# Ammo combination

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 10, 2014, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343 "2014-03-10T06:01:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![hmero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a87d85/32.png) [@hmero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hmero)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/1 "2014-03-10T06:01:51Z")

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Okay I know for a fact that I’m going to be using [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) as a base for sure. I taken the time to do a small psych eval and I think this mix will do the trick for my main target but of course, I need some opinions from you guys.

Base - Regular Ammo (Not against using the summer edition but sticking with regular unless someone suggests otherwise)

Socials - IS/IO or IS/IH. Now my target isn’t hard to talk to, so I’m think instant honesty might be a better choice. I’ve talked to her drunk, she tends to talk talk talk but when she’s sober, its like picking a lock to get certain info. Only cracked that defense a few times.

P83 - I’ve read that with socials and Ammo, its a killer. Yes, Kino is very very possible, even in public outdoor places. She’s a weebit carefree at times, I warn her about that but according to her best friend, its really only around me.

Note, she’s only a year younger than me, literally…we share the same birthday.

So what do you guys think?

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**Author:** ![Jonny38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jonny38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonny38)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/2 "2014-03-10T11:02:44Z")

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Ammo, IH and IS is a winning combination.

I guess P83 would help a bit as well.  
I am trying P83 out myself and so far the main difference that I have seen is that I get approached more.  
Targets are less inhibited and I get ladies opening conversations. But its a subtle difference.

Try it and let us know how you do.

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**Author:** ![TheIrishWill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b487fb/32.png) [@TheIrishWill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheIrishWill)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/3 "2014-03-10T13:48:27Z")

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Im interested in seeing how this combo works out (Ive yet to begin testing myself!) What application points are you planning to use?

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**Author:** ![hmero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a87d85/32.png) [@hmero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hmero)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/4 "2014-03-10T17:24:23Z")

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Is in the hair  
Ammo on the neck  
Ih on the wrists  
P83 also the neck and wrists.

I just ordered ammo and ih to see how those two work together. I’ll probably order the rest on my birthday if it isn’t out of stock in two days

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**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/5 "2014-03-10T19:54:34Z")

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You don’t need a lot of pheros to get an effect. There’s people who mix 5, 6+ products expecting an effect, which often they do, but it’s not one most desirable. (Not saying yours is this, and actually seems pretty okay with right doses) The effect you want to achieve can sometimes be gotten with just 1 or 2 products most of the time. Every product you wear together, you lessen the strength of, which with enough products becomes a ghosting state. You send too many phero messages out there and people get confused and/or irritated by the headache you give them.(Not to mention the smell at that point you could be giving off) Also when mixing, you should take care because of the ratios you are changing within the product. Effectively making the mix a whole kind of somethin new. Usually you see this type of reporting with products that are low in the amount of different phero molecules in them(like IH is only 2 molecules + maybe secret stuff). Single mixing is how you basically make your own mixes and blends. ex, androstenone + Alpha Nols

ironically on what I just said and since your new to mones, enjoy a phero baptism. Meaning go all out with your pheros the first time or few times out, but only till you notice an effect of any kind. This helps you become a believer in that pheros do work and that they can be both an improvement and hindrance to your life. After you are now believing in pheros, it’s time to sweet spot test, see what works for you, and save money in the long run by not wasting product.

putatives and singles for a new user, not exactly the best route to take when just starting out your phero journey. Familiarize yourself with a consumer line product(s) first, usually more easier to use and get effects from.

idk if this is your first time using pheros? If it is, dont do a baptism around someone(s) you really care about. It can sometimes end ugly lol. If it is, then I would start small.

To use your very very potent combo in front of someone who knows you already, may draw blanks in their head as they try to understand why they feel like they do around you. Not surprisingly, this can lead to an event where the person doesn’t want to believe this and shields themselves form this ‘new-you’. Understand that some people who know you just won’t ever change their view on you as if it were set in stone and that sometimes you just have to move on and keep interacting with new people 🙂

_All phero guru aside_,  
Around your girl, I would start small. 1 spray Ammo _&/or_ 1-2 sprays IH, That’s it. Try that out for a few days around her, if you don’t notice Anything, even negative reactions, up the doses of one of the products. You can easily scare your SO, significant other, by with too much product of any kind. As I described above.  
She’s young, and often young girls (\<25) can be intimidated by too much -none. You shouldn’t have to worry though since Ammo (+IH) has enough buffers in it, at least for 1 spray.

Be prepared to answer to the question, “What cologne are you wearing” when wearing Ammo. You can either make something up or say the name of the cologne it’s modeled after, Creed’s Green Irish Tweed. FF21’s strong potent scent will make sure are noticed for sure. It leaves a nice whispy trail for others to follow and can easily know it’s coming from you. I myself was embarassed the first few days wearing it at work cause it was so damn strong of a scent, but I’ve learned it’s what a lot of women like and shows just how manly you are with such a scent 😃

Leave P83 out till your SO is more comfortable with your phero signature. If you don’t plan on getting physical or pushing the boundaries anytime soon, don’t waste money on getting it. It’s a nice product to have, but not a necessity. For public use, it can be okay, but again, it’s not something you could wear by itself and be amazed more than something like Ammo/Consumer line could provide.

Being 19 as we both are, I’ve had very nice success with Ammo as a stand alone (especially with older women and co-workers Lol). I myself have Ammo, IS, and P83 (15mcg/spray). Ammo & Is together, being the most popular combo to use, has been well for me. Around work, I don’t ever use more than 3 sprays. Ammo’s very strong scent can be overbearing for most if not given the correct amount of time to die down. I give my Ammo (@ 2 sprays) at least 15-20 mins to dry down before going to somewhere. I learned my lesson the hardway when 2 of my female co-workers said I smelled too strong and it hurt their nose. Just the day before they said they loved my same cologne. So I got cocky and put on too much too fast.

I’m going to say, out of the 8 times testing Ammo in my college’s library, I’ve had every single girl I sat next to keep stealing glances at me the moment I sit down to a few minutes later. Even had an older girl (early 20s) ask me if I knew what time it is. This is while she was o nher phone texting and in front of a computer herself. Other products havn’t really done this for me and I believe it’s because of the rad FF21 Ammo rocks and I love it. Stays on for a long time as well (3+ hours for me) could be a bad or good thing on how you look at it. Forgot to mention it’s kind of hard to scrub off the scent too Lol.  
If you want you can search my journal and plop on by. It took me 3 days or so using just Ammo till I got the biggest hit of my phero use so far and I don’t think I’ll have one the same ever again at work Lol.

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**Author:** ![jcarcel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@jcarcel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jcarcel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/6 "2014-03-10T20:16:39Z")

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> [@XyzN](#):
>
> You don’t need a lot of pheros to get an effect. There’s people who mix 5, 6+ products expecting an effect, which often they do, but it’s not one most desirable. (Not saying yours is this, and actually seems pretty okay with right doses) The effect you want to achieve can sometimes be gotten with just 1 or 2 products most of the time. Every product you wear together, you lessen the strength of, which with enough products becomes a ghosting state. You send too many phero messages out there and people get confused and/or irritated by the headache you give them.(Not to mention the smell at that point you could be giving off) Also when mixing, you should take care because of the ratios you are changing within the product. Effectively making the mix a whole kind of somethin new. Usually you see this type of reporting with products that are low in the amount of different phero molecules in them(like IH is only 2 molecules + maybe secret stuff). Single mixing is how you basically make your own mixes and blends. ex, androstenone + Alpha Nols
> 
> ironically on what I just said and since your new to mones, enjoy a phero baptism. Meaning go all out with your pheros the first time or few times out, but only till you notice an effect of any kind. This helps you become a believer in that pheros do work and that they can be both an improvement and hindrance to your life. After you are now believing in pheros, it’s time to sweet spot test, see what works for you, and save money in the long run by not wasting product.
> 
> putatives and singles for a new user, not exactly the best route to take when just starting out your phero journey. Familiarize yourself with a consumer line product(s) first, usually more easier to use and get effects from.
> 
> idk if this is your first time using pheros? If it is, dont do a baptism around someone(s) you really care about. It can sometimes end ugly lol. If it is, then I would start small.
> 
> To use your very very potent combo in front of someone who knows you already, may draw blanks in their head as they try to understand why they feel like they do around you. Not surprisingly, this can lead to an event where the person doesn’t want to believe this and shields themselves form this ‘new-you’. Understand that some people who know you just won’t ever change their view on you as if it were set in stone and that sometimes you just have to move on and keep interacting with new people 🙂
> 
> _All phero guru aside_,  
> Around your girl, I would start small. 1 spray Ammo _&/or_ 1-2 sprays IH, That’s it. Try that out for a few days around her, if you don’t notice Anything, even negative reactions, up the doses of one of the products. You can easily scare your SO, significant other, by with too much product of any kind. As I described above.  
> She’s young, and often young girls (\<25) can be intimidated by too much -none. You shouldn’t have to worry though since Ammo (+IH) has enough buffers in it, at least for 1 spray.
> 
> Be prepared to answer to the question, “What cologne are you wearing” when wearing Ammo. You can either make something up or say the name of the cologne it’s modeled after, Creed’s Green Irish Tweed. FF21’s strong potent scent will make sure are noticed for sure. It leaves a nice whispy trail for others to follow and can easily know it’s coming from you. I myself was embarassed the first few days wearing it at work cause it was so damn strong of a scent, but I’ve learned it’s what a lot of women like and shows just how manly you are with such a scent 😃
> 
> Leave P83 out till your SO is more comfortable with your phero signature. If you don’t plan on getting physical or pushing the boundaries anytime soon, don’t waste money on getting it. It’s a nice product to have, but not a necessity. For public use, it can be okay, but again, it’s not something you could wear by itself and be amazed more than something like Ammo/Consumer line could provide.
> 
> Being 19 as we both are, I’ve had very nice success with Ammo as a stand alone (especially with older women and co-workers Lol). I myself have Ammo, IS, and P83 (15mcg/spray). Ammo & Is together, being the most popular combo to use, has been well for me. Around work, I don’t ever use more than 3 sprays. Ammo’s very strong scent can be overbearing for most if not given the correct amount of time to die down. I give my Ammo (@ 2 sprays) at least 15-20 mins to dry down before going to somewhere. I learned my lesson the hardway when 2 of my female co-workers said I smelled too strong and it hurt their nose. Just the day before they said they loved my same cologne. So I got cocky and put on too much too fast.
> 
> I’m going to say, out of the 8 times testing Ammo in my college’s library, I’ve had every single girl I sat next to keep stealing glances at me the moment I sit down to a few minutes later. Even had an older girl (early 20s) ask me if I knew what time it is. This is while she was o nher phone texting and in front of a computer herself. Other products havn’t really done this for me and I believe it’s because of the rad FF21 Ammo rocks and I love it. Stays on for a long time as well (3+ hours for me) could be a bad or good thing on how you look at it. Forgot to mention it’s kind of hard to scrub off the scent too Lol.  
> If you want you can search my journal and plop on by. It took me 3 days or so using just Ammo till I got the biggest hit of my phero use so far and I don’t think I’ll have one the same ever again at work Lol.

Its nice finding other younger members on this forum, your advice has been a great learning thing for me as I am a fan of throwing it all on. I think a couple days spraying on ammo will be good for me. I tried tuth around my girlfriend(year yonger) and she was irritable and easily made mad were as earlier before a shower I had ghosting of ammo on and she just couldn’t let go of me. I may return my tuth as it hasnt proven useful nor do I think it will as I am not looking to pick up older women. What are your suggestions on IG with ammo and as a standalone maybe with IS or IO.

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**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/7 "2014-03-10T20:45:15Z")

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> [@Ammo and IG: does IG contain androsterone, and could using both cause an OD?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-and-ig-does-ig-contain-androsterone-and-could-using-both-cause-an-od/61050/4):
>
> Ammo/IG is a good combo - Remember that the steering in IG is light/social/youthful, so its a good smart/dashing status feel as opposed to A314’s maturity and solidity.  
> And yes, you can OD on rone - Which tends to be a boring/funky-uncle type vibe but you don’t get that with IG - or not in any sensible dose.  
> In fact I took Ammo (2 of 2X)/IG (3) out just recently and the solid hits over a wide age range that came thick and fast the whole afternoon reminded me just how useful this oft-overlooked combo can be.
> 
> Still, a couple of sprays IS can be very useful in there

quote from a member on it. As mobo said, it will give you a more mature vibe cause of the extra -rones you are putting on.

If we are going to talk about the younger female population, they aren’t so keen on settling down and getting serious. That’s something they think about usually as they grow older. Course there are exceptions.

Another quote I like to share from thegentleman he shared with me:

> [@thegentleman](#):
>
> You’re 19, and you’re dealing with young women who can be easily intimidated…believe me I’m 46 and the oldest girl I’ve dated in the last 5 years was 30, my current girlfriend is 22 and we’ve been seeing each other off and on since she was 20.
> 
> I have tons of experience with that age group. At 46, me coming across as a bit more sophisticated and serious with a young woman is different than if I were 19. The women I date are looking for a mature man, and have grown tired of “boys.”  
> At 19, employers aren’t going to see you as “the man.” Sorry to say that, its just true. We will take you only as serious as we wish to, no matter what you wear and if your behavior says just the opposite of the mature signature that whatever phero blend you wear says, then we will see it as an integrity issue.
> 
> _Women your age want a guy with lots of energy, someone who is fun, has big lofty dreams and is on his way to becoming that man. When they think of the value that you bring to a relationship, they think in terms of the experience you’re going to give them. So wear something that makes them feel upbeat, and create positive emotional experiences with them that they will feel they can’t get elsewhere._

If you hadn’t bought anything before I saw this post, I would of just recommended Ammo and IS.

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**Author:** ![jcarcel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@jcarcel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jcarcel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/8 "2014-03-10T21:22:14Z")

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Im really considering returning the TUTH and IG then, I have no desire to get a relationship, our relationship is an open one so I want things that say lets sleep together, or appear sturdy etc etc my personality alone can do that and the tuth just made my girlfriend angry she liked ammo alot more on me so if anything I may get IH and another thing of AMMO maybe mx297 if I can manage it. Thank goodness for AD’s fantastic return policy they are the best especially for figuring out what you need.

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**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/9 "2014-03-10T22:00:00Z")

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If you havn’t already purchased a social, I would get IS instead of IH. IS creates a more fun, upbeat vibe than IH does. IH could make things more intimate, but it can create a field of “serious-ness” considering it has b-nols in it. It’s what causes people to trust you with their more dark secrets and personal info about their lives. (if that’s what you’d rather have) IH is also a lot more expensive if you want the 30ml x.x

If you can afford IH, go ahead, but IS is a just as worthy contender as a social if you want to save some money.

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**Author:** ![jcarcel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@jcarcel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jcarcel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/10 "2014-03-10T23:10:47Z")

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> [@XyzN](#):
>
> If you havn’t already purchased a social, I would get IS instead of IH. IS creates a more fun, upbeat vibe than IH does. IH could make things more intimate, but it can create a field of “serious-ness” considering it has b-nols in it. It’s what causes people to trust you with their more dark secrets and personal info about their lives. (if that’s what you’d rather have) IH is also a lot more expensive if you want the 30ml x.x
> 
> If you can afford IH, go ahead, but IS is a just as worthy contender as a social if you want to save some money.

I have been getting the togo sizes as I am in college I wanted to get a well rounded sample and go from there I have IO IShine AMMO TUTH IG and a free sample of TAC. I defiantly am going to save my money and get the 30ml sizes of AMMO and IShine, I am still figuring out IO if I like enough to invest in it like that but defiantly not gonna use tuth or IG just got those to try.

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**Author:** ![jayjayshie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jayjayshie/32/2165_2.png) [@jayjayshie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayjayshie)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/11 "2014-03-12T02:58:33Z")

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I’m new to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), but my first stack is IS and Ammo. I used 1 spray of each and went out to a date.

I’d say the IS made things very upbeat and social. I had no problem making her talk up a storm, but I don’t think I used enough Ammo.

Things were very social, but there was not enough sexual undertone, but overall I would suggest it due to it making things very comfortable.

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**Author:** ![hmero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a87d85/32.png) [@hmero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hmero)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/12 "2014-03-12T15:07:42Z")

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So yesterday was interesting. IH is…dangerous haha. My mom and I had the best of talks about psychology and its something we rarely ever do. Heck she even admitted that she still can’t believe I’m going off to boot camp soon soooo she’s taking me on a cruise.

Okay, as for my dose yesterday, I didn’t OD but I knew I used too much. 3 shots of ammo, both sides of the neck and chest and 3 shots of IH. I really need to invest in a bottle of IS so that I won’t have “lapses” where my fun drive burns out.

Now I got a bunch of stares and people talking to me just cause on my train ride. When I got to my hangout spot, a guy friend of mine with a really sensitive nose seemed to be affected by the ammo in the sense that he respected me to the point of wanting to punch me. We ended up sparring cause of it.

Now as for my girl, I don’t know how to explain it but she loved my smell but was obviously uncomfortable at the same time. She started exhibiting a bunch of IoI’s but only when she figured I wasn’t paying attention. (I had a buddy to watch her for me).

We had constant hair playing, prolonged staring, dilated pupils. When I was sparring, she literally only looked at me. Then on the train ride home, I attacked one of her weak spots with my mouth. Normally…normally I’d of got punched repeatedly and she’d be pissed. This time, we laughed about it despite her whole face being red. After observing a recording I had someone take, she shifted her legs so much and yes, she was wet. It’s funny because after she said, “Hmero just smells like…hmero”

Hmm there was also one point where she unconsciously reached out for my hand. I called her out on it and she didn’t even realize it herself.

I’d say I had an interesting day

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**Author:** ![jcarcel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@jcarcel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jcarcel)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/13 "2014-03-12T21:24:22Z")

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> [@hmero](#):
>
> So yesterday was interesting. IH is…dangerous haha. My mom and I had the best of talks about psychology and its something we rarely ever do. Heck she even admitted that she still can’t believe I’m going off to boot camp soon soooo she’s taking me on a cruise.
> 
> Okay, as for my dose yesterday, I didn’t OD but I knew I used too much. 3 shots of ammo, both sides of the neck and chest and 3 shots of IH. I really need to invest in a bottle of IS so that I won’t have “lapses” where my fun drive burns out.
> 
> Now I got a bunch of stares and people talking to me just cause on my train ride. When I got to my hangout spot, a guy friend of mine with a really sensitive nose seemed to be affected by the ammo in the sense that he respected me to the point of wanting to punch me. We ended up sparring cause of it.
> 
> Now as for my girl, I don’t know how to explain it but she loved my smell but was obviously uncomfortable at the same time. She started exhibiting a bunch of IoI’s but only when she figured I wasn’t paying attention. (I had a buddy to watch her for me).
> 
> We had constant hair playing, prolonged staring, dilated pupils. When I was sparring, she literally only looked at me. Then on the train ride home, I attacked one of her weak spots with my mouth. Normally…normally I’d of got punched repeatedly and she’d be pissed. This time, we laughed about it despite her whole face being red. After observing a recording I had someone take, she shifted her legs so much and yes, she was wet. It’s funny because after she said, “Hmero just smells like…hmero”
> 
> Hmm there was also one point where she unconsciously reached out for my hand. I called her out on it and she didn’t even realize it herself.
> 
> I’d say I had an interesting day

I tend to wear 3 sprays of ammo myself as well and my girlfriend reacts crazy to it and loves it the same way your talking about, I am going to try 3 sprays around her with some TAC that should do the trick for her being uncomfortable so I will report back on that which may be very fun. And when wearing ammo around my girlfriend she hates it right after i put it on cause the scent is strong but after 20 30 mins she cant take her hands off its perfect, tuth seems to be to strong so I need to try that with TAC and IS also.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/14 "2014-03-13T18:19:37Z")

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The none content per spray of TUTH is the same as Ammo, so its not exactly stronger - more that the steering/moderation differs, so If you are finding TUTH too much on its own, try it with some IO as well as IS/TAC - IO is a good one to help knock the rough edges off around younger women.

IH/IS is another good moderator for TUTH but its maybe a slightly older feel.

Another thing to do is try one spray of Ammo and one spray of TUTH - This doubles the none proportion but still retains some good moderation plus some discrete sexual steering - It can help you avoid using too much Ammo.

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**Author:** ![jcarcel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@jcarcel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jcarcel)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/15 "2014-03-15T14:16:55Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
>
> The none content per spray of TUTH is the same as Ammo, so its not exactly stronger - more that the steering/moderation differs, so If you are finding TUTH too much on its own, try it with some IO as well as IS/TAC - IO is a good one to help knock the rough edges off around younger women.
> 
> IH/IS is another good moderator for TUTH but its maybe a slightly older feel.
> 
> Another thing to do is try one spray of Ammo and one spray of TUTH - This doubles the none proportion but still retains some good moderation plus some discrete sexual steering - It can help you avoid using too much Ammo.

I tried the Ammo /Tuth and added two sprays TAC and my girlfriend was unable to let go and wanted to get down but she was about to see her parents so she was very conflicted haha

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/16 "2014-03-15T17:42:03Z")

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Good work! 😃

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**Author:** ![jcarcel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@jcarcel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jcarcel)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/17 "2014-03-15T18:16:08Z")

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Out of curiosity does any one have any speculations on what the actual chemical is in TAC?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-combination/61343/18 "2014-03-15T18:42:55Z")

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There are but not I think on this board! 😉