# Ammo and IO around my sister's friend: would TUTH move things faster?

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**Created:** [January 19, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-io-around-my-sisters-friend-would-tuth-move-things-faster/25065 "2009-01-19T06:21:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![xZxChris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xzxchris/32/2005_2.png) [@xZxChris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xZxChris)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-io-around-my-sisters-friend-would-tuth-move-things-faster/25065/1 "2009-01-19T06:21:34Z")

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Okay so i want to talk to one of my sisters friends but everytime i see her my sisters there so i would hate to make the first move. I have AMMO and IO. I use ammo around her and were always really close to eachother but i think i might need TUTH to help things move faster? because nothing is going on at all but i have a feeling she likes me will TUTH help me get better results than AMMO does in this situation

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 8:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-io-around-my-sisters-friend-would-tuth-move-things-faster/25065/2 "2009-01-19T08:41:42Z")

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Hi Chris 🙂

If I were you I’d back off on the sexual pheromones and concentrate more on the social ones. Try the Instant Openness by itself. It’s often a better tact, when interested in a girl, to get her comfortable with you first. You’re a young man and already pumping out quite a bit of your own Androstenone. Even though you may not be making overt sexual advances towards her, you are sending those signals via pheromones. Using AMMO and TUTH signal sexual vibes that may be putting her off. The thing you want to do is create a fun, upbeat attractive vibe that will draw her in. Just take it a bit slow to start. Trust me. 😉 Once you establish a friendly connection where she feels comfortable with you, you can try adding the AMMO to that.

If you want to order other pheromones try Instant Shine, Instant Honesty and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Instant Female Magic ain’t called that for nuthin’. 😃 It’s great for putting women at ease. It works especially well on grumpy/tense women. Ya know, like the ones who PMS on your butt? Oh, and it works well on moms and sisters too. Instant Honesty is great for establishing a deeper connection and isn’t quite as yadda yadda talky as Openness. A combination of Instant Openness/Instant Honesty, Instant Shine and IFM would probably get you more of what you’re after.

As far as making a move…I don’t think it’s out of order, especially if she’s your sisters friend, to say hello. For Pete’s sake, it’s only civilized, right? 😃 😉

Anyways, my nickle. Hope it helps.

Bella

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-io-around-my-sisters-friend-would-tuth-move-things-faster/25065/3 "2009-01-19T12:53:04Z")

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Chris, have you learnt your lesson of last week? Leave the-none products alone, you produce enough of that already!

Like bella says and switched on guys like me(😃) have learnt. Concentrate on the socials, the easiest way to get a girl is to charm your way in and make her laugh. Getting all masculine and trying to rip her pants off is doomed to failure.

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**Author:** ![xZxChris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xzxchris/32/2005_2.png) [@xZxChris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xZxChris)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-io-around-my-sisters-friend-would-tuth-move-things-faster/25065/4 "2009-01-19T17:55:42Z")

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Hehe thanks for the replies. I havent tryed IO around her just ammo should i try IO alone or have both on?

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-io-around-my-sisters-friend-would-tuth-move-things-faster/25065/5 "2009-01-19T21:14:31Z")

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I agree with the other posts that you should stay away from -none based. She’s either going to be inclined to pursue you because you are her friends brother, or she’s going to be repelled by it. One way is, if you come on to her, she’s going to be into it already so ammo is pointless. The other she will run away.

Instant openness may get you two talking but it’s not going to get you much in the way of attraction unless she’s already inclined. Sometimes it can make you seem less masculine and more friendly

Instant shine and instant female magic would be my approach. Neither are overtly sexual, but they are both attractive in their effect. The IFM will help keep her calm and the shine will add little spice and brightness to your character. These are the qualities women really care about. Then if you’re remotely attractive and don’t give off the creep or “lets just be friends vibe,” your pretty much in.