# Ammo & IG at a wine bar: a new bartender kept coming back to me **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 27, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551 "2011-03-27T06:55:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/1 "2011-03-27T06:55:14Z")
Okay, so not much going on really. I decide late that I’ll go across the street to grab some food & some wine. I spray 2 of IG and 2 of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)(x2) I sit down at the wine bar…order some food and wine. A girl behind the bar serves me. Now I’ve been away for 3 months, but something about her just screams that she’s new. So I say…You’re new aren’t you…she say..is it that obvious? I say…yeah I can tell…She says Yeah it’s my 2nd day but Ive been bartending for years now…I say, well I can still see that you’re new here So time passes…I tease her a bit more…she keeps coming around me even though I have a full glass and we looks in my direction. So I’m thinking okay…thanks AMMO. …as the night progresses we talk amore about different thing…learn that shes mixed race, french, german, spansih …and that she’s 25. towrads the end I say I’m playing a show Apr 17…you should come…she days yeah for sure…I say okay, right down your info…the I get get cocky and say…right down your name…time of birth, birthday, phone #…email, and favorte color…along with your favorite author…hhaha…BUT SHE DOES RIGHT THEM ALL DOWN???..so Im thinking..damn either Im fucking brilliant or Ammo rocks. Anywa, i get home and look her up on face book. SHES ENGAGED…what? YES!..engaged to be married.😮 What the fuck…i was fucking smooth as butter and she ate it up giving me her real phone # email…etc. So now I’m confused…I facebooked her saying…you’re engaged? I guess we’ll see. …not that i was expecting much but…to me a women who was engaged to give her phone # plus so much more out to a stranger seems odd. …idk What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/2 "2011-03-27T09:32:57Z")
You rock!!! But I’d keep it just as friends. Did she have a ring on her finger? ODG ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/3 "2011-03-27T15:08:11Z")
> [@Onedzguy](#): > > You rock!!! But I’d keep it just as friends. Did she have a ring on her finger? > > ODG She had a ring, but not an engagement ring…although now that I think of it I should have just asked. Looked like just a ring anyone would wear…:o Oh well, I had 4 glasses of wine so I was a bit spritzed. 😃 I’ll say this to add to the report. When I st walked into the bar, I got a few or so good long looks from some hot women, older hot 34-37 now that I think about it sober. I also noticed I got respect from males, but not quite like when I wear A314…but that goes without saying really. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/4 "2011-03-27T16:29:28Z")
Is it possible the facebook thing is a shite test to filter out the AFCs? ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/5 "2011-03-27T17:27:59Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Is it possible the facebook thing is a shite test to filter out the AFCs? @renny, i see where you’re coming from…i just thought it strange, she gave me ALL the information exactly as I asked for …exactly on the paper…name ph# color, author, email all the real stuff , …she saw that the owners and I were friends so could be her way of not upseting her situation. since she’s new there…im over it was just a bout of drunken action on my part and over thinking a bit too. Not my best “performance.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lifeisgood7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lifeisgood7/32/1834_2.png) [@lifeisgood7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeisgood7)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/6 "2011-03-27T17:40:00Z")
lol…she wuz feelin ur swag bruh! good report! ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/7 "2011-03-27T18:15:15Z")
in my opinion, one thing that you’ve done unnecessarily, was to enquire about the _“engaged”_ thing. BTW, did she reply? ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/8 "2011-03-27T18:21:03Z")
> [@Marihino](#): > > in my opinion, one thing that you’ve done unnecessarily, was to enquire about the _“engaged”_ thing. BTW, did she reply? you’re spot in…in a drunken my moment and backlash to AFCdom…i did that…no she hasn’t… You know…you’re doing something…and you know better. Yet because you’re drunk you do it anyway? yup. But again I really don’t care if she does…take into account this is a drunken post about mones 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/9 "2011-03-27T18:24:13Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > You know…you’re doing something…and you know better. Yet because you’re drunk you do it anyway? yup. Oh yeah. Last night 🙂 And I even remember myself thinking _"f_ck, I’m so stupid, I only do it 'cause I’m drunk, I’d never do it otherwise and I’m sure I’m gonna regret tomorrow". \* Done anyway 😃 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/10 "2011-03-27T18:35:19Z")
Let this be a lesson for all you kids out there…AFC and Alpha is a behavior. You can choose to do AFC behaviors…or choose Alpha Behaviors…and if you’re drunk…you might be doing them both at the same time and confusing the shit outta the girl. DONT DO WHAT I DID LAST NIGHT…do what I did in [THIS NIGHT](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/laid-again-thanks-mx297/40790)…and [THIS ONE](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-a1-is-a314-scored/40011). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lifeisgood7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lifeisgood7/32/1834_2.png) [@lifeisgood7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeisgood7)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/11 "2011-03-27T20:11:24Z")
so true. go hard or go home. keep the reports coming! I havent found any good conclusive reports abt IG/Ammo (waitin for my ammo to come through). u think its worth trying? ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/12 "2011-03-28T04:43:01Z")
> [@josephforbes777](#): > > so true. go hard or go home. > > keep the reports coming! I havent found any good conclusive reports abt IG/Ammo (waitin for my ammo to come through). > > u think its worth trying? Ammo worth trying? hell yeah..very much worth it. Although i don’t know the smell now…mine is a beautiful irish spring soap smell…i absolutly ADORE it, love it better than any of the smell AD offers…ff21 i think?..but yeah tyr AMMO then IG alone…and then together ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/13 "2011-03-28T06:23:27Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > Let this be a lesson for all you kids out there…AFC and Alpha is a behavior. You can choose to do AFC behaviors…or choose Alpha Behaviors…and if you’re drunk…you might be doing them both at the same time and confusing the shit outta the girl. > > DONT DO WHAT I DID LAST NIGHT…do what I did in [THIS NIGHT](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/laid-again-thanks-mx297/40790)…and [THIS ONE](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-a1-is-a314-scored/40011). > > 🙂 happytappin, Read your report, and I was like 😮😮😮 OMG OMG OMG… 😛 I don’t think a newbie like me could pull it off like you did… P79 ~ ok… something to keep in mind when I found my feet. I must learn to crawl first before I run 😃 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/14 "2011-03-28T06:31:48Z")
> [@little](#): > > happytappin, > > Read your report, and I was like 😮😮😮 OMG OMG OMG… 😛 > I don’t think a newbie like me could pull it off like you did… > > P79 ~ ok… something to keep in mind when I found my feet. I must learn to crawl first before I run 😃 little, thanks…as far as any pickup skills i might or might not have at any given time…i learned from Real Social Dynamics. mones have amped that up about a 75% increase in effectiveness. But because I don’t practice daily, like a person should…i have varying success. But really, i think someone else said it…being a player and pickin up chicks is just a game, and can be a shield or mask to a deeper issue, which if fixed, might get rid of the need to use pickup in the 1st place and just be a straight forward confident man. But I have that Find & Conquer in my evolutionary part of the brain so it’s fun to be able at least succeed once in a while and fullfill that need..but it’s so fleeting…after a while you just don’t have the same craving for it…it’s like Once I get something, I don’t want it anymore… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/15 "2011-03-28T19:23:55Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > So now I’m confused…I facebooked her saying…you’re engaged? > > . …idk What do you think? I think many women will put that they are engaged on FB because there are a lot of creeps out there in the world. Unfortunately you played right into a shit test. Heck I had engaged on my FB for months. Kept the stalkers away. Then I changed it to married, then to open relationship. I think I’m single again. BTW when I was engaged it was either to my wingman or to my friends horse. Gets people thinking if they check. By questioning her status you telegraphed more interest than she invested yet. You might be able to overcome it, but it will be tough. You need to think of witty things if she checks you on it. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/16 "2011-03-28T21:00:15Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I think many women will put that they are engaged on FB because there are a lot of creeps out there in the world. Unfortunately you played right into a shit test. Heck I had engaged on my FB for months. Kept the stalkers away. Then I changed it to married, then to open relationship. I think I’m single again. BTW when I was engaged it was either to my wingman or to my friends horse. Gets people thinking if they check. > > By questioning her status you telegraphed more interest than she invested yet. You might be able to overcome it, but it will be tough. > > You need to think of witty things if she checks you on it. I know right Steve? ..it’s amazing to me after the good amount of experience Ive had that id fall back to an old weakness like that…tsk tsk tsk…live and learn. I havent from her. I’m over it…chalk it up to drunken weakness. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-ig-at-a-wine-bar-a-new-bartender-kept-coming-back-to-me/49551/17 "2011-03-28T22:07:26Z")
You should throw yourself into a lake immediately. Punish yourself