# Ammo + MX353 / MX292? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 5, 2010, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353 "2010-05-05T11:40:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stevios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@stevios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stevios)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/1 "2010-05-05T11:40:59Z")
I had what I think was a pretty decent hit with MX353 (new fragrance MX292) and would like to ramp it up a little but not risk alienation. Has anyone used [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and MX292 together? Apparently MX292 has -none and P86 (plus other ingredients, unknown)…would Ammo be over amping the -none do you think? I’m kinda looking for all the positives of Ammo and MX353 in one go but without ruining things 🙂 Or maybe I’ll add some Shine on top of the MX353 and leave it at that…options options options… ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/2 "2010-05-05T12:14:56Z")
Do a 292 **search** … there were people adding a tad bit on -none to it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/3 "2010-05-05T12:19:45Z")
It sounds logical at first to add two good products and hope that the positive results of the products may add up. But think about it this way: You throw 2 mixes together which just means that you change the total ratios of the components… This might work in your favour, if the resulting ratio is better adjusted to your individual phero-signature but it might as well throw the balance off… Even if it worked for someone else (who has a different phero-base level), this doesn’t mean it will work for you… … so the only way to find out is to try it for yourself. btw.what i said above is true especially for throwing together mixes that contain multiple pheros each… so if you want to add other products to MX353, i would recommend to try single pheros like NONE or TAF or whatever, the less complex the better you can judge what has changed and if it enhances or takes away from the original mix (and at least the resulting tendency should be more comparable with others) ---
**Author:** ![stevios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@stevios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stevios)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/4 "2010-05-05T13:44:58Z")
Thanks guys. Don’t know why I didn’t find that in my search before. So I think I’m going to go for 3x MX353 (that was the golden number last time) and 1xTUTH (2.5mcg) and see what happens. But then I’ve had some pretty amazing hits before from an Ammo + IS 4x + A1 combo I mixed up…decisions decisions decisions! ---
**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/5 "2010-05-05T13:57:47Z")
uhm you have A1? have you tried MX353+A1 ? if not maybe you should try this first - it adds another quality to MX353 😉 (instead of just increasing the none it already contains) ---
**Author:** ![stevios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@stevios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stevios)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/6 "2010-05-05T14:02:24Z")
I do have A1…what kind of strength would you say would be good to go with with the MX353? I have had good results from 20 to 60mcg I think. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/7 "2010-05-05T18:39:08Z")
> [@stevios](#): > > I do have A1…what kind of strength would you say would be good to go with with the MX353? I have had good results from 20 to 60mcg I think. 1 or 2 drops. Test it. Really high A1 can weaken the sexual effect or mix it with more none. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/8 "2010-05-05T19:13:43Z")
> [@JohnnyHard](#): > > 1 or 2 drops. Test it. > > **Really high A1 can weaken the sexual effect** or mix it with **more none**. My thoughts/findings as well, JohnnyO! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/9 "2010-05-05T19:30:48Z")
yeah - like the others said - don’t overdo it … i still have some IFM and 2 sprays of it seem to be good FOR ME… that would be around 30mcgs of Androstadienone… as 1 drop of A1 already has 40-45mcg so maybe use 1 drop max or dilute it… ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/10 "2010-05-05T19:47:22Z")
Does anyone know where I can find the threads where -none, and other terminology that everyone else is using? Just a little confusing for a newb ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/11 "2010-05-05T20:23:55Z")
I agree about A-1 over-buffering -none. The best way to look at it is like this. If you wear around 20-25mcgs of A-1 with 2 shots of Ammo you’ll still get great hits, without the -none being over buffered. HOWEVER, if you use about 50mcgs of A-1 you can be much more liberal in the amount of -none you wear so once you hit 50mcgs it’s probably safe to add another spray or two. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/12 "2010-05-05T21:37:19Z")
> [@JaGz120](#): > > Does anyone know where I can find the threads where -none, and other terminology that everyone else is using? Just a little confusing for a newb > [@The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879): > > So many pheros, so many newbs asking the same questions… I’ll break this down in a few different ways. Section one is for high school. two is for work. three is for clubbing. four is miscellany. NOTE: I will only be covering the pre-mixed products on this page, since it is being written for beginners. If you’re new to pheromones, please leave the TA, P, and MX series for later, once you’re a believer that -mones can do all I say they can below. Section one High School Firstly, if you’re unde… > [@Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832): > > Which pheromones do you guys use for each phase of seduction, in terms of something like the Mystery Method or Neil Strauss’ Game? We were thinking something like this: Attraction: IO or Liquid Sunshine + Instant Shine + small amount of TUTH The IO or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath o… > [@What works: CLUBBING/"PROWL" MIXES (eg sex: as in One Night Stands)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-clubbing-prowl-mixes-eg-sex-as-in-one-night-stands/224): > > Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for CLUBBING/“PROWL” MIXES (eg sex: as in One Night Stands) Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. And do what would you think if your mix (or someone elses mix) were turned into a … ---
**Author:** ![celerytree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@celerytree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celerytree)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/13 "2010-05-05T21:46:54Z")
Here’s another great one: > [@Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159): > > Ok. Feel free to correct any errors I may have made. This took forever to write, so I hope you like it. Chapter 1 Alpha Androstenone: In the forum this is commonly referred to as –none or none. It is a hormone produced in men and women’s sweat. (significantly less if women) “Androstenone is the first mammalian pheromone to be identified.” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone)) Androstenone has the ability to cause arousal in women during their ovulation. It also has the ability cause irr… ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-mx353-mx292/38353/14 "2010-05-06T17:38:00Z")
Thanks guys, appreciate it.