# Ammo and Openness together: Anyone ever mixed them? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 12, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905 "2008-12-12T19:02:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/1 "2008-12-12T19:02:07Z")
Okay has anyone try IS-AMMO-IO and IFM… all at same time ? if so what results did you get? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/2 "2008-12-12T20:03:05Z")
I’m sure someone has. You could probably go without the IO and IS as it’s included in [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). Unless, of course, you need to include IS/IO to buffer the -none. Ammo is pretty well buffered as is though. Then just toss the IFM on top. I haven’t searched for it, but I’m almost certain it’s been done. ---
**Author:** ![CdubFTW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cdubftw/32/2463_2.png) [@CdubFTW](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CdubFTW)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/3 "2008-12-12T20:05:33Z")
Why yes..yes I have 😛 At a club/bar - gets em to open up, blush, you def get the #. On a date - Lots of IOI, closeness, lets you rub on there tatas..ummm afterwards with or w/o a shot of TUTH, preeety much a sexcapade..Or if you have a deep voice like me, alot of teasing and pre-tata fun 😃 Muuhahahar!! ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/4 "2008-12-12T20:05:54Z")
well I like the IS for self effects I have gone up to 6 sprays of that stuff on my face lol and 3 spray of AMMO but for tonight I was thinking about 5 spray of IS and 3 spray of AMMO and 4 spray of IFM and IO and see how it plays out lol ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/5 "2008-12-12T20:06:46Z")
I do have a deep voice lol and I am going on a dinner (date) and bar after so ---
**Author:** ![CdubFTW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cdubftw/32/2463_2.png) [@CdubFTW](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CdubFTW)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/6 "2008-12-12T20:29:14Z")
> [@dss](#): > > I do have a deep voice lol and I am going on a dinner (date) and bar after so Hey AND you’re from the my great state of TX, so its a WIN, my friend.. Peeeeaze ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/7 "2008-12-12T20:45:50Z")
> [@dss](#): > > well I like the IS for self effects I have gone up to 6 sprays of that stuff on my face lol and 3 spray of AMMO but for tonight I was thinking about 5 spray of IS and 3 spray of AMMO and 4 spray of IFM and IO and see how it plays out lol Try cutting everything in half. 1.5 spray Ammo, 3 sprays of IS, 2 sprays of IFM and IO. Be my guest if you want to try 3:5:4:4, but I’m just speaking from experience. I’m not calling it OD, but I do think it’s overkill. ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/8 "2008-12-12T21:50:44Z")
I tried Ammo and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (1 spray Ammo Game Scented to-go + 1 spray of IFM to-go) last week at work. Uncommunicative responses. Girls usually are nice and kind to me. That time they were’nt. They were just unresponsive. Not bad, but less good than usual… It may be better with Instant Openness… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/9 "2008-12-12T22:02:20Z")
Ammo is pretty complete as a standalone as it has a balance of androstenol, androstenone and androsterone. Adding IS (mainly androstenol) upsets the balance and takes the edge off, transforming the mild sensual vibe of Ammo to a softer chatty groove. Sorta like removing your nuts pheromonally speaking. Personally I’ve found little response to chemset A1 or the buffered IFM beyond PMS problems. For PMS it is the bee’s knees. Beyond hormonal upheavals, IFM never hurt but just didn’t do much. I’ve stopped using it as a regular part of my mixes. It does get used once a month religiously… ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/10 "2008-12-17T14:41:25Z")
Okay so I had this hangout/date deal going last night and my mix was IS-4 sprays face and back of neck IO-4 sprays split on wrist and throat IFM-4 sprays back of neck AMMO-3 sprays split on wrist,throat and back of neck over everything so I apply all that right before I got out car and the weather was cold as hell like 43 degree or something like that. well after she showed up I got a hand shake and we went inside to get are self a drink,well after the first drink she was drunk (I know sad) well we start talking and start asking each other questions and what not…I start playing with her figures to see how shes going to react (she broke up with her bf of year about two months ago) well she end up sitting very close to me and just holding my hand as we are talking well 3 hours goes on and shes STILL talking. (she made a comment on how amazing I smell and ask what it was) well after the place closed down around 12 or so I walk her to her car and she gives me a hug but doesn’t let go ? her head is on my shoulder and we are talking for a good min or two and she pulls her head back and just looks at me and says are you going to call me back again/see me? lol well I once again try push my luck and go for a little kiss but that didn’t work and its surprising because thats the first time I was rejected from getting a kiss whoa !!! lol well see if shes going to see/talk to me again …after all she was really drunk when all that happen so ya. oh ya almost forgot I should get my CTTM 2 today I am looking forward to it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/11 "2008-12-17T18:02:33Z")
Newer on the block. But have followed the lead of Tish and other Men on this thread. I have worked up to Ammo Daily, (2 sprays) [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) ( 2 sprays) and IFM (two sprays). This seems to be a nice mix for me. I’m married so it’s balanced. At work, it seems to be showing very positive “engaged” conversations and no OD or negative effects with my male colleagues. I will increase the IFM this week ⭕o for the love of my Wife and her mood.😉 I’m not clubbing and getting wild, so I’m keeping the attention helping smartomones to Ammo. In less than a month I have noticed So Many nice Glances and Incredible “interest” from other women, that I’m sold on it. I haven’t gotten phone numbers, because I’m married and I’m not asking for them lol 🙄 But I’m sure, very sure, the opportunity is there if I wanted to. The attention and touchy communications is fantastic…! ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/12 "2008-12-17T18:29:50Z")
you may want start a new post but i dont mind . ---
**Author:** ![KosmoKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eb8c5e/32.png) [@KosmoKnight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KosmoKnight)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/13 "2008-12-17T19:05:48Z")
DSS Do some research into the Mystery Method. Don’t take this the wrong way, but It sounds to me, and this is just a thought, but if you would have presented a stronger frame on your date you would have got your kiss and probabl more. Your blend by the way is the same thing I use for clubbing and it always works great. ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-openness-together-anyone-ever-mixed-them/23905/14 "2008-12-17T19:09:01Z")
ya your totally right … but now that I think about it I am happy it didn’t happen …because if there is a next time ill have more control over the date and what not… plus shes not a one night deal so slow isn’t bad.