# ammo test pack 7, could this be the holy grail? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656 "2009-01-08T16:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/1 "2009-01-08T16:09:33Z")
Huge post for which I apologise but some interesting results so ( I would like to think) worth reading to the end. My two main testing areas are at home (on the wife who knows about my pheros and uses some herself) and my college courses, for two evenings a week I spend a couple of hours in small classrooms as the only man with 8-12 women from early 20s to mid 40s; I know, but someone has got to do it. I have chosen to test like this so as to have a control mechanism, testing on the same people each week should give a better baseline than the somewhat random method that a club or bar could give. All tests have been in temperatures of around 20 celsius/68 fahrenheit and I have made a command decision not to read any posts whatsoever about these mixes prior to or during testing. Week 1 – MX 275 Day 1 Saturday. At home all day, single shot at 10 am split between wrists and then rubbed under ears. I think this is the new neroli scent, more citrus than before which appears to have met with wife’s approval. I immediately notice a slight uplift in my spirits. From my already good mood, I felt a little giggly, similar to (but not as intense) as I get from a shot of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). She who must not be obeyed seems to have slightly buoyed spirits after about 10 minutes as do the kids . I feel the effects start to wear off after a couple of hours. Refresh with single shot at 4pm, similar effects noted with similar duration. Happy and relaxed family all day. Day 2 Sunday. Started with two shots at 10 am and felt the same uplift in spirits almost immediately and noticed the same with the good lady after some 10 minutes or so. Bearing in mind that we are pottering around the house, loading the dishwasher, feeding the cats etc, it is noticeable that the timeframe remains consistent despite not being in the same room for continuous periods which suggests to me that this one diffuses well. Kids running around having fun, no arguments. Refresh with two further shots wrists/ears at around 4pm. Overall, similar, slightly more intense results than yesterday. Day 3 Monday. Back to work following New Year. Office is likely to be intense, we’ve been closed since Xmas eve, the boss has had an operation and is on crutches and everyone wants to get divorced in the New Year having seen Xmas as their last chance. Bearing this in mind, I felt that it was time for 2 drops A314 to come out at 7am, that way I will command the respect during the day and the majority of it’s effects will have worn off by college tonight at 6pm to enable me to test the MX275 on the girlies! Busy day at work, everyone stressed but me! Leave office at 5, sit in the car and have a smoke to let the traffic die down before heading off to college. Decide to up the ante a bit so three sprays MX275 at 5:20 and hit the traffic for the twenty minute drive. Despite the chaos (good god we had frost on the car this morning and the gritters are out!) I remain in my phero induced halo of giggly happiness and arrive in good time. 2 more sprays just for the hell of it and into the classroom. This class is always a happy, laughing group but tonight is definitely more relaxed and funloving than normal. Tutor (mid 40s Caucasian) normally has no problem maintaining eye contact with me during discussions, however tonight she lost her train of thought a few times and on two occasions got caught staring at me from a distance of about 8 feet, on the second occasion I held her gaze until she looked down and blushed much to the hilarity of everyone else. One of my classmates is a 24 yo brunette caucasian mother of three (6 out of 10 at best) who lives with her boyfriend close to me. It is normal for me to give her a lift home after class. As we collect our bags to leave, she drops a bottle of wine which I catch before it hits the floor. I then comment loudly that “if she wanted to get me drunk and have her way with me, it should have been red wine” this was met with overexuberant laughter from the rest of the class yet she seemed completely unembarrassed. Freezing cold night so we let the car warm up for a couple of minutes before leaving. I’m still a little giggly, anyone who knows me (and a couple of the ladies on here) will tell you that I am an outrageous flirt. As we drive off, I jokingly suggest that we stop off in a quiet car park and enjoy the wine, this again is met with snorts of laughter followed by a pensive silence from her, she is actually considering it!! The drive home takes about 20 minutes, the heating is on full blast and we are having a ball, I am getting more and more outrageous, she is laughing longer and harder. I make the point that I am only flirting and tell her that I will, of course, behave myself if I’m making her uncomfortable, she tells me not be stupid and that she’s enjoying herself. At this point we are some 4 miles from home and I suggest that we find a quiet car park, when she doesn’t say no, the interest is obvious but she attempts to divert the conversation. I point out the fact that she hasn’t said no to which I receive the reply “No, I haven’t but you’re married and I’ve got a boyfriend” At this point I make as if to pull into a quiet car park expecting her to protest. She does, but very reluctantly. As we pull up at her house, being a gentleman, I remind her that I am only teasing and she is perfectly safe. She asks if I am going to behave better next week, I say no, she says “Oh good”. I’m in little doubt that, despite being married, if I had pushed just a little harder, or even just not backed off when I did, things could easily have got a whole lot more interesting. Day 4 Tuesday Phero free Day 5 Wednesday No Pheros all day, leaving myself ‘clean’ for the evening college class. 5.00 pm, straight six shots split wrists, neck and hair.5:30, two further sprays to hair Early into college, one girl (early 30s married Caucasian blonde), lets call her girlA is already in her usual seat some 10 feet from mine. I stand some 3 feet away for several minutes chatting about work ( she works for a rival firm as PA to a friend of mine), after a few minutes she starts playing with her hair, pointing her feet and body towards me and smoothing her skirt. She moves to maintain this posture when I move some 3 feet to my left. The rest of the class arrive and I take my seat. Girl B is a few years older than me, blonde and married and instead of taking her usual seat, plonks herself down next to me. As class goes on, I can see her actually squirming in her seat and gradually moving her books towards me and leaning in to read from her notes The heating is on full blast and she mentions to me that she is hot, I reply by negging her that she should be more modest, she goes bright red and giggles like a 12 year old. I catch a couple of distinct IOI gazes from girl A who deliberately holds my gaze. Girl C, 18 and blonde is some fifteen feet and has a nervous stammer She is also full of cold. She is talking to the tutor quite calmly then looks at me and starts to stammer and blush. I have previously seen that she is interested but am surprised by this reaction, I lost count of the number of stares I got from her after that. After about an hour, class broke for a coffee break and I nipped out for a smoke, Girl B comes out but Girl C (who smokes like a chimney) doesn’t. When we go back, I ask if she has given up, I can see her frantically thinking of an excuse but get the distinct impression that she was afraid to lest she embarrass herself. What I do notice after we get back in is that Girl B is displaying far less body language toward me, either she has become aware of it or the proximity and amount of MX275 is starting to overload her neurotransmitters. Girl A is still looking when she thinks I can’t see her and Girl C is virtually dribbling. All in all, not a bad few days, I’ve kept about 10 sprays back for some re-evaluation once I’ve tested the whole pack. First Impressions. I think this is higher on the socials than the existing ammo, I was almost immediately giggly and, once the sexual element had come through, was able to flirt to a point that could be construed as sexual harassment almost without fear of rejection. I’m not even going to try to guess what is in it but it, in my experience, makes the existing ammo ( which I think is a superb product) look like a lame duck. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/2 "2009-01-08T16:18:10Z")
good report diamond, rep ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/3 "2009-01-08T16:21:55Z")
Oh wow. This is the kind of testing & reporting I hoped to see months & months ago, back when we released it. Thank you. It’s 277 and 279 that I personally observed the most interesting results with, btw. I usually don’t say that early on, but this pack has been out for _loooonnnng_ time. I’m really looking forward to see how you view MX277 and MX279 vs. the one you like, MX275. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/4 "2009-01-08T16:33:47Z")
@Jamesbonded, thanks dude! @Jasmin, you are welcome, if they kick like this one then I am gonna have fun 😃 Only downside, bought MX292 today, that will have to wait a few weeks now 😮 ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/5 "2009-01-08T16:35:17Z")
Nice reporting!!! ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/6 "2009-01-08T16:40:54Z")
Great reporting Diamond. What dose is giving you best results. Maybe I’m not using enough. I’ve only gone as high as three sprays. One person I’m around regularly always asks me who I’ve been around that was smoking when I wear these.LOL ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/7 "2009-01-08T16:49:25Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Great reporting Diamond. What dose is giving you best results. Maybe I’m not using enough. I’ve only gone as high as three sprays. One person I’m around regularly always asks me who I’ve been around that was smoking when I wear these.LOL I think the most outrageous was the car trip, that was 5 sprays 2 - 2.5 hours after application and in a confined space, there may also have been some residual A314 from 13 hours earlier. The six sprays yesterday evening seemed to have a good result to start with but then seemed to tail off after an hour or so at close distance, over 8 feet still good strong reactions after two hours. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/8 "2009-01-16T12:57:14Z")
Exactly the same testing regime as last week’s MX275 adventure. I know most people are raving about MX292 but I’m going to finish this test pack first! If I don’t, I dread to think what Jasmin will do to me ( or what she might slip in with my next order!) Week 2 – MX 276 Day 1 Saturday. Felt slightly increased good mood about 5 minutes after application of single spray. Similar to the result from I Shine but probably only half as pronounced. Day 2 Sunday. Started with two shots at 10 am and felt the same uplift in spirits almost immediately, children are down with a nasty virus that causes repeated vomiting. Despite this, atmosphere still bright, jokey and fun. I am starting to form the impression that this mix is the MX275 without the sexual element, I’m also not getting the self effect that I get with –none, I’m more the life and soul of the party rather than ‘the man’. Day 3 Monday. Completely phero free until leaving for the college session. Park car at 5:30 ready for course at 6. 5 sprays and immediately the world seems a happier, fun place. Not a hint of sexuality. Class starts and within 10 minutes has descended into chaos, adults acting like schoolkids, lecturer loses the plot and joins in with the jokes. Even case histories involving dark legal subjects fail to dim the mood and are greeted with ridiculously funny suggestions ( in retrospect they weren’t all that funny-hmm, phero induced hilarity?) The poor girl who was the subject of last week’s experiment in the car was absent this week ( daughter’s birthday, I hadn’t scared her off) so no testing on the way home, just as well, probably would have crashed the car through laughing) Day 4 Tuesday Phero free Day 5 Wednesday No Pheros all day in preparation for the college course which was subsequently cancelled due to tutor illness. Later in the night decide that the time has come for a heart to heart with the wife. 4 shots MX276 and a single IHx4 thinking that, as the 276 raises the fun atmosphere, coupled with the IH it could well lead to some discussion re the future without the seriousness I feel with IFM. Wife then runs to bathroom with kid’s virus, scratch the plan then! She wants to be left alone in the bedroom with a bowl. I decide to crack open a bottle of scotch and have a couple of large ones. Log on line and have PM chat with a certain young lady who has piqued my interest somewhat. Be warned, even though I am well used to the effects of IH, I found myself opening up way too much and laid it all on the line, expressing thoughts that I wasn’t even aware that I was having. Thankfully, it played out well, some interesting discussion which has opened a whole host of thought processes. Day 6 Thursday 4 shots MX276 at 10 am, office environment (two serious lawyers in their sixties, 50 something receptionist and me) noticeably bouncy and fun despite a lot of pressure due to impending major case. 4 shots at 4:30 and leave at 5. As I leave, I bump into a girl I haven’t seen for a few weeks, I know she is into me (because she has told me so before). She immediately straightens up, angles her hips toward me, thrusts her (not inconsiderable) assets in my direction and starts playing with her hair. We chat briefly in a cold windy car park and she asks for my email address, simple as that. By the time I got home, ate, put the kids to bed and chilled out, there was an email waiting for me detailing precisely what she was going to do with me given half the chance. Now, and here’s a lesson for the newbies, either MX 276 can travel upwind against all the laws of physics and affect people in seconds or, she had effects from our previous encounters which have burned into her subconscious. You may not even be aware of the hit, but it has registered and can be remembered weeks later, Never say die, never assume it ‘didn’t work’. A month ago, it was ‘I fancy you but you’re married’, yesterday it was ‘fuck the wedding ring, I want this guy’ I’m naturally bouncy, joking and confident but it has taken a lot of self talk to do it, I think this mix was congruent with my personality but purely on a social basis, the sexual desire came from her previous exposure to my wit, charm and personality or maybe it was a couple of shots of ammo. Impressions. Big on the socials, not on the sexual (in a –none way), I find the socials lead to sexual innuendo anyway but that’s probably down to me steering conversations that way. I still think that MX276 is the MX275 without –none but there is a nagging thought that there is something a little, I don’t know, almost feminine element which offsets any masculinity in the mix. I’m not saying it makes you appear gay, but it definitely makes you less of a threat,it’s almost like a happier version of IFM in its effects. Sort of the effect you would expect was you to expose a slightly drunk woman to a high dose of IFM. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/9 "2009-01-27T14:26:46Z")
Again, carrying on the same dosages and same locations, this time it’s MX 277 and taking absolutely no notice of Jasmin’s post about this and MX279 😛 Week 3 – MX 277 Day 1 Saturday. Woke up in a foul mood, put it down to being a husband and dad, sometimes we have good days, others, we have bad ones. One spray direct to throat at 10:30am. No immediate self effects but wife and kids seemed somewhat happier after 10 minutes in the same room ( around 4-6 feet apart). Cats are going crazy though ( one 8 yo neutered male and one entire 9 month old male), despite being fed, refusing to leave the room and have their breakfast, rubbing round my ankles, jumping on my lap and hanging round my neck, I’m just waiting for one to start humping my ankle!! I have previously noticed both react to A314 and be far more affectionate with me (think male lion cubs with alpha male) this is more like they consider playing with the pride leader more important than food. 11:00 Spirits are starting to elevate, I actually crack a smile, had one coffee but as a caffeine addict, I doubt if that contributed anything. 14:00 Having noticed very little effects, refresh with another spray, notice same pattern, mild effects on others some 15 minutes before a slight uplift in my own mood, no longer cranky but definitely thoughtful with the ability to grin when needed. Day 2 Sunday. Started with two shots at 11 am (for once, we were allowed a lie in), same self effects as yesterday noticed within 5 minutes. Much better mood generally and this is adding to the vibe. At the same time, I have some serious thinking to do about the future and frequently stare into space whilst thinking. Normally, the wife would just ask what was the matter, to which the reply is generally ‘nothing’, meaning, as the ladies know, there is something wrong but I’m not ready to talk yet! Today, I get a finger in the ribs, tickled and jokingly told to get back on the planet. Kids bouncing, ‘dad, can you play on the Wii with us, dad, can we have…, dad, this and dad, that all day long’ not once was mum asked for anything ( and she took full advantage of the peace!) This is a difficult one to pin down, I know there have been good reports on MX277, it’s not doing it for me in the same way that MX275 did, it’s still there but far more subtle. I shan’t be throwing out the other ammo for this one. For the first time since I started testing this pack, the self effects are nowhere near the level of effects on my nearest and dearest. Day 3 Monday. Completely phero free until leaving for the college session. 3 sprays at 5:00, drive to college completely unfazed by normal idiot traffic. 2 further sprays at 5:40 place. Class it’s normal boisterous, funny self but nowhere near the chaos of the previous two weeks. One thing to note, the redhead who sits next to me (2 feet or so)would laugh at a joke and then immediately look to me for approval, if I cracked a joke, it was outrageously funny. IOIs from her all night long ( the only singleton in the group), maybe it was just alpha male thing (I’m the only guy) Not sure on this one. The journey home, I have to admit, I had high hopes, MX277 is supposed to be the pick of the bunch and I was interested to see what it would bring after the near extramarital experience with MX275. I kept my behaviour the same, flirty, outrageous, well, just me really and, although she laughed and fired a few lines back, there was none of the sense of her being really into the mood like she was two weeks ago, of course, we are now on the exact opposite side of her cycle but if you think I’m going to ask about that, forget it! We still had a laugh, but I in no way felt confident enough with this MX to take things too far. Day 4 Tuesday Phero free Day 5 Wednesday 4 shots at 5, drive 30 minutes to college and 2 shots when I arrive. The young blonde with the stutter who appeared to love MX275 got caught staring at me during the 2 hour class. When I went out for a cigarette, two of my classmates in their late 30s (one who was squirming next to me two weeks ago) abruptly stopped their conversation and immediately invited me to join in, when I asked what they were talking about, they couldn’t answer. Sat next to me tonight was a girl I’ve known for a few years, we always take the piss out of each other and chat regularly on facebook from our work computers. She is getting married in a few months and has absolutely no interest in any other men. I shove my wrist under her nose and ask for her opinion. She is really into the scent, I tell her that it is an experimental scent from the US, she doesn’t ask anything else as class is restarting. No IOIs but I wouldn’t expect any from her. As we go to leave, I stand up, she smacks my backside and tells me not to wear it again, she can’t concentrate!😮 Day 6 Thursday The secretary is off to New Zealand and my two colleagues are in court all day with a big case. Holding the fort on my own so no point in wasting MX on myself. I know which one I would use for self effects and I’m sorry but MX277 doesn’t do it for me. 4 straight shots to throat on the way home, tonight is the first night of the week that we can actually sit down together as a family. Everyone relaxed and having fun, kids ask to go to bed before their bedtime leaving just the two of us. Wife cuddles in and falls asleep on my chest at which point the two cats climb on and go to sleep, normally the hiss and spit if within 3 feet of each other. I know some guys look to [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to ‘get some pussy’ but this is taking the freaking piss! I’m thinking this needs a little kick to it so, just before bed, I spray 30mcg P83 on top, almost immediately I start getting giggly, eyes go slightly out of focus and I feel ever so slightly stoned, for those of you who have smoked grass, when the first joint just starts to hit, if you haven’t it’s that point when you start wondering whether you are safe to drive after a couple of beers. I don’t normally get that effect from P83 alone, it seemed to act like an amplifier. Oh, the wife, she started snoring! Impressions overall. It’s impossible to use the forum and not pick up hints about a putative or MX, I have tried not to but have had a couple of hints. I’m actually quite disappointed with this one but then again, given the MX275 hits, it had something to live up to. Onwards and upwards, pheromone utopia awaits the patient. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/10 "2009-01-27T14:56:44Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Oh wow. This is the kind of testing & reporting I hoped to see months & months ago, back when we released it. > > Thank you. > > It’s 277 and 279 that I personally observed the most interesting results with, btw. I usually don’t say that early on, but this pack has been out for _loooonnnng_ time. > > I’m really looking forward to see how you view MX277 and MX279 vs. the one you like, MX275. I still need to go back and give this another go, but 277 was on my list of good ones, and 279 gave me such a massive migraine that I haven’t been brave enough to try it again. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/11 "2009-01-28T20:32:43Z")
quality reporting diamond, i have mx280 and mx281. i got them with my first order when i was new to pheromones and tested mx281 with some good results (posted sometime ago on it) but i wasn’t really experienced enough to notice all the subtle reactions. didn’t really get much off 280 i believe for the same reason. looking forward to hear what you have to say about them. reps ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/12 "2009-01-28T21:17:47Z")
I need to get back to testing these. I remember MX275 was great, amazing almost. I couldn’t put my finger on why but it seemed more subtle but more obvious than original ammo all at the same time. The only other one I tested was MX279 which got negative effects from other males and I had a massive loss of energy 2 hours in every time I tried it. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/13 "2009-01-28T21:33:42Z")
Wrlpchnx got it as a freebie this week 😠 He’s had some interesting results with MX275 as well, he seems to be attracting older women (40ish) yet with me it works best on the early to mid 20s. Bit weird, seems to attract the opposite, almost like the [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) conundrum ( young guys appear older, older guys appear younger) Just finished testing the MX278, will post the report in the next couple of days, suffice to say big IOI from an absolute, rocksolid HB9, 20 year old blond amongst others 😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/14 "2009-01-30T08:16:43Z")
Diamond, your reports on the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) test pack have made me embarrassed to even have the stuff and not be doing such a great job of providing feedback. However, after my recent adventures testing different Ammo MXs with A314, I’m going to start testing them alone now. Starting tomorrow. I’m nearly out of MX276 though. I’m not sure how that happened. It worked extremely well with A314 and I got compliments on the smell left and right. We’ll see how things turn out soon. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/15 "2009-01-30T10:34:42Z")
Thanks for the comments guys, there is definitely some mileage in a few of these from what I’ve seen. Now, perhaps we can get Jas to let us have some of the formulae…😉 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/16 "2009-01-30T16:30:04Z")
Hey Diamond, Thanks for keeping this thread going. Since I first read it and started upping the dose to 4 sprays I’m getting more from these. In the everyday world of work or shopping they seem very subtle. Put 'em to work in a carefree environment and start flirting. I did this report on MX280 > [@MX280 flat out works!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx280-flat-out-works/25383): > > Finally a payoff from the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) Test Pack. Here’s an portion of my journal post. Edit: I have removed the details of this post for personal reasons. I was very happy with the results of my MX280 test. I’m not really comfortable going into more detail except to say that the wildness factor this mix seemed to produce was amazing. It doesn’t come across as a guy on the make like -none does but it definitly makes you seem sexy. The woman in my story was not forward until I was wearing it. The MX280 produced an urgency that she was not shy in letting me know about. I’m not sure it’s even fair to wear it in circumstances where the urgency can’t be acted upon. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/17 "2009-01-30T16:38:05Z")
Hey Renny, watch out for those Stingrays ☹ Had some good hits from MX278 this week at around 4-5 sprays, will post full report shortly. Looks like Wrlpchnx has had some fun with the MX275 as well. Totally concur with setting these free in a carefree environment, certainly for MX275 and MX278, give it ten minutes, make the girls laugh and it’s pretty much game over, winner takes all. Start with MX279 tomorrow. Tonight was supposed to phero free but there’s a bottle of MX292 shouting from my bedside shelf! NO, bad diamond, resist 😮 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/18 "2009-01-30T16:48:03Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > Hey Renny, watch out for those Stingrays ☹ > > Had some good hits from MX278 this week at around 4-5 sprays, will post full report shortly. Looks like Wrlpchnx has had some fun with the MX275 as well. > > Totally concur with setting these free in a carefree environment, certainly for MX275 and MX278, **give it ten minutes, make the girls laugh and it’s pretty much game over, winner takes all.** > > Start with MX279 tomorrow. Tonight was supposed to phero free but there’s a bottle of MX292 shouting from my bedside shelf! NO, bad diamond, resist 😮 Perfect advice, there is little room for male pattern blindness with these. Know that you are the man and which direction you are going. If you start wondering if she’s into you or not you’ll miss the boat because of the seeming subtlty. What she’s feeling isn’t subtle! I just need to fill my life with better circumstances to use 'em. LOL ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/19 "2009-01-31T21:53:22Z")
Ok, I’m finally up to date with this test Week 4 – MX 278 Day 1 Saturday. As per usual, one spray to throat (plus the usual 2 pumps then squirt to start, Oh stop it you pervs!) at 10:00am. Nothing, nada, not a hint of self effects. 11:00 Kids bouncing round like battery operated rabbits, very loud and seemingly deaf when asked to quiet down. Curiously, although I feel no different to usual, their loud play does not annoy or even distract me, looking back, I felt slightly more focussed than normal despite having nothing exciting to focus on. 14:00 Refresh with single spray to throat, feel slight need to be more productive but at the same time, to just kick back and chill, bizarre mixture of feelings that seem to centre on me enjoying myself being of increased importance. Kids slightly disobedient and determined to do what they want to do to have fun. Break out the Nintendo Wii and have good family fun for about three hours. Day 2 Sunday. Started with two shots at 10 am and again notice the feeling that my own enjoyment is of the utmost importance. Perhaps this could be named instant selfish git. Whole family seem happy to do their own thing, just generally pottering yet unfocused on any particular task or activity, kids playing in their own rooms, I start cooking lunch, wife intent on getting to the bottom of the ironing basket. All the time I am fighting the urge to go out to the shed and tidy it up. After all, the shed is the man’s domain and I have to got to tidy it up, I want to and need to! I actually find myself thinking that the Sunday lunch can wait, they won’t starve. Given this, decide against refreshing in the afternoon. Day 3 Monday. Completely phero free until leaving for the college session. 3 sprays at 5:00, traffic relatively light but still slow, I can actually feel my mood lifting but not sure whether it is the pheros or the anticipation of inflicting my latest test on the harem. 2 further sprays at 5:30, the focus no longer appears to be centred on self, I feel completely normal almost as though I were phero free. Class passes off relatively normal, in fact positively subdued compared to previous weeks. Don’t think there is much in this mix except it’s apparent ability to elevate the importance of having fun. Sort of motivates you to put your own amusement before others. Day 4 Tuesday Phero free Day 5 Wednesday 4 shots at 5, drive 30 minutes to college and 2 shots when I arrive. Compared to my other class, this one is normally quite well behaved, more serious students, nearly all working in law firms. One of the girls, who has always virtually ignored me up to now started to chat to me about mutual colleagues ( we used to be at the same firm) After a minute or so, she leant forward towards my shoulder and took a deep lungul! Now this girl is 20 years old, blonde, slim and seriously hot, one of those who is always single because guys are scared to approach. As we go to take our seats, she is practically purring, her eyes narrow in that feline way that women have when they feel seriously horny and she stares directly at me for some 20 seconds, holding my gaze in a direct challenge, after which she runs her tongue across her top lip and looks down to her papers. Hit? IOI? What do you think! This has of course been noticed by a couple of the girls and don’t they let me know it, even makes me blush:o. I catch at least three of the girls (two of the usual culprits) giving me long looks when they think no-one is looking, one appears determined to show her cleavage at every opportunity, actually pulling the front of her blouse down at regular intervals, looking absent mindedly towards me when she does so, this is at a distance of 10 feet or so. Sat next to me is Mrs Squirmer from a few weeks ago, she finds out tomorrow whether she still has a job, understandably, being married with two kids and a mortgage, she is somewhat tearful but her spirits brighten noticeably within ten minutes or so. Whether from having something to focus on or pheros, I’m not sure but she does seem eager to talk to me during the coffee break. Day 6 Thursday No-one in the office who I would desire any hits from so no pheros today, just 3 drops A314 ( my usual leave me the f\*\*k alone level) and,( as the wife has emptied my entire bottle of 2xShine), 15mcg TAA. Highly focussed on work, yeah right, no-one comes near me when I’m wearing this much A314 unless they have to, so I spend virtually the entire day on the forum, ebay etc. Impressions overall. I haven’t heard or read anything about MX278 so, unlike MX277 or MX279, I hadn’t the slightest hint of what to expect. It seemed to switch around on me, at low levels, I became aware of an increasing desire to be selfish, once I got up above 3 sprays, I noticed very little in the way of self effects. In summary, a useful social that has far more effects on others than myself,appears to diffuse well, with occasional obvious hits, some subconscious, some less so. Absolutely no apparent effect on the wife and subtle ones with the kids. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/20 "2009-02-18T21:41:56Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > Wrlpchnx got it as a freebie this week 😠 > > He’s had some interesting results with MX275 as well, he seems to be attracting older women (40ish) yet with me it works best on the early to mid 20s. Bit weird, seems to attract the opposite, almost like the Instant Gentleman conundrum ( young guys appear older, older guys appear younger) > > Just finished testing the MX278, will post the report in the next couple of days, suffice to say big IOI from an absolute, rocksolid HB9, 20 year old blond amongst others 😃😃 Hazah! hehe I’m finding **MX277** fairly disappointing as well… Methinks you and I must have similar body chemistries (and I’ve been specifically staying away from reading your testing on any of these MX’s that I haven’t tried yet)… I’m finding it hard to understand why 277 is strongly recommended. my journal describes the first 3 days of testing anyways [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656.md?page=2)