# Am I doing it wrong?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 28, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070 "2009-07-28T18:41:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Imjustpete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Imjustpete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Imjustpete)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070/1 "2009-07-28T18:41:18Z")
I constantly read this forum and I always read post about how with just 2 sprays this or that I have had people gathering at my desk, or girls rubbing their breast on me , DIHL looks , people following me through the store etc. I have been using these products for quite a while now and have never had a BLATENT hit. Dont get me wrong I have had my fair share of hits usually assisted by some work of my own. I am a very outgoing person most people who know me really like me. I have never really had a problem with girls after I stopped being afraid of them. I own A314 [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) TUTH IS CTTM2 Spaceland MX292 IH IO I have tested them all out individually like suggested ( no self effects which is a whole different story) I dont really know my “sweet spot” since I have never had a blatent hit. My Normal every day mix is 1 drop of A314 split between the wrist and 1 split between the ears 2 Sprays of Ammo 1 to upper chest and 1 to the back of the neck 2 Sprays of IS to left fore arm 2 Sprays of CTTM to Right fore arm I am a White/Italian Male 5’11" 230lbs (chubby but not a whale). Semi Dark Complexion .. Italian type of hairy ( you italians know what I mean) Please give me some sort of suggestion.. ---
**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070/2 "2009-07-28T20:27:41Z")
Hey Pete, As I am sure you have read, it is not only finding your sweet spot, but a lot depends on you. I have had good results and I have had an OD that caused girls to avoid me. It might not be what you want to hear, but maybe up your game a bit. I am having to do that as well being single again. I’m not a slob, but I can be in better shape and pay more attention to my overall appearance and increase my attractiveness to the women I am interested in. Where you might be running into women might matter as well. I have been to the grocery store many times wearing this and that, with nothing conclusive to report. Personally, I have seen the effects and while I know they are effective, there are limits of what they can do. I have said this before: I am not going to be pulling down supermodels because I spray pheros. I’d say work on finding your sweet spot as well and you might have more and better hits. ---
**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070/4 "2009-07-28T20:58:44Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > Maybe you should look at starting over from the beginning with 1 product. Test each one and post results for others to see. Do you have a journal? I know that sucks to start over, but you HAVE to recognize what each product does individually to even know if your mix is working as a whole. I totally concur with andrew. It makes no sense to have such a mix if you are not even sure what each of the products could afford you. If you want to keep-up with a mix. My only piece of advice and given that you seem to perceive no personal effects would be: a. Try AMMO or A314 in separate mixes and excluding the other. AMMO for attraction and A314 for respect. b. I will spray the IS on the neck not on the fore arm and try to increase that to 2 sprays. Test 1 spray AMMO and 2 IS and then increase the AMMO and so on. Then do the same with A314… As for the CTTM leave it on the wrist as you said you are outgoing and not afraid with girls. ---
**Author:** ![Imjustpete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Imjustpete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Imjustpete)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070/5 "2009-07-29T14:22:10Z")
Like I said previously I have had hits using Pheros but normailly I am the initiator. I know what IOI’s are and again as previously stated there is no trouble with my game. What I have never seen is the blatant hits that are discussed constantly on the board. I feel that I could pour a whole bottle of IS or None over my head (obviously I wouldnt) and I wouldnt see a difference in anyones behavior good or bad. The hits I have had have been while in close quarters chatting someone up and then I get the smell compliment etc… ~~~ The reason I wear Pheros is just because I find them interesting.. I am a strong beliver in primal instincts and like to see them in action. Which is why I am anti marriage etc. Monogomy goes against every instinct man has. The reason I wear the mix that I do is because I know what each product is supposed to do and have read many peoples journals / post here and it seemed like a good mix to go with. I cant personally smell/react to the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) (minus spaceland I can smell that one) ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070/6 "2009-07-30T00:53:46Z")
> [@Imjustpete](#): > > Like I said previously I have had _ **hits using Pheros but normally I am the initiator** _. I know what IOI’s are and again as previously stated there is no trouble with my game. Is it possible that the highlighted words are key to the mix so to speak ? ---
**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070/8 "2009-07-30T02:16:34Z")
I think he is referring to the really hard hits, DIHL, Steve’s You smell like sex, things like that. Soft hits are good, blatent hits are fun. I’ve only had a few, but there good. 😃 I have had many hits where I wasn’t the instigator. I doubt I’ll ever see a hit where I don’t have to do my part after that. Pete, can I ask how much things have changed using pheros vs before you did. What’s changed? ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/am-i-doing-it-wrong/31070/9 "2009-07-30T02:38:19Z")
Try this. A good heavy application of [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/). Just CTTM. Nothing else. Find a crowd of over 40 folks. (men or women) The older the better. See if you can get them to shut up. lol OoohYahhh