# Ammo and Turn UP The Heat at the same time **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 10, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900 "2009-04-10T02:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JLove42009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@JLove42009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JLove42009)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/1 "2009-04-10T02:37:30Z")
Well, tried one spray IH 2x, one spray AMMO and one spray TUTH…with no result…dosage still not pleasing?? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/2 "2009-04-10T02:39:51Z")
We talked about this on the phone JLove42009. You are doubling up on the androstenone by spraying ammo and TUTH at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/3 "2009-04-10T07:15:44Z")
I sense a ghost… you need some Instant shine Stat… ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/4 "2009-04-10T07:21:36Z")
Or some Alphanol or more Betanol, for me these two coupled together helps revive the ghost. > [@djandarial](#): > > I sense a ghost… you need some Instant shine Stat… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/5 "2009-04-10T08:43:29Z")
You need to select mones and optimize dosage to fit your goals, persona and body chemistry. For me, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) as a standalone is basically a nice work and social product. For a buff ‘n hairy 19 year old, one spray may be an freakin’ over the top OD. I need to spike Ammo with extra androstenone for happy hour, drunken parties and hot dates, and still it’s pretty mellow. We’re all different. Of course no amount of mones will make any diff if she’s not into you or you’re not working the situation. ---
**Author:** ![jmcinaz2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jmcinaz2/32/898_2.png) [@jmcinaz2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jmcinaz2)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/6 "2009-04-10T08:48:59Z")
> [@JLove42009](#): > > Well, tried one spray IH 2x, one spray AMMO and one spray TUTH…with no result…dosage still not pleasing?? I got some AMAZING results with 2 sprays AMMO and 2 sprays of TUTH (applied to my wrists). I didn’t use any [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) though. Anyways, I stepped in line at this fast food joint and the girl ahead of me turned and stared for while. I then saw her trying to inch her way closer and closer to me in an attempted subtle manner, but it was obvious to me that she was turned on based on the look in her eyes. Dang…she looked too young, so I didn’t pursue any further. Oh, I also got 2 girls in their 30’s to give me repeated eye contact. So, I really got some results with this combo! ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/7 "2009-04-10T10:38:37Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Or some Alphanol or more Betanol, for me these two coupled together helps revive the ghost. = instant honesty? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/8 "2009-04-10T10:41:28Z")
> [@jmcinaz2](#): > > I got some AMAZING results with 2 sprays AMMO and 2 sprays of TUTH (applied to my wrists). I didn’t use any Instant Honesty though. > > Anyways, I stepped in line at this fast food joint and the girl ahead of me turned and stared for while. I then saw her trying to inch her way closer and closer to me in an attempted subtle manner, but it was obvious to me that she was turned on based on the look in her eyes. Dang…she looked too young, so I didn’t pursue any further. > > Oh, I also got 2 girls in their 30’s to give me repeated eye contact. So, I really got some results with this combo! caucasian girls seems to avoid me when using this dosage. maybe latinas would bite the hook? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/9 "2009-04-10T11:04:16Z")
Still both go well together, CTTM is another good one. 🙄 > [@deeddy](#): > > = instant honesty? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/10 "2009-04-10T11:12:01Z")
i think i experienced my first none OD last night, due to none buildup. i was using too much AMMO and TUTH during the last week… ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/11 "2009-04-10T13:22:01Z")
That sucks deeddy, I know how it feels but it happens and it can be a good learning experience. What did you feel? Self aggravation, or people ignoring you and snapping at you? > [@deeddy](#): > > i think i experienced my first none OD last night, due to none buildup. i was using too much AMMO and TUTH during the last week… ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/12 "2009-04-10T13:37:42Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > That sucks deeddy, I know how it feels but it happens and it can be a good learning experience. What did you feel? Self aggravation, or people ignoring you and snapping at you? I didn’t feel any self aggravation, probably because of getting immune to -none. My girlfriend and my best friend completely ignored me. They talked to everyone else, except me, which was unusual for them. They were not angry at me, they just tried to avoid me. It was funny to me at one point. I was really amused with the effect of too much -none. Oh, and no one really tried to confront me. I suppose two drops of A314 helped. 🙂 So, I guess, getting **OD on none helped with some A314 could be an interesting experience**! 😃 I’ll try to get some space and write about it in my journal. Some chicks tried to flirt with me just after once passing by. They were standing 15 ft away during the night, but once I get closer, they simply turned their back to me. It was very obvious they did that on purpose. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/13 "2009-04-10T13:46:54Z")
Yes, it does sound like OD. The girl probably found you attractive (probably just because of your looks/or both factors so possibly the -none wasn’t hitting her as hard from a distance.) When you got close she probably ghosted you because the -none finally hit her straight on up close. > [@deeddy](#): > > I didn’t feel any self aggravation, probably because of getting immune to -none. > > My girlfriend and my best friend completely ignored me. They talked to everyone else, except me, which was unusual for them. They were not angry at me, they just tried to avoid me. It was funny to me at one point. I was really amused with the effect of too much -none. > > Oh, and no one really tried to confront me. I suppose two drops of A314 helped. 🙂 So, I guess, getting **OD on none helped with some A314 could be an interesting experience**! 😃 > > Some chicks tried to flirt with me just after once passing by. They were standing 15 ft away during the night, but once I get closer, they simply turned their back to me. It was very obvious they did that on purpose. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JLove42009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@JLove42009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JLove42009)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/14 "2009-04-10T16:31:29Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > I sense a ghost… you need some Instant shine Stat… Ghost? What is a ghost? I usually spray IShine on in the morning before work, and Ammo in the evening around the Mrs… She’s 43, so I’m trying to find the dosage that is pleasing for her, and I know that age plays a role. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/15 "2009-04-10T18:19:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Ghost? What is a ghost? It’s his way of expressing an androstenone OD characterized by being ignored. It’s the gentlest type of androstenone OD. The next stage is FFO, Fight or Flight Syndrome. I suffered FFO on date a couple times. After she was through screaming at me she was really horny so it’s all good. FFO in a biker bar might not turn out as nice an experience… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/16 "2009-04-10T18:37:06Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > It’s his way of expressing an androstenone OD characterized by being ignored. It’s the gentlest type of androstenone OD. The next stage is FFO, Fight or Flight Syndrome. I suffered FFO on date a couple times. After she was through screaming at me she was really horny so it’s all good. FFO in a biker bar might not turn out as nice an experience… Are you insinuating that Lance Armstrong is violent ---
**Author:** ![jmcinaz2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jmcinaz2/32/898_2.png) [@jmcinaz2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jmcinaz2)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-turn-up-the-heat-at-the-same-time/27900/17 "2009-04-10T20:12:42Z")
> [@deeddy](#): > > caucasian girls seems to avoid me when using this dosage. maybe latinas would bite the hook? 😉 That is sooooo true. All three girls mentioned above were fine LATINAS while using the above stated mixture!