# Ammo results: no lasting effect on a coworker or at the bar, wrong product? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 18, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402 "2011-09-18T02:00:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bow4iverson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@bow4iverson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bow4iverson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/1 "2011-09-18T02:00:45Z")
Hello, I just want to log my initial results of using the product. I ordered the ammo to go small spray bottle. One of my coworkers were at a coworkers house and had drank quite a bit when we were there. Normally this woman doesn’t go out of her way to talk to me at work but we converse here and there. At this party, due to the fact I had to drive her home, I stopped drinking early to be sober enough to drive. Upon walking her to her apartment, she expressed disappointment when I told her I was going home. I could have gone with the flow but decided to leave because she was drunk and I wasn’t. I figured I had made strides due to that night, but every day that passed our relationship stayed the same as before that night, as if that night had not even happened. I figured ammo might make an positive effect. Now for the results. One spray of ammo on me after interacting with her resulted in the exact same results as I had prior to the spray. No one at my work mentioned really anything positive while I had this one me. Two days ago a few of us went to the bar for her birthday. I had interacted with her with ammo on while we were both drinking and go absolutely no where. It seems as if I had opposite results with her when I had it on than the week before that. That was with her. Other results. One coworker said what is that smell in a bad way. And proceeded to ask me if I had went out back and was drinking. No one seemed to enjoy the smell and that was one spray. I wish I could say I had a positive experience, but this was anything but. What suggestions would you have? Am I using the wrong product? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![maksimus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@maksimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maksimus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/2 "2011-09-18T02:47:31Z")
If you’re using [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) at the work place, yes it is the wrong product. Ammo is a sexual product and is inappropriate for the workplace. You’re better off using products like IS, IH, IO and of course the gold standard A314 for an Alpha vibe. Read up on the different mones for different situations at these threads > [@The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879): > > So many pheros, so many newbs asking the same questions… I’ll break this down in a few different ways. Section one is for high school. two is for work. three is for clubbing. four is miscellany. NOTE: I will only be covering the pre-mixed products on this page, since it is being written for beginners. If you’re new to pheromones, please leave the TA, P, and MX series for later, once you’re a believer that -mones can do all I say they can below. Section one High School Firstly, if you’re unde… > [@Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802): > > AD offers a wide array of pheromones out there. There’s been more and more new users asking about products and what not. To start off here are some basic guides for pheromones. This is a great writeup by Steve O to test pheromones out that you receive. [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-sweet-spot/55943)[http://www.pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-today/introduction-](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-the-introductions-new-users-say-hello-category/189702)[pheromones-names-size-strength-use-46373.html](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012) Here is also a guide to the molecules by toilofd… Update - Okay looks like you were using Ammo at outside social situations with coworkers. In that case you might have OD’d even at 1 spray of Ammo. You can try to buffer that with IS and/or IO to mellow the effects of Ammo. Maybe try half a spray of ammo (is it regular strength or 2X?). You should really test for your sweet spot. I would still suggest reading up on the above threads to get familiar with the different mones. ---
**Author:** ![bow4iverson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@bow4iverson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bow4iverson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/3 "2011-09-18T02:50:15Z")
> [@maksimus](#): > > If you’re using Ammo at the work place, yes it is the wrong product. Ammo is a sexual product and is inappropriate for the workplace. You’re better off using products like IS, IH, IO and of course the gold standard A314 for an Alpha vibe. Read up on the different mones for different situations at these threads > > [The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) > > [Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802) I also used Ammo at the bar and it was equally ineffective. ---
**Author:** ![maksimus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@maksimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maksimus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/4 "2011-09-18T02:57:40Z")
> [@bow4iverson](#): > > I also used Ammo at the bar and it was equally ineffective. I realized that and I updated my post above. Please let me know if you have any more questions. I’m sure others more experienced than I can pitch in with their thoughts as well. ---
**Author:** ![bow4iverson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@bow4iverson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bow4iverson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/5 "2011-09-18T02:59:00Z")
> [@maksimus](#): > > I realized that and I updated my post above. Please let me know if you have any more questions. > > I’m sure others more experienced than I can pitch in with their thoughts as well. Thanks for the reply and it was 1x. ---
**Author:** ![celticguy32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@celticguy32](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celticguy32)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/6 "2011-09-18T04:11:16Z")
no results here either used 3 sprays of it one too the chest and one on right and left wrist. was at a bar too alot of girls…maybe we are useing it wrong? ---
**Author:** ![celticguy32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@celticguy32](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/celticguy32)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/7 "2011-09-18T04:22:01Z")
> [@bow4iverson](#): > > Hello, > > I just want to log my initial results of using the product. I ordered the ammo to go small spray bottle. One of my coworkers were at a coworkers house and had drank quite a bit when we were there. Normally this woman doesn’t go out of her way to talk to me at work but we converse here and there. At this party, due to the fact I had to drive her home, I stopped drinking early to be sober enough to drive. Upon walking her to her apartment, she expressed disappointment when I told her I was going home. I could have gone with the flow but decided to leave because she was drunk and I wasn’t. I figured I had made strides due to that night, but every day that passed our relationship stayed the same as before that night, as if that night had not even happened. I figured ammo might make an positive effect. Now for the results. > > One spray of ammo on me after interacting with her resulted in the exact same results as I had prior to the spray. No one at my work mentioned really anything positive while I had this one me. Two days ago a few of us went to the bar for her birthday. I had interacted with her with ammo on while we were both drinking and go absolutely no where. It seems as if I had opposite results with her when I had it on than the week before that. That was with her. > > Other results. One coworker said what is that smell in a bad way. And proceeded to ask me if I had went out back and was drinking. No one seemed to enjoy the smell and that was one spray. > > I wish I could say I had a positive experience, but this was anything but. What suggestions would you have? Am I using the wrong product? > > Thanks. The smell is deafantly weird!! i used 3 sprays tonight at the bar no results ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/8 "2011-09-18T12:17:40Z")
> [@maksimus](#): > > **If you’re using Ammo at the work place, yes it is the wrong product. Ammo is a sexual product and is inappropriate for the workplace.** You’re better off using products like IS, IH, IO and of course the gold standard A314 for an Alpha vibe. Read up on the different mones for different situations at these threads > > [The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) > > [Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802) > > Update - Okay looks like you were using Ammo at outside social situations with coworkers. In that case you might have OD’d even at 1 spray of Ammo. You can try to buffer that with IS and/or IO to mellow the effects of Ammo. Maybe try half a spray of ammo (is it regular strength or 2X?). You should really test for your sweet spot. > > I would still suggest reading up on the above threads to get familiar with the different mones. I disagree. For me Ammo works just fine in any situation and is not an overtly sexual product. It can be sexual but it isn’t only that. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/9 "2011-09-18T18:14:07Z")
Yep ammo is pretty well rounded and conveys more of a sexy guy vibe, it can be used in most everyday situations, you are fine to use it at work aslong as you don’t go too mad with it, I suggest you follow the guide to find you sweet spot. ---
**Author:** ![DotCom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dotcom/32/2152_2.png) [@DotCom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DotCom)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/10 "2011-09-18T21:12:41Z")
The laws of [pheromones](https://a314.com/): 1. You must initiate the conversation 2. -None by itself can lead to an easy OD since it builds up over time 3. In order you counteract law #2, you should apply socials as well 4. All of these rules must be followed with an appropriate sweet spot ratio Neglect any one of these rules and you will not get any hits. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/11 "2011-09-18T21:28:03Z")
> [@DotCom](#): > > The laws of pheromones: > > 1. You must initiate the conversation > 2. -None by itself can lead to an easy OD since it builds up over time > 3. In order you counteract law #2, you should apply socials as well > 4. All of these rules must be followed with an appropriate sweet spot ratio > > Neglect any one of these rules and you will not get any hits. Not entirely true. Many times I don’t need to initiate the conversation. Also hits don’t always mean conversation. ---
**Author:** ![notlad\_shrugged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@notlad\_shrugged](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/notlad_shrugged)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/12 "2011-09-18T22:27:17Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > Not entirely true. Many times I don’t need to initiate the conversation. Also hits don’t always mean conversation. I agree. I used AMMO for the first time today, 2 sprays, and I got hits from a stranger. No conversation, just standing in the checkout line (pun?). Hair flips and good eye contact. Oh, how cool are the mones! ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/13 "2011-09-18T22:33:13Z")
> [@notlad\_shrugged](#): > > I agree. I used AMMO for the first time today, 2 sprays, and I got hits from a stranger. No conversation, just standing in the checkout line (pun?). Hair flips and good eye contact. Oh, how cool are the mones! LOL! They’re definately fun. I think that I get more amusement from seeing the offbeat reactions to the mones when I go in public places than from any other use I might use them for. Social Experimentation at its finest 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mariocisneros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@mariocisneros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mariocisneros)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/14 "2011-09-19T02:17:56Z")
> [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > LOL! They’re definately fun. I think that I get more amusement from seeing the offbeat reactions to the mones when I go in public places than from any other use I might use them for. Social Experimentation at its finest 🙂 Totally agree bro! I love to see the effects on others, of course, as well the self-effects I get from them. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/15 "2011-09-19T17:38:14Z")
Just wanted to point out a glaring mistake up above…ammo is safe for work…as long as you find your sweet spot use it to your hearts content. While its a “sexual” product, its more sexy than sexual and can increase your attraction factor, and there’s nothing wrong with being attractive at work. Attractive people suffer from a lot of perks. I think your mistake here is even tho’ she was drunk, you could have shown some sexual interest without having sex. You could have escalated physically, and then when she got all hot and bothered walk away showing some consideration and restraint. How drunk was she? Was she so drunk that she wasn’t capable of making informed consent? Or was she just tipsy and you’re letting your “nice guy” be "respectful?’ Simple fact is even if she was a bit drunk, she’s a sexual being and has the right, the choice if she so chooses to bang a guy while inebriated. In her mind, the reason she’s no longer interested is because you wimped out and didn’t pull the trigger. If you had at least made out hot and heavy, you could have gone for a day 2 and that could have led to sober sex. #2… The situation is completely different outside of what happened that night. She was caught up in the moment. There was all kinds of sensory input going on from the party and it affected her emotionally and physically. She was maybe DTF right then, but now the next day, she’s had time to think things over without being affected by all that high energy and she realizes that it wouldn’t be the best decision to have sex with a co-worker..or whatever reason she came up with. We’ve all been in both of these situations. I’ve fucked up more good times in my life with women who were attracted to me, ready to become totally infatuated with me..but I got into my head and made their decisions for them out of some bullshit code of respect that had more to do with fear and low self-esteem than their feelings. Learn from this lesson and move onto the next one…good luck 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gb4g63](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@gb4g63](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gb4g63)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/16 "2011-09-20T02:56:06Z")
Well this weekend was my first real use of Ammo, I went to a local dance club and had on 3 sprays of Ammo on the neck with 3 sprays of IS each forarm and one in the hair. I saw huge results with this. I had a girl stop and aproach me just after passing by her on the street on the way to the club. When i finally got there, i got 3 numbers (one being the waitress\bartender) and took a nice late 20’s blond girl home for the evening. Maybe this basic combination just works well with my personality, who knows it’s the first try on it but i will use it again. At this point I have nothing but love for Ammo! ---
**Author:** ![maksimus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@maksimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maksimus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/17 "2011-09-20T13:23:22Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Just wanted to point out a glaring mistake up above…ammo is safe for work…as long as you find your sweet spot use it to your hearts content. While its a “sexual” product, its more sexy than sexual and can increase your attraction factor, and there’s nothing wrong with being attractive at work. Attractive people suffer from a lot of perks. > > I think your mistake here is even tho’ she was drunk, you could have shown some sexual interest without having sex. You could have escalated physically, and then when she got all hot and bothered walk away showing some consideration and restraint. > > How drunk was she? Was she so drunk that she wasn’t capable of making informed consent? Or was she just tipsy and you’re letting your “nice guy” be "respectful?’ > Simple fact is even if she was a bit drunk, she’s a sexual being and has the right, the choice if she so chooses to bang a guy while inebriated. > In her mind, the reason she’s no longer interested is because you wimped out and didn’t pull the trigger. If you had at least made out hot and heavy, you could have gone for a day 2 and that could have led to sober sex. > > #2… The situation is completely different outside of what happened that night. She was caught up in the moment. There was all kinds of sensory input going on from the party and it affected her emotionally and physically. She was maybe DTF right then, but now the next day, she’s had time to think things over without being affected by all that high energy and she realizes that it wouldn’t be the best decision to have sex with a co-worker..or whatever reason she came up with. > > We’ve all been in both of these situations. I’ve fucked up more good times in my life with women who were attracted to me, ready to become totally infatuated with me..but I got into my head and made their decisions for them out of some bullshit code of respect that had more to do with fear and low self-esteem than their feelings. > > Learn from this lesson and move onto the next one…good luck 🙂 I’m glad people more experienced than me have pitched in. Thanks for correcting. ---
**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-results-no-lasting-effect-on-a-coworker-or-at-the-bar-wrong-product/52402/18 "2011-09-20T19:23:18Z")
You also have to remember that some days are hit, and some days are miss. I have a base work mix, and a base going out mix. Sometimes it’s a success, and sometimes the exact same mix wont get me anything. I remember the first day I got my mones, I got 3 really good noticeable hits at the mall, and thought I’m the man with mones. I wore the exact same mix a few days later to the same mall, and received pretty much nothing. It all matters on the mood of the person or people around you.