# AMMO regular, summer and world versions: what's the difference for a 33 year old? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 13, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431 "2013-03-13T20:38:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tilarium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Tilarium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tilarium)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/1 "2013-03-13T20:38:09Z")
So was just looking at making another order as my togo bottles are running low. Want to pick up some new AMMO and noticed that there is regular, summer and now world versions. What is the difference and what do people recommend for a 33 (34 in July) year old? ---
**Author:** ![Tilarium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Tilarium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tilarium)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/2 "2013-03-14T02:13:24Z")
Ammo I’m thinking I need to put in an order again soon as most of my togos from my newbie kit are running out. I was thinking about getting a regular sized bottle of AMMO but I noticed that there was 3 versions up. What’s the difference between them? Which does everyone like and/or recommend for a 33 year old (34 in July) male? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/3 "2013-03-14T02:53:35Z")
Ammo - Androstenone, Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone, in FF21 scent Ammo [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/). Same components - Androstenone, Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone, in FF22 scent, which is a lighter more floral scent. My personal favourite. Both of the above are available in “Standard” - 2.5mcg per component, or “Heavy” - 5mcg each versions. Scent strength remains the same for both. Summer Ammo - Same basic components at 2.5mcg (no “Heavy” version) but with an extra two molecules, TAA and P130, (don’t know the dose for these) and a lighter fresh scent, which I also far prefer over FF21. The Summer Ammo mix is a more chilled/relaxed and comforting feel compared to the other two. TAA is the main component of Instant Shine, so Summer Ammo partially replicates the popular Ammo/IS combination. All are good but at 33, you may find the Summer Ammo a bit light - I tend to bolster mine with something like a little P75 or Androstenone and maybe some IG. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/4 "2013-03-14T10:15:00Z")
> [@Tilarium](#): > > So was just looking at making another order as my togo bottles are running low. Want to pick up some new AMMO and noticed that there is regular, summer and now world versions. What is the difference and what do people recommend for a 33 (34 in July) year old? All three are identical formulas except for their individual fragrance additives. This is better posted in Men’s Advice section, which I will be moving it to for you so you can be better assisted. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/5 "2013-03-14T10:44:06Z")
He already posted it here this morning John: `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/ammo-63731.html` ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/6 "2013-03-14T10:47:17Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/5/509381ba0bf2f59d8934c54740f3ac019ecdda7c.jpeg) I’ll just combine the two. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/7 "2013-03-14T10:53:16Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > All three are _identical_ formulas except for their individual _fragrance_ additives. This is better posted in Men’s Advice section, which I will be moving it to for you so you can be better assisted. I had no idea. Identical. I like AMMO, I’m just not a cologne person. I never have a problem with [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), but nearly any men’s cologne makes me sneeze. FF21 is almost too much for me. Smells good. Women compliment it, but my olfactory gets the best of me. Can’t hardly even wear Axe. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/8 "2013-03-14T10:56:08Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Ammo - Androstenone, Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone, in FF21 scent > > Ammo World Edition. Same components - Androstenone, Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone, in FF22 scent, which is a lighter more floral scent. My personal favourite. > > Both of the above are available in “Standard” - 2.5mcg per component, or “Heavy” - 5mcg each versions. Scent strength remains the same for both. > > Summer Ammo - Same basic components at 2.5mcg (no “Heavy” version) but with an extra two molecules, TAA and P130, (don’t know the dose for these) and a lighter fresh scent, which I also far prefer over FF21. The Summer Ammo mix is a more chilled/relaxed and comforting feel compared to the other two. TAA is the main component of Instant Shine, so Summer Ammo partially replicates the popular Ammo/IS combination. > > All are good but at 33, you may find the Summer Ammo a bit light - I tend to bolster mine with something like a little P75 or Androstenone and maybe some IG. I thought John said all formulas had the same [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/9 "2013-03-14T15:25:12Z")
Same basic formula but two extra molecules. See the first post here: > [@The OFFICIAL Summer 2012 Ammunition Reporting Thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-summer-2012-ammunition-reporting-thread/56019): > > So, HOW AWESOME is the Summer 2012 edition of Ammunition? CRAZY AWESOME BLUE SUMMER FRENCH FRAGRANCE THAT MATCHES THAT SEXY SUMMER FEEL? CHECK. TAA? CHECK. [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/)? CHECK. No seriously. How awesome? This is the reporting thread for the Summer 2012 edition of Ammunition, so REPORT IN! Whats the vibe you feel? Do you feel it matches the summer? What does the scent remind you of? Can you feel the P130 come through? Whats the diffusion like? Self-results? External results? We want to know!… I also have trouble with FF21 - I can only wear it for a couple of hours before streaming eyes, sneezing, minor itching and often a stumping headache sets-in. However i have no problems at all with the other two scents. Hard to say which is lightest - Maybe FF22 in the long run but [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is maybe the lighter of the two from application but it lasts longer as well. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/10 "2013-03-14T18:49:33Z")
> [@Tilarium](#): > > So was just looking at making another order as my togo bottles are running low. Want to pick up some new AMMO and noticed that there is regular, summer and now world versions. What is the difference and what do people recommend for a 33 (34 in July) year old? 2 sprays regular ammo, 2-3 sprays summer ammo.. Don’t know about world.. Didn’t even know it was out. ---
**Author:** ![UPSGuy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/upsguy/32/889_2.png) [@UPSGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UPSGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/11 "2013-03-14T23:19:51Z")
The original thread did say [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) has two extra molecules. The product description says it has two extra molecules. But the availabity of it has been “extended.” And then we have John saying they are same formula _today_. Maybe this latest “extended” batch actually does have the same formula with the only difference being the fragrance. Of course he may have misspoken, but I’m going to go with the latest word from John as being the one to trust until there is a newer update. ---
**Author:** ![UPSGuy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/upsguy/32/889_2.png) [@UPSGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UPSGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/12 "2013-03-18T15:56:10Z")
John just confirmed with me that [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) no longer contains the boosters. The only difference is the new custom fragrance. The product description on the site has been updated so it no longer mentions the boosters. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/13 "2013-03-19T16:46:16Z")
> [@UPSGuy](#): > > John just confirmed with me that Summer Ammo no longer contains the boosters. The only difference is the new custom fragrance. The product description on the site has been updated so it no longer mentions the boosters. So, [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is not longer Summer Ammo, it wears the name, but it’s actually AMMO with Summer Ammo’s scent? John. John. Are you there? Confirmed as in you talked with him, UPSGuy? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/14 "2013-03-19T16:50:57Z")
Yes, I did speak with UPSGuy. Summer 2012 Edition Ammo with the boosters were supposed to be that first batch only. A limited edition. However, I may be wrong about it not containing boosters anymore. I am not at the lab to check, so I have asked them if they are utilizing a special [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) base (which would include boosters) or just the fragrance, so standby. Should have an answer tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/15 "2013-03-19T16:55:11Z")
Cool beans! 'Cause I’d love the regular [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) in Summer’s scent!!! Thank’ya!! ---
**Author:** ![Trainwreck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trainwreck/32/1517_2.png) [@Trainwreck](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trainwreck)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/16 "2013-03-19T20:32:24Z")
I really hope they could do both unless the boosters are in a bit of demand I wouldn’t care to much . I love summer ammo with p130 and TAA. It really makes me feel like I just added Ammo and IS but from one bottle. If it’s not made with the boosters anymore John, can you let us know what batch numbers it stopped at? I have a few togos of it still. ---
**Author:** ![AlGem1st](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/algem1st/32/1332_2.png) [@AlGem1st](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AlGem1st)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/18 "2013-03-19T20:58:20Z")
> [@UPSGuy](#): > > John just confirmed with me that Summer Ammo no longer contains the boosters. The only difference is the new custom fragrance. The product description on the site has been updated so it no longer mentions the boosters. > [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Yes, I did speak with UPSGuy. > > Summer 2012 Edition Ammo with the boosters were supposed to be that first batch only. A limited edition. > > However, I may be wrong about it not containing boosters anymore. I am not at the lab to check, so I have asked them if they are utilizing a special Summer Ammo base (which would include boosters) or just the fragrance, so standby. > > Should have an answer tomorrow. > [@Trainwreck](#): > > I really hope they could do both unless the boosters are in a bit of demand I wouldn’t care to much . I love summer ammo with p130 and TAA. It really makes me feel like I just added Ammo and IS but from one bottle. If it’s not made with the boosters anymore John, can you let us know what batch numbers it stopped at? I have a few togos of it still. I totally agree with Trainwreck here. There already are different AMMO scent versions IMHO, AD should keep the Ammo SE with the boosters, why mess with a winning formula 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Tilarium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Tilarium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tilarium)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/19 "2013-03-20T05:34:19Z")
All of this talk on scent with that being the only difference got me wondering about mixing scents and how that plays off. I’ve never been a guy that wears cologne or even aftershave so scents are a new thing to me. I’m considering the world edition but most of my other mones have a nerol scent to them. Would using them in conjunction with the world edition end up smelling weird or bad or anything? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/20 "2013-03-20T06:24:14Z")
[World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) and Neroli are fine together, no problem. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431/21 "2013-03-20T13:50:53Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Cool beans! 'Cause I’d love the regular Ammo in Summer’s scent!!! > > Thank’ya!! And if that is the case, there would be nothing stopping them offering it in a heavy version as well - Which would suit me nicely. 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-regular-summer-and-world-versions-whats-the-difference-for-a-33-year-old/58431.md?page=2)