pandakun](#): > > It Might be More a Matter of Her Keeping Her Job… Most States have “Card Everyone” Policies if not an Actual Law… In My State if you Don’t Card and the Person is Found to be Underage you Lose your Job, get Fined, and Face Jail Time… Your Employer is Also Liable and Can Lose his Licence to Sell Alcohol… It’s ALOT Rougher then When I was a Kid… > Normally the Person at the Register Will Not Hassle you Unless They are Forced Too… Heck, My Town has Weekly CrackDowns on Underage Cigarette and Beer Sales… In a couple of stores I visit, the manager demands the cashiers to card for smokes and beer. They get in trouble if they don’t; and the regulars get so pissed, now. Sorry to say, but I don’t think it’s the AMMO, Mis. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/15 "2011-03-31T04:31:32Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > In a couple of stores I visit, the manager demands the cashiers to card for smokes and beer. They get in trouble if they don’t; and the regulars get so pissed, now. > > Sorry to say, but I don’t think it’s the AMMO, Mis. 😃 I don’t live in the US, your rules don’t apply here. The legal age limit is 18. Not a single store demands mandatory ID when buying beer. Now you understand why I say she must be a moron or in need of something to improve her eyesight? ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/16 "2011-03-31T06:39:20Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > I don’t live in the US, your rules don’t apply here. The legal age limit is 18. Not a single store demands mandatory ID when buying beer. > > Now you understand why I say she must be a moron or in need of something to improve her eyesight? She Demanded Your ID… You Said No Store Does this and Yet She Did, Wow… So Stores in Your Area DO Need ID… Odds are as I Mentioned that it’s a Policy or there was a Problem Recently that Caused it… Stores are Free to Make Policy and Can Refuse Service to Any Costumer… That’s in Any Country… ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/17 "2011-03-31T15:18:20Z")
> [@Pandakun](#): > > She Demanded Your ID… You Said No Store Does this and Yet She Did, Wow… So Stores in Your Area DO Need ID… Odds are as I Mentioned that it’s a Policy or there was a Problem Recently that Caused it… Stores are Free to Make Policy and Can Refuse Service to Any Costumer… That’s in Any Country… Yes, in all of Europe even every street vendor asks ID even from senior citizens when even buying a can of soda. ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/18 "2011-03-31T19:29:31Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > Yes, in all of Europe even every street vendor asks ID even from senior citizens when even buying a can of soda. Nice DICK Response, I wasn’t Rude to You and I’d Tend to Expect the Same in Return… I Only Said that Maybe the Store had a Policy in Place that Required the Carding… Store Policies Do Change over Time and Circumstance… ---
**Author:** ![Moma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@Moma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Moma)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/19 "2011-03-31T20:03:36Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > Yes, in all of Europe even every street vendor asks ID even from senior citizens when even buying a can of soda. I used to live in Europe. They hardly ID you. I hadn’t shown ID in Europe since I was 15. They are not as stringent as they are in the U.S. The jury is still out on your experience, Misein. Maybe you are onto something. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182/20 "2011-03-31T20:11:07Z")
> [@Pandakun](#): > > Nice DICK Response, I wasn’t Rude to You and I’d Tend to Expect the Same in Return… I Only Said that Maybe the Store had a Policy in Place that Required the Carding… Store Policies Do Change over Time and Circumstance… Hey, calm down. I didn’t mean to sound _that_ much of an asshole. 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alter-ego-or-ammo/43182.md?page=2)