# Ammo/IS/Openness effects on other men? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 17, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-openness-effects-on-other-men/6693 "2007-11-17T04:25:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stupid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@stupid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stupid)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-openness-effects-on-other-men/6693/1 "2007-11-17T04:25:43Z")
So after playing with my pheros the past few weeks I’ve noticed something kind of interesting. I know that A314/IS/openness (or is it honesty?) is a great work mix, but is it possible to substitute ammo for a314? Can the small amount of -none in ammo have similar effects on men as A314? Since I haven’t bought A314 yet (though I plan to when I have the money), I can’t really compare the effects. I ask this question because I’ve noticed that I am getting a lot more respect from almost every male I know whenever I wear the mix described in the thread title. The mix works great with females of course, but it also seems to make males enjoy my company a lot. So much so that the focus almost always shifts entirely over to me and how things can be done to please me or meet my needs. It’s strange really, it’s like I’m unofficially elected as leader of the group in any group I’m in. Sometimes they literally fight for my attention, even if it’s for something stupid like to tell me a joke. Especially strange when you consider that this applies to ANY group, higher or lower status than me. Several times I’ve only just met people and the effects described will occur. In crowded areas if I get bumped or jostled people immediately stop to apologize as vigoriously as possible, almost like they are afraid of what I will do and want to be on my good side. It’s strange because sometimes I won’t have applied anything for well over 6 hours and I will still get these respect “hits” from men. These “residual effects” occur more often with men than women… at least noticeably. At first I couldn’t be sure if I was imagining things or not, but I definitely notice that the focus has shifted to me within all my groups. People in public areas like bars or clubs also seem to want to get close/talk/make unnecessary contact. What are everyone’s thoughts on this? Could it be a good mix, or just my own pheros reacting well with Androtics? An example of what I’ll wear: 1 spray Ammo to chest (1 extra spray to middle of back if I’m going out to bars or clubs) 3 - 4 sprays [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x (chest/front of neck/hair/sometimes back of neck) 3 sprays openness 2x (chest/hair/front or back of neck) I also want to try make a togo mix of this and let it sit and ferment for a while… I know I asked a similar question in another thread, but do you think I would benefit from doing something like that, or am I better off applying separately like I am now? I’m interested in what everyone has to say, thanks for reading! ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-openness-effects-on-other-men/6693/2 "2007-11-17T05:38:30Z")
Thats a nice report, it is probably the none from ammo in ur case instead of being from the a314. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-is-openness-effects-on-other-men/6693/3 "2007-11-17T06:21:09Z")
A314 is mostly androsterone (80%) and contains only a small amount of androstenone along with trace amounts of a dozen or more steering pheromones. Androsterone is highly effective at producing a peaceful alpha vibe, sorta a fatherly authoritative persona. Ammo contains a higher concentration of androstenone, so you’ll likely see more bad-ass vibe depending on your persona and body chemistry. Personally I find Ammo to be an excellent general purpose product as is: well balanced with social, status and sexual pheromones. No IS or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) needed (Ammo already contains the main active pheromones in IS and Instant Openness). Straight outta the bottle it’s perfect for work or social events. Extra IS and androstenol reduce the underlying sexual edge too much for me. Basically makes Ammo wimpy and diluted. If anything, I’d add more androstenone for stronger sensuality and edgy persona. Unfortunately I’m out of Ammo. I really miss it. I’d order more tonight but I figured I’ll wait until Androtics gets settled in their Portland digs and catches up with orders.