# Ammo effects on guys? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 13, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-effects-on-guys/34800 "2009-12-13T04:19:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-effects-on-guys/34800/1 "2009-12-13T04:19:40Z")
So my favorite basic mix so far is 2 ammo and 3 cttm2. Around girls in college it’s worked great. They seem to be really into the conversations and somewhat more into me sexually than usual. When I walk past guys in the halls they all give me clear respect and get out of my way or nod at me. But when I talk to guys I can’t quite establish what they are thinking? The cttm2 helps get conversations started and maintained. But are they intimidated or just think I’m a cool guy? What are the main effects that ammo gives off to guys in conversation? These are guys I’ve met before but don’t know very well. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-effects-on-guys/34800/2 "2009-12-13T04:55:54Z")
It’s got -none and -rone in it, so you have the respect factor from -rone and the “manly” presence from -none. I can’t remember what I wore at the time, but I was at a club once with quite a bit of -none on with some -nol balance. I can’t remember if I had any IG on for -rone. Anyways, I noticed guys were literally moving out of my way and nodding as they did it. When they walked past me, they would excuse themselves and 1 guy apologized like 5 times for having to walk past me. One guy even asked me if it was okay if he had a cigarrette near me. Unfortunately, I didn’t notice much from women because I think I had too much -none on for their taste, but guys definitely reacted to it. ---
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-effects-on-guys/34800/3 "2009-12-13T05:12:26Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > It’s got -none and -rone in it, so you have the respect factor from -rone and the “manly” presence from -none. I can’t remember what I wore at the time, but I was at a club once with quite a bit of -none on with some -nol balance. I can’t remember if I had any IG on for -rone. Anyways, I noticed guys were literally moving out of my way and nodding as they did it. When they walked past me, they would excuse themselves and 1 guy apologized like 5 times for having to walk past me. One guy even asked me if it was okay if he had a cigarrette near me. Unfortunately, I didn’t notice much from women because I think I had too much -none on for their taste, but guys definitely reacted to it. thanks for breaking down what’s in it, that makes a lot of sense. I’m also curious about interaction with guys. I’ve had a lot of them moving out of the way and apologizing also, but little in the way of talking. But I need to have conversations with guys in addition to the girls in a day setting (not at a club) and am worried the ammo is a bit too intimidating to them. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-effects-on-guys/34800/4 "2009-12-13T05:17:15Z")
> [@conundrum12](#): > > thanks for breaking down what’s in it, that makes a lot of sense. I’m also curious about interaction with guys. I’ve had a lot of them moving out of the way and apologizing also, but little in the way of talking. But I need to have conversations with guys in addition to the girls in a day setting (not at a club) and am worried the ammo is a bit too intimidating to them. More alpha -nol should help get the conversation flowing. IO could help with that. As far as the intimidation factor, just use less AMMO if you think it’s a problem. Because you are using CTTM, you may not need the IO, so try something like 1 AMMO and 2 CTTM and see what happens.