# Ammo - I was a hater but now... I like it !! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 17, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518 "2010-01-17T05:11:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![denigro153](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denigro153/32/772_2.png) [@denigro153](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denigro153)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/1 "2010-01-17T05:11:12Z")
location - walmart, san antonio tx time - 3o minutes ago lol sprays - 4 ( chest neck and wrists ) alot more then i would normally which is usually 2 ok so im probably the biggest trash talker when it comes to ammo, this is not because i have some secret mission to sabotage it… no sir. I held ammo in such disgust for so long BECAUSE i love all the other products and it thoroughly annoyed me that I wasnt getting the same results as others on this beautiful forum lol I first tried it about a year and a half ago, and man did i hate it, it was the only product that women literally told me i stunk with statements like; you smell like the forest still plague me to this day and i got similar responses to that practically every time i used it intill it was empty. and the part that thoroughly annoyed me was that i would get such consistant fantastic responses from all the other products here. such as tuth which I think Im falling in love with more and more each day lol but on with the story … i stoppedd ordering ammo with my other products untill 2 weeks ago when it became available again, and i read some where on here that the scent had changed so i thought what the hell i love all the other products maybe i should give it another chance … so i ordered it along with 5 others and when it arrived i grabbed it first with anticipation and unscrewed the cap and immediately felt duped again …this time actually a lil angry thinking now this one smells like citrus like oranges or something. so i threw it to the back of the drawer and experimented instead with my first ever batch of a314 which i LOVE by the way. so up intill today i have been relying on my old favorites cttm, TUTH LOVE IT, IS, IJ, and a314 and others like p83 which is also good but i left ammo to sit… punishing it in a way lol for not smelling out of the bottle to my liking…which i admit …yes it was not quite fair but i didnt care it had blown to many sets for me in the past … but tonight i saw it sitting there …looking mistreated lol and i thought …fine u have one last chance ammo and its not at the bar o no its the store for u and u better impress me lol… so off i went to walmart to get a couple notebooks, wearing scrubbed out clothes so to speak…which is also a key point here because through studying social dynamics more then eating or sleeping i realized among other things certain clothes will get more consistant visual iois right off the bat compared to other clothes its a value deferenchal that wont make or break a pick up but will drastically changed the amount of on site iois u recieve… basically when im dressed nice i get attention when im not i dont… but can still pickup which is a key point … so i walk in and then i get about 200 feet in the store and relize i forgot something in the car so i walk back out ( walking past the exact same people that were NOT giving me any iois appawn entering), i get to the car and come back and every single girl my age and younger were looking at me smiling lol ( and im like no way …ammo?) lol but im still skeptical so i continue with what i need to get but im getting to my ile and this real cute chick walks past me with her cart very clearly at a pace that subcommunicated im done shopping i want to hurry out of the store …but her entire facial expression changed when we crossed to a look of confusion and then to happiness and she looked at me confirming i was the source… and smiled and her pace slowed as we crossed and i just smiled to myself… so i get to the ile and the notebooks and i begin searching for my choice and bam within 10 seconds shes coming through my ile lol and im thinking ammo i under estimated you lol …so at this point she comes in and then blantantly gives me proximity and turns her back to me and starts looking at white poster board lmao so im trying not to laugh at this point but im lookin at her cart and there was nothing in there but cosmetics lol so i know shes givin me proximity lol so i get what i need and leave the ile then i walked around for a bit because i actually like to pick them up at the checkout ile for multiple reasons 1it limits chit chat 2u usually walk with them out and at that point i go for an instant date and suggest going to eat some where 3 it forces u to speed up ur game ( no awkward pauses) while in the regular ile its way to easy to come off desperate if the conversation steers south theres nothing timing u…and i have found u get alot better when u set a clock on yourself when it comes to day game but ne ways i waited for her to check out by walking around for a minute and even then women kept smiling at me it was the exact same reaction i will usually get with cttm and tuth at the bar .. but i went to the check out ile she was in and gamed her …just opening with… hi lol alot of newbies want all these fancy openers but honestly ive opened more sets with hi and hey then most would believe its simple and works… but when i said it she had a face that confirmed for me that i was previously getting proximity… her face lit up and she said …Hi lol high pitched like i was an old friend …then i gamed her as normal and the entire time she kept scratching her hand and tossing her hair from one side then to the other lol then i get her number and she leaves and i felt the need to sit and do a mental recap lol as i was sitting 3 girls decide to stop about 3 feet from the bench im using and start talking about what they just bought then one looks at me and then turns away then another girl comes bringing the cart over to me and says verbatum - my friend wants to know what u have on (we) think it smells really good … and when ever i get asked this when i have on tuth i say - nothing its my natural scent which always makes me laugh but the girl is like…REALLY …and at this point im holding back laughter and im like yea lol and i say so why didnt she come ask me with a smirk…and she says o shes shy…and i say o thats to bad i thought there was another reason…and we stare at each other a sec and she says im kate …i say im elliot and she says ooo i love that name…and i say yea me 2 my mom made a good choice right and smile…but then i did a false time constraint and said u know im curious about u but i really need to get out of here…and then i get up and she literally grabbs my hand which is a rare form of ioi from a woman u just met and says we should hang out and then she looks in her purse grabs my hand again and writes down her number … and the entire way out of walmart …im thinking wow this new ammos some badass stuff …i under estimated it. im so impressed with it i typed all this out from my cell i couldnt even wait !! ammo finally came through with A+ results more tests to come but after this im optimistic ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/2 "2010-01-17T05:31:41Z")
Hopefully its released again soon 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nightisthenewday/32/2148_2.png) [@NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NIGHTistheNEWDAY)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/3 "2010-01-17T05:47:38Z")
Ammo is really growing on me, I’m probably going to start using it as a base for all my mixes. Been using it with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and CTTM2, with excellent results. I went out to eat tonight on a “semi-date” and purposely sat next to a table with 3 women who were looking at me from the corner of their eyes the entire meal. That was with 2 sprays of AMMO to the chest, 2 sprays of Instant Shine to the hair and 2 sprays of CTTM2 to the wrists. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/4 "2010-01-17T14:38:13Z")
Your experiences with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) seem to mirror my own. The old Game scent that seemed to work so well for others didn’t do anything for me. I was told I smelled like sour oranges once while wearing Game scent. Not to mention that I couldn’t catch a cold with it. The FF21 (sounds like that is the one you have) scent reminds me of Green Irish Tweed cologne and I get TONS of interest with that one. Same with the FF22 scent (reminds me of Silver Mountain Water). Both give me great hits. Have fun with your new friend, Ammo! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/5 "2010-01-17T15:14:56Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > The FF21 (sounds like that is the one you have) scent reminds me of Green Irish Tweed cologne and I get TONS of interest with that one. Same with the FF22 scent (reminds me of Silver Mountain Water). Both give me great hits. Have fun with your new friend, Ammo! 🙂 No he bought the FF20 if it was the one released about a month ago. 🙂 genius work my man you just influenced me to go out and test this stuff today. Fantastic report bro. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/6 "2010-01-17T15:37:36Z")
Excellent report. And all typed on a cell phone?! Now that’s dedication 🙂. I’m not very fond of the FF scents and they tend to give me a headache, but I’ve read a few reports that the headaches stop after using it a few times. I think I need to grab a bottle of it next time it’s available. It seems to be the most consistent [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for more users, but I’ve been neglecting it. I still have a bit of original AMMO in a to-go, maybe 10 sprays worth. I guess I’ve been saving it for the right occasion lol. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/7 "2010-01-17T15:42:06Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > No he bought the FF20 if it was the one released about a month ago. 🙂 > > genius work my man you just influenced me to go out and test this stuff today. Fantastic report bro. Woops, I forgot he wrote he’d only gotten it about 2 weeks ago. It was the citrus description that threw me. I didn’t get anything citrus from FF20. Whatever, as long as it works! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/8 "2010-01-17T15:53:52Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Woops, I forgot he wrote he’d only gotten it about 2 weeks ago. It was the citrus description that threw me. I didn’t get anything citrus from FF20. Whatever, as long as it works! 😃 I don’t get anything citrus from it either. Smells more like forest to me lol ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/9 "2010-01-17T15:57:48Z")
denigro \> Ammo --------- denigro + Ammo = Earth shattering win =P ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/10 "2010-01-17T16:03:08Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > denigro \> Ammo --------- denigro + Ammo = Earth shattering win =P Yeah, there ya go! Ammo = strange women following you around. 🙂 To me, FF20 reminds me of Azzaro which I wore in high school. Used to get a lot of positive attention from it from the women. ---
**Author:** ![denigro153](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denigro153/32/772_2.png) [@denigro153](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denigro153)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/11 "2010-01-17T18:45:04Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Your experiences with Ammo seem to mirror my own. The old Game scent that seemed to work so well for others didn’t do anything for me. I was told I smelled like sour oranges once while wearing Game scent. Not to mention that I couldn’t catch a cold with it. > > The FF21 (sounds like that is the one you have) scent reminds me of Green Irish Tweed cologne and I get TONS of interest with that one. Same with the FF22 scent (reminds me of Silver Mountain Water). Both give me great hits. Have fun with your new friend, Ammo! 🙂 > [@allstarmvp256](#): > > No he bought the FF20 if it was the one released about a month ago. 🙂 > > genius work my man you just influenced me to go out and test this stuff today. Fantastic report bro. i have no idea which FF I have this is whats on the bottom of the bottle… version 1.9 batch #212 bottled 12/ 21/ 09 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/12 "2010-01-17T18:51:21Z")
> [@denigro153](#): > > i have no idea which FF I have this is whats on the bottom of the bottle… > > version 1.9 > batch #212 > bottled 12/ 21/ 09 That’d be FF20 scent. (Just so you know). As long as it works, that is the important thing! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/13 "2010-01-17T19:13:28Z")
Definatly ff20,my bottle reads the same thing ---
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/14 "2010-01-17T19:51:34Z")
Wow, very nice. I have ff22 scent. I have been too scared of od if I spray more than 2. Perhaps I’ll test out morethan 3 today. Thanks. You’ve inspired me to test mine out again. I haven’t worn it in awhile. If I may ask, how old are you? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![denigro153](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denigro153/32/772_2.png) [@denigro153](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denigro153)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-i-was-a-hater-but-now-i-like-it/35518/15 "2010-01-17T20:30:13Z")
> [@apexi1100](#): > > Wow, very nice. I have ff22 scent. I have been too scared of od if I spray more than 2. Perhaps I’ll test out morethan 3 today. Thanks. You’ve inspired me to test mine out again. I haven’t worn it in awhile. If I may ask, how old are you? Thanks I’m 23 yea its kinda sneaky because i could hardly smell it on me when i first sprayed it on, but as i was driving there, it was really pungent lol …Ill keep it at 3 from now on I think… 1 to wrists 1 to back of neck 1 to chest that might be to much on a hot day but ill soon find out lol …but i could definately smell myself at walmart with 4 sprays which oddly gave me nothing but positive attention and im very technical when it comes to body language and i was recieving absolutely no iods when people were in my facinaty some looks of shock or confusion from some but thoughs facial expressions changed to them looking pleased by whatever the scent was almost immedietely they had a " what is that " look of shock then they would start smiling immedietly lol so i believe it was a very border line overdose or maybe it was the perfect amount depending on how u want to view it. I view overdosing as that look of shock then them giving blantant iods where they move away from u either immedietly or gradually and avoid eye contact… so i got the look of shock but no iods followed only iois and they were very open ones at that…