# AMMO/IS/MX297 buffer?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 5, 2016, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-mx297-buffer/65579 "2016-02-05T05:43:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-mx297-buffer/65579/1 "2016-02-05T05:43:01Z")

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So I’m going somewhere where I know there’s gonna be alot of asian girls. I hear AMMO or AMMO/IS doesn’t work around them because of the none. I also heard of people using socials like IG or IO to help to balance the none out. So my question is could I use [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) to help buffer the none?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-mx297-buffer/65579/2 "2016-02-05T11:07:30Z")

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[MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is indeed an excellent social moderator/buffer for None and sexual products.

Personally I don’t feel IS adds a lot to the mix as 297 is an already pleasant/fun/engaging social and more generally, I’ve found it best not to combine too many products in mixes with MX297 as it can be easily upset - esp by Rone, although Ammo is perfectly usable without too much damage to the overall vibe.

Another one to consider is a **small** amount of P75 e.g @2.5mcg alongside MX297 - I’ve repeatedly found this a very good alternative sexual around women who tend not do well with Androstenone. Particularly Asian and very young women.

TUTH or plain-old Androstenone remains my favourite partner for MX297 as it adds a hefty sexual kick for the minimum disturbance of the 297 vibe and MX297 can moderate a hefty dose of it.

Another thing, if you are starting with MX297, stick to just one or two sprays - More than that and you run the risk of it being just too fun/social and nothing more.

And remember to always act congruent with the 297 signature - Laugh, sing, dance and party like there is no-tomorrow! 😃

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**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-mx297-buffer/65579/3 "2016-02-05T15:50:32Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> MX297 is indeed an excellent social moderator/buffer for None and sexual products.
> 
> Personally I don’t feel IS adds a lot to the mix as 297 is an already pleasant/fun/engaging social and more generally, I’ve found it best not to combine too many products in mixes with MX297 as it can be easily upset - esp by Rone, although Ammo is perfectly usable without too much damage to the overall vibe.
> 
> Another one to consider is a **small** amount of P75 e.g @2.5mcg alongside MX297 - I’ve repeatedly found this a very good alternative sexual around women who tend not do well with Androstenone. Particularly Asian and very young women.
> 
> TUTH or plain-old Androstenone remains my favourite partner for MX297 as it adds a hefty sexual kick for the minimum disturbance of the 297 vibe and MX297 can moderate a hefty dose of it.
> 
> Another thing, if you are starting with MX297, stick to just one or two sprays - More than that and you run the risk of it being just too fun/social and nothing more.
> 
> And remember to always act congruent with the 297 signature - Laugh, sing, dance and party like there is no-tomorrow! 😃

Ok cool. I’ll go with the AMMO/[MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) mix. And yeah for now I only have MX297,AMMO,and IS so I’ll have to try that other stuff later(when I have more money lol). But 2 questions:

1.How did you wear your AMMO/MX297 mix? They both have really different smells that seem like they would clash. So how did you wear them together? Or did you even possibly layer them on top of each other?

2.How long did you find it lasting for? This gonna roughly a 10 hour event. And I’ll have to refresh at some point.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-mx297-buffer/65579/4 "2016-02-05T17:10:06Z")

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You wear them just like any phero - Spray, wait till the solvent dries and spray the next layer. Once the mix settles down, the 6% Akuto in [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) will not trouble the much stronger 20% FF21 in Ammo.

I’d suggest topping-up at around the six hour mark - Maybe half of your original dose. That should see you the full ten hours. Or if its hotter/sweatier, have a good freshen-up/wash at around five hours and reapply the full dose.

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**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-mx297-buffer/65579/5 "2016-02-05T21:36:34Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> You wear them just like any phero - Spray, wait till the solvent dries and spray the next layer. Once the mix settles down, the 6% Akuto in MX297 will not trouble the much stronger 20% FF21 in Ammo.
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> I’d suggest topping-up at around the six hour mark - Maybe half of your original dose. That should see you the full ten hours. Or if its hotter/sweatier, have a good freshen-up/wash at around five hours and reapply the full dose.

Alright so I guess it doesn’t matter which mone I apply first then. And the place is gonna be room temperature(probably a little hotter because of all the people in one place). May I asked where you applied though? I’m trying to create a nice bubble around me(I’m assuming neck and wrist/hands but anywhere else?)

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-mx297-buffer/65579/6 "2016-02-05T22:44:06Z")

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Round the neck/throat/upper chest and wrists/forearms, depending on clothing are my main points, yes.

Have a look at the App Point sticky - lots of good ideas there.

But more generally, don’t get too hung-up on app points - that is getting into overthinking territory, which can be detrimental to phero use.

So long as the app point is open to the air and has good circulation to help diffusion, its a viable app point.
