# ammo test pack 7, could this be the holy grail? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656 "2009-01-08T16:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/21 "2009-02-18T22:00:12Z")
I’ve tried really hard but have seen a couple of Renny’s reports, plus yours of course. Just goes to show that we should never make assumptions with this game. had some bad weather here over the past couple of weeks so testing has been minimal on this pack and I’ve been playing with a couple of T and P series toys. back to MX279 this week so be interested to see how you do with MX278. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/22 "2009-02-18T22:04:57Z")
I almost can’t wait to be done with MX277 and move on to MX278… and the week is only half over… Actually… I want to go back to 276… I may not have been getting anything done at work but at least I was happy about it 😛 ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/23 "2009-02-18T22:07:34Z")
> [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > I almost can’t wait to be done with MX277 and move on to MX278… and the week is only half over… > > Actually… I want to go back to 276… I may not have been getting anything done at work but at least I was happy about it 😛 Jasmin hinted that she ‘might’ be able to microbatch some MX275 for me, perhaps if you asked really, really nicely?? ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/24 "2009-02-18T22:10:15Z")
Lol… I actually only used about half of each bottle during my testing… I still got lots of both 275 and 276 (276 has been my star so far… however 275 did have the strongest female reactions) EDIT: Just noticed you have [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/)… let me know what you think of that one when you test it… ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/25 "2009-05-06T12:39:40Z")
Right, with apologies to Jasmin and MHarris for the delay ( been all over the country the past six weeks or so, haven’t even replied to half my PMs yet), I have finally concluded the ammo test pack. The last three sets of results are below. Oh Jasmin, can I have a gallon drum of MX281 please? ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/26 "2009-05-06T12:40:19Z")
Week 5 – MX279 Day 1 Saturday Single spray at 10 am, after a few minutes I feel a desire to have fun ‘as a family’. It doesn’t matter what, as long as we are doing something fun, together. After several more minutes, the wife suggests that we leave the shopping, washing, ironing etc until tomorrow and just do something fun as a family. Weather is atrocious so the beach isn’t an option. We just end up spending the day playing games at home, pillow fights with the kids etc, even cooking dinner together is fun, albeit somewhat messy! Day 2 Sunday Two sprays mid morning and the pattern from yesterday is repeated, albeit somewhat more intensely. Everyone just wants to have fun, together. After a few hours, the kids became somewhat wearing, constantly demanding to wrestle with dad, cuddle with mum etc. We are both hoping that the effects will wear off soon. The major difference I have noted with MX 278 is that, with the 278, I felt a somewhat selfish desire to do what I want, with the 279, the desire is definitely for us to have fun together. Day 3 Monday I intended to keep phero free until leaving for college but decided to use 3 sprays at around 3pm just to gauge responses in the office. After a few minutes, I had the urge to walk up to the bosses office on a whim, then next door to my colleague before walking down to reception. Within 5 minutes, the receptionist was giggling and having fun, the boss ( normally morose and a definite scrooge character) and my colleague ( self centered and abrasive) were in reception, laughing at my jokes. The receptionist forgot where she was and made to sit on my lap to the hilarity of everyone there ( she is late 50s, prim and reserved but with that certain spark!). It was suggested that I had been wearing some sort of magic [pheromone spray](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/), I kept my mouth shut purely because I didn’t want to corrupt my testing! College that night was complete chaos, nothing was learnt, everyone’s ribs ached with laughter and I was definitely the centre of attention, even to the point that it was suggested that I perform a striptease for the benefit of the 8 ladies present. I have little doubt that, had I done so, at least three of them would have joined in! Now, the PUA ‘game’ can be read about anywhere on this forum, Personally, I have always found the ‘laugh them out of the knickers’ approach to be far more effective, this MX could make that ridiculously, if not embarrassingly easy. Day 4 Tuesday Phero free but, despite showering I still noticed residual effects at the office, big smiles from receptionist and the boss very relaxed and happy. Day 5 Wednesday 5 sprays at 5, drive straight to college, trying not to crash through laughter listening to the radio on the way home. I’m expecting big things tonight from this MX but nothing, not a hit, IOI, giggle or smirk. Even the usual suspects are subdued and avoiding my eyes. The room is approx 30 feet by 20 and I sit pretty much centrally but have to walk past most of the class on my way in. Weird, I can normally use high levels of the socials with no problem, 5 sprays of this appears to have sent people the other way, now, they are talking to each other normally, sharing the occasional joke etc but I sit there as if I was naked ,had painted my genitals orange. If you saw the episode of Top Gear when the crew painted ‘Man Love Rules’ and ‘Nascar sucks’ on their cars while in deepest redneck USA, you can imagine how popular I felt It was almost as if I had OD’d on –none and was being ghosted. It was made worse by the fact that I was still getting the giggly self effects so I spent two hours, sat there with a stupid grin on my face but being blanked by everyone, including the tutor who had to make an effort to talk to me! Hell, at least I know what if feels like to be a politician. Impressions overall. UP to 3 or 4 sprays, this is awesome, concentrates your mind and the minds of those around you on having fun TOGETHER. There is no doubt, they will associate you with being the source of the fun. Provided you can be congruent with that, this MX delivers. I would rather go into a club armed just with MX279 than TUTH, IFM and five grand on the hip! I had intended to go back and try four sprays but somehow managed to unscrew the cap on the bottle whilst it was in my daysack and the bottle is now empty. The daysack, on the other hand, has collected 25 phone numbers In the past week and got laid three times. Go over the sweet spot with this one and it bites back, hard! Get the dosage right, be congruent with the signature and you will have fun, lots of fun. Think spaceland with sex. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/27 "2009-05-06T12:40:49Z")
Week 6 – MX280 Day 1 Saturday Single spray at 10 am, No effects whatsoever noted, either on myself or effects on wife or kids. Refresh at 2pm with a second shot, still nothing. Day 2 Sunday Two sprays mid morning and, aside from a very mild increase in my assertiveness ( which could have just been down to waking up with the attitude that I am not going to take any shit today) I once again noticed no effects. Day 3 Monday 3 sprays at 3pm to retest the office effects of last week. Boss his usual, miserable self, colleague self important and receptionist reserved and controlled. Bugger, either I’m missing this one or it’s a placebo. Single refresh at 5pm ready for college but no joy, class giggly and fun but I have seen it louder when I’ve gone in phero free. Usual trip home with test subject but her body language all wrong, legs angled away, arms crossed, looking straight ahead. Likewise, I feel no self effects and, whilst I’m never exactly the quiet wallflower, I really couldn’t be bothered to put any effort in. Day 4 Tuesday Phero free , attitudes at work identical to yesterday when I wore 3 sprays, going to go for a big signature tomorrow but suspect little effects. Day 5 Wednesday 5 sprays at 8am on the way to work, nothing, nada, zip, sweet FA. Further 5 at 5pm for college and the only interest is from the college cat who climbs my leg to sit on my shoulder. Impressions overall. Either I have completely and utterly lost all my observation skills or this is a bottle of game scented perfumers alcohol. There has been no discernible effects from this MX whatsoever and the bottle is now empty after just four testing days. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/28 "2009-05-06T12:41:49Z")
Week 7 – MX281 Day 1 Saturday Single spray at 10 am, after a couple of minutes I become aware of my chest tightening in anticipation. Testing jitters or self effect? After a few more minutes, the tightening passes and I can almost feel the tension dropping from my shoulders. Promising start. Wife comes into the room having just woken up, kids are watching TV and, in a matter of minutes, I see her relax, unwind and a smile spreads across her face. I think this is going to be a good one! Over the next few hours I don’t see any of the focused fun that I did with the MX278 and MX279 nor the inane silliness that I saw with the MX275. This is more a slow burn chill out. Seems to effect everyone in the same way. Looking good. Day 2 Sunday Two sprays mid morning and we all just slob out for an hour or so over a proper family breakfast. Come lunchtime, we have no milk but the wife can’t be bothered to get dressed and the kids are so chilled out. I nip to the local supermarket for a few bits and just decide to drift around for a few minutes, stopping next to likely candidates in the aisles and so on. No major ‘here’s my number, call me’ hits but plenty of sideways glances, faltering steps and the like from Caucasian women aged 16 - 50. Go to the checkout and the little old lady in front of me fumbles and drops something, I pick it up and get the five minute talk about her family and shown the picture of her granddaughter who has split with her boyfriend and could do with a kind man like me. I point out that I am wearing a wedding band and she says ‘ see, all the best ones are taken or gay!’ then walks away with her shopping in the trolley, completely blocking the lady ( who I had previously stood next to) walking down from another checkout. I shoot her a grin, she smiles and shrugs before making a point of looking me up and down and walking away. Sod’s law, when I get to my car, there she is, parked next to me and taking a long time to load her two bags into the car. I make a comment about her stalking me to which she replies ‘ can you blame me, damn shame we’re both married’. You know what, I like this MX! Day 3 Monday Go into work, get laid off. 3 sprays on so don’t really care, plus I hate the job anyway. College a blast, although I had to initiate the banter/flirtation, virtually everything I threw at the girls came back twofold. Whilst still being a social mix, there’s definitely more of a sexy undertone to this one, subtle but it’s there if you can work it. MX275 is in danger of being displaced as my favourite out of this pack. Day 4 Tuesday Phero free, at home alone (pulls big sad face) so nothing to report Day 5 Wednesday 3 sprays in morning and just drift around town for a couple of hours, browsing shops etc, small hits are frequent, giving the impression of easy ‘open’ opportunities everywhere should the fancy take me. Subtle glances, girls checking out the big three ( hands, chest , backside) when they think I’m not looking, it’s amazing how often women do this in clothing stores and forget that there are things called mirrors. That evening, I suspect that this MX won’t need too much topping up so single refresh at 5pm. The cycle continues at college with some indications of renewed interest from a couple of the girls in their late 20s/early 30s who had previously cooled off somewhat. Impressions overall. Absolutely love MX281, it’s far more in tune with my natural persona than anything else I have found. If MX279 is spaceland with added sex, this is [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) with a pot of chocolate spread and a paintbrush, we’re talking Kama Sutra here, not missionary position. To summarise the whole pack from my perspective ( please remember, this is only my findings, they differ significantly from other peoples. Renny for instance loved MX280 which I hated and wrlpchnx loved MX276 which I found indifferent.) So much of this depends on your character. MX275 is an insanely funny, good time MX, if you like Buggles doing Video killed the Radio Star, you’ll love this in your armoury. MX276 is MX275 without the slight sexy undertone, funny, happy but nothing remotely dark about it. MX277 for me attracts children, wives and cats, it doesn’t have the same punch as MX275. MX278 is the sound of the annoying guy on the tube (subway) listening to your favourite song on his Ipod ( you can’t help sing along but resent him all the same), MX279 is a late night drunken karaoke bar with 40 of you singing Hey Jude, however, be wary of having one too many, it will get messy MX280 is the sound of tumbleweeds blowing down the centre of Dodge. MX281 is Bill Withers singing Lovely Day while you bathe in a vat of warmed honey and have your temples massaged by Halle Berry. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/29 "2009-05-06T13:31:38Z")
I remember enjoying MX279 as well Both MX280 and MX281 have been difficult for me. I still gotta say the only realy homerun in this pack (the only one that I would buy again) is MX276. I’m actually not sure what I’ll do when my LTR gets into a mood once my supply of MX276 is gone ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/30 "2009-05-13T10:49:25Z")
Right back when I was testing MX278, one of the college girls (25yo, 5’6"120 lbs or so and around 7.8/10) was constantly flashing her cleavage at me. Last week was a revision/study group and we somehow ended up paired together, not my doing!! I had wanted to retest some of this pack and had 4 sprays MX281 around 30 minutes before the class. Anyway, blanked by the miserable cow in the class who can’t stand me, two other girls quite chatty and a few minor IOIs but after 5 minutes my study partner was all over me like a rash, big eyes, licking the top lip, asking questions and leaning over the book, she waas wearing a smart suit with mini skirt and stockings, this much was quite blatantly displayed in my direction . I point out that this was before my separation and this girl has a boyfriend. Just as a test, I negged her by saying that she was all bluff and would never be unfaithful to her man,then initiated a bit of kino, hand on thigh etc which was welcomed and reciprocated, she gave me her number and told me to call her bluff 😮. This resulted in three texts that evening, the contents of which were ‘interesting’ and I’ve just asked for a lift back tonight, purely in the name of research of course… the interesting thing is that, as the week has progressed, although she is keen to progress matters with me, the guilt about the boyfriend has set in ( out of my phero cloud of course) Been testing [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) solo this week, scheduled for 45mcg today, reckon that should establish some rapport and comfort. Now let’s see if the phero’s work their magic tonight. I’m not going to let anything happen, I’m not ready for anything yet and would hate for her or her man to get hurt in any way, this is purely an exercise in the power of putatives. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/31 "2009-05-13T15:31:19Z")
Because of this post I am going to confirm the MX275 @ 5 shots today @ lunch subway… eat fresh… Then MX281@ 3sprays tomarrow ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/32 "2009-05-14T16:00:42Z")
5 sprays @ 23 seems high I remember getting good results with MX275 at around 2.5 sprays Had some good results with MX279 + A314 over the weekend Try that combo out if you have any left Diamond (the more I think about it the more it seems like I was getting some pretty heavy hits) ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656/33 "2009-05-14T16:31:34Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > I’m not going to let anything happen, I’m not ready for anything yet and would hate for her or her man to get hurt in any way, **this is purely an exercise in the power of putatives**. I must say, that’s a new one. 😃 Enjoy yourself. Can’t wait to read about it. Have you tested P86 yet? I find that P86 and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) have real symmetry and a synchronous nature. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-7-could-this-be-the-holy-grail/24656.md?page=1)