# Ammo, negative Self effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 17, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392 "2011-03-17T07:08:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Madshock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Madshock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Madshock)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/1 "2011-03-17T07:08:03Z")
I been trolling abit in the forums but cant seem to find the answer im looking for. ☹ I just got my stash of togos [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), 2x IS, 2x IH and a free of TUTH. On my 1st day of work, i used a spray of Ammo + 1 Spray of IH+ +1 spray of IS… i guess you cant help but try to spray everything on the 1st day! Baptism?haha Nothing special that day, though i THINK i sense something different. In any case, I don’t think i have anything substantial to say on this day. On the 2nd and 3rd day. i did a double up on the dose just to see what will happen. 2 togo sprays each Ammo+IS+IH. To be honest, i didn’t feel my best on Both days! in the morning at work I got pissed over some small issues (which i already knew the issue itself). Not really pleasant days i say. So, is it ME or did the mones had a negative effect on my moods or perception? Oh btw, the spray config is like these: 2nd day. 1 spray of Ammo on each wrist. 2 IH & IS on neck/throat. 3rd day. 1 spray of ammo on each wrist, layered IH over Ammo, IS on neck. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/2 "2011-03-17T07:28:53Z")
Some people can be less tolerant of none, and it can be that you don’t need much to achieve masculinity. I have a European friend that can’t take much ammo or any product with none in it. Makes him irritable and aggressive. In those cases your own signature may be better suited to other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) such as the socials and or IG. Best thing to do for sure is to try everything individually and find your sweet spot. You may find that 1 shot of ammo is enough meanwhile socials such as IS and IH you could have more. Also I may suggest that you use IS as a base as its very universal for all situations. Then depending on if you want a more sexual vibe or more of a bonding vibe, add ammo or IH. Keeping things simple should help! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/3 "2011-03-17T07:54:40Z")
It’s probably just you. However you’ll need to try it at least a few more times to establish a trend. Everybody has a few bad days, mones or no mones. Most of us, even if we felt self-medication effects from initial mone use, soon got accustomed to them and they faded with regular use. I don’t feel a damn thing no matter how much I use. However my targets do and that’s why we wear that stink shit. ---
**Author:** ![Madshock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Madshock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Madshock)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/4 "2011-03-17T15:52:45Z")
Thanks for the opinions!! Ill start finding my sweet spot next week. in the meantime I will try the same thing for 1 more day and see what happens again! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/5 "2011-03-18T00:07:28Z")
It also can depend on your physical fitness, blood type, race, there are lots of variables. Then again you could have just been having a couple off days. There’s to much information missing to really be able to give you an idea yet. Remember the more you can fill us in with information the more we can better guide and help yah 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/6 "2011-03-18T01:03:50Z")
I just put on 4 sprays of ammo heavy and 3 sprays 15 mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and waiting on couger I feel great and my balls feel like their going to explode. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/7 "2011-03-20T22:10:22Z")
I recently thought had a problem with Ammo too. I started getting angry for no reason while wearing it. Actually exploded at some people who I found irritating and was also having troubles with road rage. During this period, I was wearing just one spray of double strength Ammo, so not a lot. Several days prior to all this, I had stopped working out because of a knee injury. It eventually dawned on me that I had a whole lot of pent up adrenalin that was no longer being worked off during exercise. So I went to a swimming pool and swum a whole bunch of laps. The next day - no problems at all with Ammo. No aggression, no irritability from me. Exercise helps to reduce your adrenalin levels (which we guys have more of anyway) and boost your testosterone levels. Two for the price of one. Excess adrenalin can make you grumpy, irritable, angry and even aggressive. So I learned not to blame the mones for my own body chemistry, in this case. ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/8 "2011-03-20T22:43:47Z")
It took me 4 mos to get used to heavy none mixes. I wanted to drive fast get into bar brawls and got emotional. Now I’m good with it. I put on 4 sprays of ammo heavy and am ready to have fun. Every woman and man gets stunned and speechless. I am 6’ 230 and muscular so look the part. But honest to God that stuff at 4 sprays and women forget what they are doing. Probably wondering why their girl is getting so wet all of a sudden ---
**Author:** ![Madshock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Madshock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Madshock)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/9 "2011-03-21T03:44:04Z")
I have come to realized, I am no good in observing myself. So, bear with me in my unclear descriptions. From today, I am doing a Sweet Spot test for myself with Ammo, IS, IH. Man, IS goes down fast! As far as I can tell, last week (as the above posts i made) was a serious week for me. Like, Dead serious working attitude. A few close colleagues are like, is something wrong? Clearly, they sense something. I just do not know what their views are. (explaining my poor perception). However so, apart from being dead serious while i’m working, I feel confident and actually communicated a lot better then I usually do, i can see flags being raised here, yes.. should be the IS/IH. Communicated better because i get better attention? or is it because of my dead serious attitude? I have no idea. But things are definitely different. This seriousness must be the works of nones from ammo, because usually I’m with that laid back, carefree work attitude. Why would I come to this conclusion? Because today, as mentioned, I’m doing the test for my sweet spot and I started with only IS. Skipping a few steps tho, doing 3xIS togo. I’m feeling good, confident but.. that serious attitude seems missing. Man, I really hope I’m into something here. This has given me enough confidence to get more stuffs from AD. next up, A314, IO and not forgetting a big fat bottle of IS. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rizingfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rizingfire/32/1733_2.png) [@Rizingfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rizingfire)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/10 "2011-03-21T10:15:38Z")
IH doesn’t sound like it would be good to wear out, more for hanging out 1 on one time but I am new. I have been using 1 shot A314, 2 shots IS, 1 shot IO, and 2 sprays of ammo and I have been noticing positive self changes, though yesterday I was a psychopath but I just quit smoking and yesterday was the last day of my nic fit so I was on a tear…normally the ammo just makes me feel good, like a GQ model, with a side of Bond…but the IS is calming for me and not sure what does what but so far so good… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/11 "2011-03-21T19:21:00Z")
> [@Madshock](#): > > I have come to realized, I am no good in observing myself. So, bear with me in my unclear descriptions. > > From today, I am doing a Sweet Spot test for myself with Ammo, IS, IH. Man, IS goes down fast! > > As far as I can tell, last week (as the above posts i made) was a serious week for me. Like, Dead serious working attitude. A few close colleagues are like, is something wrong? Clearly, they sense something. I just do not know what their views are. (explaining my poor perception). However so, apart from being dead serious while i’m working, I feel confident and actually communicated a lot better then I usually do, i can see flags being raised here, yes.. should be the IS/IH. Communicated better because i get better attention? or is it because of my dead serious attitude? I have no idea. But things are definitely different. > > This seriousness must be the works of nones from ammo, because usually I’m with that laid back, carefree work attitude. Why would I come to this conclusion? Because today, as mentioned, I’m doing the test for my sweet spot and I started with only IS. Skipping a few steps tho, doing 3xIS togo. I’m feeling good, confident but.. that serious attitude seems missing. > > Man, I really hope I’m into something here. This has given me enough confidence to get more stuffs from AD. next up, A314, IO and not forgetting a big fat bottle of IS. 😃 Sweet spot testing is using one product at a time until you discover at what dosage it works best for you, all by itself. Using all those products there would be absolutely no way to know if one is working or not. Also consider it might not actually be the Ammo that causes you to have a bad day. You could be abreacting to something else completely.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Madshock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Madshock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Madshock)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/12 "2011-03-22T02:10:39Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Sweet spot testing is using one product at a time until you discover at what dosage it works best for you, all by itself. Using all those products there would be absolutely no way to know if one is working or not. Also consider it might not actually be the Ammo that causes you to have a bad day. You could be abreacting to something else completely.🙂 Thinking back, I wont be saying I had a bad day after all. Its more of being serious and critical about issues, which lead to some frustrations along the way… and its not just 1 day. but the whole work week. if I recall correctly, i was using 2XAmmo, IS, IH… but anyways, consider it my random test runs for the week.Which, tells me something. mones works in some way. This week, I will be using ONLY IS for the week. and see what i get. From yesterdays results, confident, witty, but i think i talked too much for on some moments. LOL Great day by the way, but its kind of scary, I lost a deal yesterday, and its not a small deal, but i didn’t really cared about it. I went like, “I see I see, any way to get this back up? No? Ok, I’ll talk to you soon”. ---
**Author:** ![Madshock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Madshock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Madshock)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-negative-self-effects/49392/13 "2011-03-24T16:14:38Z")
Today, being a adventurous, i decided that i would like to test and ID what and OD would be. The reaction of others, the looks, the feel. So, reading through the journals here, I’m thinking like 3 shots of togo Ammo might be a bit much for work. So i decide to try and see. Dosage : 3 X ammo only. 1on each wrist. 1 on throat. A little recap about me in my [intro](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/49135/6). 🙂 So here it goes. Went to work, everything seems normal to me. couldn’t detect any hostility from guys. my lady boss(mid 30s) which sits next to me seems to have no reaction whatsoever. And i was thinking at that point of time.. is this like.. the Ghosting effect? however, chats as normal, work was OK. nothing to report here. Few hours later, my “buddy girl” lets call her B. Starts to make me notice her, i mean.. this is not normal. she is the kind that doesn’t take shit during working hours. She comes to my table, lightly smacks my hands away from the keyboard and starts talking about some random stuffs. then starts to share some things that she wouldn’t tell me before. Starts caring abt my work and progress, which she usually wouldn’t talk abt it.. lets just say I’m not the best performer in the team. I was surprised, this has never happened before. thereafter we had quite a good chat over lunch with a group, which was normal but somehow it feels different. 6 hours after application. midway through work. B again, with 2 other lady colleagues decides to discuss something just across my desk, which another lady was sitting. and while the rest was talking, i had the shock of my life when i decided to look up. I, for the 1st time in my life, have finally witness how a DIHL looks like when its in my face. LOL she was like staring with some dazed look, and when our eyes met for like a very short while probably 2-3secs, she realized that she was staring and her eyes wondered behind me. I hope i’m not imagining things. haha. But that was kinda Cool! seriously, she has never taken me seriously before, at least that’s what i thought. Ok, tell me guys. Do you think I’m imagining things? or is this a HIT. and.. 3xammo, OD? or my sweet spot? Comments please~