# Alternative for IFM **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 10, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160 "2012-01-10T11:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![arif8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@arif8020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arif8020)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/1 "2012-01-10T11:42:20Z")
Hi, I have seen references to IFM quite often on this forum and I would have seriously liked to try that. But ofcourse, it is no longer available to order. Wanted to know if AD has any alternative product for IFM. Regards, ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/2 "2012-01-10T12:16:29Z")
There is no direct alternative for IFM and the formula has never been released. however, this is an alternative for A1 - IFM’s primary component: [MX412-MX413 vs A1 (-Androstadienone) Test Pack (Akuto & Neroli) :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ---
**Author:** ![arif8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@arif8020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arif8020)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/6 "2012-01-11T06:45:25Z")
The closest alternative to this i believe is MX412 / MX413 based on the below thread of SteveO… > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/androstadienone-reloaded-equals-a2-holy-freaking-38904-19.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life There is some mention about MX412/MX413 being the closest alternative for IFM without the adverse self-effects. (this is on page 19 of the thread, posted by “mayro” SteveO, Tisha, please give your look on this and correct me if I am mistaken. Regards, ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/7 "2012-01-11T09:43:17Z")
If you stick with using pheromones and get A1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find a mix comparable to the reports of IFM, just need to make sure to journal. I should really do that myself, actually. 🙄 Might be a good motivator to getting back into pheromone use. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/8 "2012-01-11T10:14:54Z")
> [@The Evolution of Pheromones - MX edition](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/167): > > There is some mention about MX412/MX413 being the closest alternative for IFM without the adverse self-effects. This is not an alternative IFM. MX412/MX413 are an attmpt to simulate its main component. However IFM had other components hat have never been disclosed. How were you wanting to use IFM? Because if attraction is involved, A1 may not be the best phero. On its own, it can be far too comforting/best-friendly. To be useful in attraction, A1 usually needs to be paired with none/other status/social pheros in a mix. As the board problems seem to mean I can’t post links just now, try searching-out the “ **A1 Guide** ” and the “ **A1 Mix Repository** ” threads here to get a better idea of A1’s good and bad points and how people have used it alongside other pheros to best effect. ---
**Author:** ![arif8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@arif8020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arif8020)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/9 "2012-01-11T10:49:21Z")
> [@Hey Now...Very PLEASED with my results!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-now-very-pleased-with-my-results/32792/2): > > This is not an alternative IFM. MX412/MX413 are an attmpt to simulate its main component. However IFM had other components hat have never been disclosed. > > How were you wanting to use IFM? Because if attraction is involved, A1 may not be the best phero. On its own, it can be far too comforting/best-friendly. To be useful in attraction, A1 usually needs to be paired with none/other status/social pheros in a mix. > > As the board problems seem to mean I can’t post links just now, try searching-out the “ **A1 Guide** ” and the “ **A1 Mix Repository** ” threads here to get a better idea of A1’s good and bad points and how people have used it alongside other pheros to best effect. Thanks mobocaster. Would search for the above and do some more research. And for the benefits of others, I am posting the link specifically to “A1 guides” (**Androstadienone Guide)** and \*\*(Androstadienone Mix Repository) A1 Guide: [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/androstadienone-guide-40630.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/androstadienone-guide-40630.html) A1 \*\*\*\*Mix Repository: [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/androstadienone-mix-repository-45788.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/androstadienone-mix-repository-45788.html) \*\*These might not be the absolutely correct threads, but I believe they are and its for everybody’s benefit. Thanks again mobocaster.. Regards, ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/10 "2012-01-11T12:27:45Z")
Yup- Those are the threads. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alternative-for-ifm/54160/11 "2012-01-11T23:44:36Z")
> [@The Evolution of Pheromones - MX edition](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/167): > > The closest alternative to this i believe is MX412 / MX413 based on the below thread of SteveO… > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/androstadienone-reloaded-equals-a2-holy-freaking-38904-19.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/androstadienone-reloaded-equals-a2-holy-freaking-38904-19.html) > > There is some mention about MX412/MX413 being the closest alternative for IFM without the adverse self-effects. (this is on page 19 of the thread, posted by “mayro” > > SteveO, Tisha, please give your look on this and correct me if I am mistaken. > > Regards, MX412 and MX413 had nothing to do with that thread. That was a Dancing Joker special he sent me to test. Its to molecule heavy and using molecules no longer available. I believe the A1 alternative MX series was based off of members reports.